Just going through some old tapes. I post clips as I find them. Nobody is safe when I do this. 
http://www.zshare.net/audio/730430819fee93a8/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/730430819fee93a8/
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Another Radio show goofs on Paul and Al on the air - Listen to it now
- Thread starter Skynet74
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You've heard of O&A. Well here's O&A standing for Overpaid and Overrated. I wonder how long HJY will remain low-brow in the morning. I mean, sooner or later the demographics are going to take their toll. They were, at one time, cutting edge and funny. Now they're neither. Of course they know it but have no choice but to give Providence's audience for this kind of radio what they expect but if they weren't doing what they do they would be goofing on anyone else who does it. Sooner or later Clear Channel will find a way to show them the door and they'll end up in Northern New England. If it takes time to find another gig they'll podcast in the meantime. Gawd does this market need some fresh blood.
Fresh blood indeed. Keep a loaf of bread on your counter for 6 months. That is how stale Rhode Island Radio has become. However if it was good radio at least it could still be tolerable. But did you hear that clip I just posted? When you have a market full of that crap it's amazing that people don't throw their radios in the trash can. I guess expectations must be really low around here. There is no other reason that garbage could possibly get ratings.
Dopey and Anthony aren't that much different than Paul and Al. The only difference is that O&A somehow got lucky and have had a bit more success.
People in Rhode Island radio really tend to limit their chances of growing into anything more than just a local personality. It is because they become so stuck on doing shows that are very regional specific. 95 percent of Paul and Al's show is playing up how they are from Rhode Island. Often times they'll do goofy impressions of people from Rhode Island. Other times they'll goof on Rhode Island politicians. In my opinion there is way to much Rhode Island built into their show. It's a sure fire way to ensure that your career never goes anywhere outside this market. Howie Carr from Boston does the same damn thing. That is why his show failed miserably in syndication.
If you want your career to go further than just being a small town DJ, than you really need to stop focusing on a 30 mile area for all your show material. You limit yourself when you do that and you sound like an amateur. God forbid you get fired and you need to get a job in another city. If your whole career is based on things in Rhode Island, that is going to be some train wreck that happens when you start doing your new show somewhere else. You better start learning how to make your show funny for everyone. Not just funny to the people in 39 towns.
Dopey and Anthony aren't that much different than Paul and Al. The only difference is that O&A somehow got lucky and have had a bit more success.
People in Rhode Island radio really tend to limit their chances of growing into anything more than just a local personality. It is because they become so stuck on doing shows that are very regional specific. 95 percent of Paul and Al's show is playing up how they are from Rhode Island. Often times they'll do goofy impressions of people from Rhode Island. Other times they'll goof on Rhode Island politicians. In my opinion there is way to much Rhode Island built into their show. It's a sure fire way to ensure that your career never goes anywhere outside this market. Howie Carr from Boston does the same damn thing. That is why his show failed miserably in syndication.
If you want your career to go further than just being a small town DJ, than you really need to stop focusing on a 30 mile area for all your show material. You limit yourself when you do that and you sound like an amateur. God forbid you get fired and you need to get a job in another city. If your whole career is based on things in Rhode Island, that is going to be some train wreck that happens when you start doing your new show somewhere else. You better start learning how to make your show funny for everyone. Not just funny to the people in 39 towns.
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Numo said:
When I hear the term "premium choice" I think of dog food.
Numo said:
I have no problem with programming coming off the satellite as long as it's good programming. I couldn't care less if the show originates from an island 12,000 miles away. I judge a show according to how funny it is. Not according to what town the microphone is in. Why would the location even matter to anyone? I've never once said that my favorite morning show would be much funnier if they were located on my street.
Rhode Island is a pretty isolated place as it is. When you have Boston stations that get pretty good coverage in most of Rhode Island, being very local just may be the way that you keep your audience. But Rhode Island radio is very cookie-cutter, especially with the Clear Channel stations. It's very sad. It's one thing to be consistent, but it's another thing to be stale. 94HJY is very stale. They could be consistent and still freshen things up every so often, whether it's talent, music presentation, or something, but they don't. I'm surprised they didn't have Quinn and Cantera pick up either the morning or afternoon drive slot when they had them. In a way, PRO-FM does it right, even though they're an AC-skewing top 40 station, they at least have the occasional shake-up to keep things interesting without loosing too much quality. The Clear Channel stations have lost quality--it's stale, cookie-cutter and they program to the most common denominator. WBRU and WCTK may be the two most interesting music stations at the moment, and may be the only two for the forseeable future.
