Network 23 said:
So the shows on wnsr are brokered??? If so, that explains ALOT.
I wonder if Mr. President of Southern Wabash Communications (or whatever it was) would like to comment...LOL!
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Biddle to WNSR; Plaster signs new deal; Blake Fulton a sales rep...
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So the shows on wnsr are brokered??? If so, that explains ALOT.
I wonder if Mr. President of Southern Wabash Communications (or whatever it was) would like to comment...LOL!
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ROCKO11
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To you Mr. President, (Mr. Bell)
A.Your the one that has all your facts WRONG about me and what I own. Go to the FCC CDBS database and view the lattest application. I have 60% Contoling Stock of my company, which puts me UPFRONT.
B. In 2000, a man came in my station claiming to be Mr. Kolb's father. He said his son owned your station. He was quite RUDE and wanted to buy this station. He started to get pushy with me, so I asked him to leave. That is WHY I take a dim look at you people.
C. My corporate records reflect what I'm saying.....end of discussion!
Mr. Bailey, a.k.a. Rocko11:
I appreciate your taking the time to present the percentages of ownership of the shareholders of WNSR. By virtue of his stock, Mr. Kolb is indeed an owner of WNSR.
Elsewhere on this board, you purport to be an owner of WMRO. As in Mr. Kolb’s case, with regard to WNSR, you, too, do not hold a majority interest in WMRO. But, you still choose to call yourself an owner. However, under the guise of “setting the record straight”, you characterize Jeff’s just and legal ownership as “lying to the public”.
It seems to me that the respective ownership interests, Mr. Kolb’s and yours, actually mirror one another; Neither is a majority. Yet, you both maintain an interest in a broadcast property, and are entitled to use of the term “owner”.
Nonetheless, when it comes to the definition of ownership, the percentage of stock is only relevant when it meets your goals to enhance your own (self-) image and, furthermore, to discredit and harm another individual’s reputation. The latter is unacceptable.
As to your comments about our corporation's officers, I am somewhat confused. To the best of my knowledge, individually or corporately, we have never had any contact whatsoever. And, quite frankly, considering your propensity for presenting your personal opinions as fact, I hope that we never will.
The foregoing notwithstanding, if you have a factual issue with our company, I would be most willing to discuss it. You are welcome to call me at anytime. On the other hand, considering the originating source, and your choice of venue, I suspect that your remarks are much ado about nothing.
In closing, may I offer a personal observation to you? I have to wonder how you would react if you read a variety of personal attacks on you, your family, and/or "your" daytimer in Gallatin? Presumably, you would find such comments as disconcerting as I have found yours to be. Additionally, to what degree would such "opinions" be tolerated? With respect to same, our tolerance is rather brief.
President, Southern Wabash Communications Corporation
A.Your the one that has all your facts WRONG about me and what I own. Go to the FCC CDBS database and view the lattest application. I have 60% Contoling Stock of my company, which puts me UPFRONT.
B. In 2000, a man came in my station claiming to be Mr. Kolb's father. He said his son owned your station. He was quite RUDE and wanted to buy this station. He started to get pushy with me, so I asked him to leave. That is WHY I take a dim look at you people.
C. My corporate records reflect what I'm saying.....end of discussion!
Mr. Bailey, a.k.a. Rocko11:
I appreciate your taking the time to present the percentages of ownership of the shareholders of WNSR. By virtue of his stock, Mr. Kolb is indeed an owner of WNSR.
Elsewhere on this board, you purport to be an owner of WMRO. As in Mr. Kolb’s case, with regard to WNSR, you, too, do not hold a majority interest in WMRO. But, you still choose to call yourself an owner. However, under the guise of “setting the record straight”, you characterize Jeff’s just and legal ownership as “lying to the public”.
It seems to me that the respective ownership interests, Mr. Kolb’s and yours, actually mirror one another; Neither is a majority. Yet, you both maintain an interest in a broadcast property, and are entitled to use of the term “owner”.
Nonetheless, when it comes to the definition of ownership, the percentage of stock is only relevant when it meets your goals to enhance your own (self-) image and, furthermore, to discredit and harm another individual’s reputation. The latter is unacceptable.
As to your comments about our corporation's officers, I am somewhat confused. To the best of my knowledge, individually or corporately, we have never had any contact whatsoever. And, quite frankly, considering your propensity for presenting your personal opinions as fact, I hope that we never will.
The foregoing notwithstanding, if you have a factual issue with our company, I would be most willing to discuss it. You are welcome to call me at anytime. On the other hand, considering the originating source, and your choice of venue, I suspect that your remarks are much ado about nothing.
In closing, may I offer a personal observation to you? I have to wonder how you would react if you read a variety of personal attacks on you, your family, and/or "your" daytimer in Gallatin? Presumably, you would find such comments as disconcerting as I have found yours to be. Additionally, to what degree would such "opinions" be tolerated? With respect to same, our tolerance is rather brief.
President, Southern Wabash Communications Corporation
Can anyone answer me or does no one know: Are the shows on wnsr brokered???
Mr. President of Wabash Communications??? (Love the title, btw)
Mr. President of Wabash Communications??? (Love the title, btw)
Just had to chime in.The sentiment seems to be that BF has sunk into being a "lowly" account rep. I am aware that the sales slugs are the Rodney Dangerfield's of the organization from the on-air perspective. Respect goes both ways and having been on both sides of the force, I respect the air personalities, tech, business, traffic, promo, programming et al...and yes, the "dark" side (sales)...In theory it is a mutally co-dependant relationship. Chicken and the egg...