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HJY's rationale for not freshening anything up is that why should they screw with what works. Problem is it isn't going to keep working. They need to get a little more alt and I don't mean these unknown groups but those that are making noise in the music world. It's ROCK. It doesn't matter if it sounds too BRU. As far as the staff, creepy men in their fifties playing Disturbed and pretending they live the same lifestyle as their listeners. And the ones on the air that are in the right demo really don't belong at a station like HJY but then we use notable people who have worked there in the past as benchmarks and we really shouldn't considering the people getting on the air today and the reasons they get on the air.
I'm glad they never went with Quinn & Cantara. They were horribile, couldn't stand hearing the same dribble every night from them. P & A have been lacking in the originality dept. for some time now I agree with many of you. I still think they are pulling in decent numbers in the morning though. They have to be, they would be cut if not. I think a true test is coming this year with PPM. Once those first few sets of numbers come out. We'll see if there will be any changes.
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Skynet74 said:
What I meant was when it comes to stations that have any kind of a history, we tend to judge what they sound like now in relation to that history. HJY used to more particular about who they put on the air. As far as Paul and Al I would do exactly what they're doing in spite of my feeling they are stale. Take the money as long as Clear Channel is willing to pay it. They exist separately from the format anyway so their audience probably doesn't care if they're planing Van Halen or Puddle Of Mud.
Yeah I see what you are saying. What year did Paul and Al start their show on HJY? From what I remember it was 1989 (give or take a year). That's a long time for a morning show to last on one station. It's really amazing that they are still there. Especially considering the company that owns the station. I've just got to believe that a Clear Channel collapse will effect them sometime in the not to distant future. P & A are like the luckiest guys at the Poker table. But sooner or later the luck always runs out.
I believe Paul and Al started in 1990 at HJY, but they were paired together in Alabama before that. Also, Charles has been in afternoon drive since 1996. I think it's only a matter of time before big changes are made. Apart from drive time, lately HJY has been sounding like a jukebox at a billiard hall.
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While Paul and Al have entertainment value, I find it shocking that people are complaining about a local morning show. We all know what the alternative is; Premium Choice crap or something piped in from another city. With the exception of Howard Stern, I will take local over non-local any day of the week.
I meant that it is shocking that a LOCAL show - one that has 20 years in the market and has had a good deal of success - would be attacked. In this day, non-local, cookie-cutter garbage deserves a great deal more criticism. Most would agree that Paul and Al are better than what is on Coast, for example.
ScottBurns said:
Don't be so shocked. The show isn't that good. Like I said last week... When your market is flooded with shows that suck, people will just listen to the show that sucks the least. I've already made my opinion clear about LOCAL radio too. Most people don't care if a broadcast originates in Siberia! They only care about being entertained. Why would a LOCAL show not be attacked if it sucks? Seriously. What is the logic there? Why does it matter if it's Local or National? Bad radio is bad radio and good radio is good radio. It doesn't matter where it comes from. Do you think it's OK to attack someone like Rush Limbaugh because the show is National, but it's not OK to attack someone like Paul and Al or Dan Yorke? With all due respect, I just don't get that logic at all. It's either good radio or it isn't. Where it comes from is irrelevant.
Skynet, perhaps I should have qualified my remarks a bit more. I was shocked that a QUALITY (in my opinion) local show would be the recipient of so much criticism. I agree with most of your points. However, we disagree on the quality of the Paul and Al show. In addition, my main point is that local content is so endangered that it needs to be protected where possible. The bottom line is that WHJY is one of the last-standing Clear Channel stations that are completely local (despite the various voice-tracked shifts). Heck, 'HJY has MORE local content than does Z100/New York. The day that 'HJY goes Premium Choice will be the saddest day in my life of radio fan-dom.
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