Welcome to the dark side, BF. Nothing wrong with that...and, if you excel...the paycheck goes with it. Ruminate on this one...sales is the only side of this business where you are rewarded in direct relationship to the result you achieve. Yes I'm aware of TSL bonuses...are they really proportional...or a financial "atta boy"? I've never met a promotion director who got a CUME bonus. How can the programmer and on-air staff keep 'em if promo doesn't get 'em? Does a traffic person get extra cash for creative log massaging and clearing revenue. Does the biz dept get extra if collections are good? Are any "bonuses" proportional?
As it turns out...you sell more...you get more $$....you sell even more...you get even more...it is proportional. The best of the dark side...and there is "talent" in sales...gets the job done AND enjoys the reward.
What a difference a year makes may emerge in the paycheck....BF may very well wind up laughing...all the way to the bank
Chime in on WNSR: speaking for myself...simply have to respect local ownership. Regardless of the percentages. I watched a bit of the FCC hearings on (gasp) TV and the overall sentiment I heard is that it's a shame broadcasting has moved from Main Street to Wall Street. For all the Clear Channel and Cumulus bashing I read here, I would think this group mirrors that sentiment.
Welcome to the dark side, BF. Nothing wrong with that...and, if you excel...the paycheck goes with it. Ruminate on this one...sales is the only side of this business where you are rewarded in direct relationship to the result you achieve. Yes I'm aware of TSL bonuses...are they really proportional...or a financial "atta boy"? I've never met a promotion director who got a CUME bonus. How can the programmer and on-air staff keep 'em if promo doesn't get 'em? Does a traffic person get extra cash for creative log massaging and clearing revenue. Does the biz dept get extra if collections are good? Are any "bonuses" proportional?
As it turns out...you sell more...you get more $$....you sell even more...you get even more...it is proportional. The best of the dark side...and there is "talent" in sales...gets the job done AND enjoys the reward.
What a difference a year makes may emerge in the paycheck....BF may very well wind up laughing...all the way to the bank
Chime in on WNSR: speaking for myself...simply have to respect local ownership. Regardless of the percentages. I watched a bit of the FCC hearings on (gasp) TV and the overall sentiment I heard is that it's a shame broadcasting has moved from Main Street to Wall Street. For all the Clear Channel and Cumulus bashing I read here, I would think this group mirrors that sentiment.
I doubt that the note is from WNSR's Bell. He doesn't seem like the type to read boards. Maybe someone told him about it. Who knows. This is what the writer meant about WMRO. From the FCC site: WILLIAM E BAILEY, GALLATIN, TN 40.00%; SANDRA E BAILEY, GALLATIN, TN 30%;TIMOTHY SCOTT BAILEY, GALLATIN, TN 30.00. No individual majority there.
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ROCKO11
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Big Time Engineer,
That's all changed. The records from FCC and the Secretary of State on the Corporation have changed. I have majority of the stock, 60%. There is a reason why I had that set up the way I did for personal reasons that I do not want to discuss here. If you have questions, you may email me in private. Lash who is on this board knows what I'm talking about!
If you look at the application I filed on 10/16/06 in the FCC's CDBS database, you will see the changes I made.
Oh I do agree that was probably not Randy. I have an idea who it was.
That's all changed. The records from FCC and the Secretary of State on the Corporation have changed. I have majority of the stock, 60%. There is a reason why I had that set up the way I did for personal reasons that I do not want to discuss here. If you have questions, you may email me in private. Lash who is on this board knows what I'm talking about!
If you look at the application I filed on 10/16/06 in the FCC's CDBS database, you will see the changes I made.
Oh I do agree that was probably not Randy. I have an idea who it was.
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ROCKO11
Guest
Mistake here, I filed that application with the commission on 10/18/06.
Individauls who own stations (and other businesses) do this kind of thing with family members. It's done all the time. I have a friend that owns a funeral home business, but the actual business (accordding to Secretary of State records) is in his daughter's name.
Anyone that owns 51% of the voting stock or more is the actual owner and has controling interest.
R
Individauls who own stations (and other businesses) do this kind of thing with family members. It's done all the time. I have a friend that owns a funeral home business, but the actual business (accordding to Secretary of State records) is in his daughter's name.
Anyone that owns 51% of the voting stock or more is the actual owner and has controling interest.
R
That's all changed. The records from FCC and the Secretary of State on the Corporation have changed. (I) have majority of the stock, 60%. There is a reason why (I) had that set up the way (I) did for personal reasons that (I) do not want to discuss here. If you have questions, you may email me in private. Lash who is on this board knows what (I)'m talking about!
If you look at the application (I) filed on 10/16/06 in the FCC's CDBS database, you will see the changes (I) made.
Oh (I) do agree that was probably not Randy. (I) have an idea who it was.
(I),
Seems to me this is a bunch of small station bickering egos gone out of control and a waste of good english and time. If you brag about you own all this stuff and material things, why don't you go out and sell some time and make some money other than wasting it here.
If you look at the application (I) filed on 10/16/06 in the FCC's CDBS database, you will see the changes (I) made.
Oh (I) do agree that was probably not Randy. (I) have an idea who it was.
(I),
Seems to me this is a bunch of small station bickering egos gone out of control and a waste of good english and time. If you brag about you own all this stuff and material things, why don't you go out and sell some time and make some money other than wasting it here.
Maybe some on this board should check out the North Florida board pertaining to Richard (Dick) Plessinger's
passing away and his character, kindness and huge financial success that virtually was unknown except by those who
were close to him. Might make lots of people realize it's Christmas, life's short and no one cares how much you
own of anything when you have passed on. I really enjoy unwinding on RI, but sorry guys, having owned 100kw signals
and being rewarded by CC and others paying "more multiples than I deserve*," I don't see the real merit of
claiming ownership of an AM station as the eighth wonder of the world or being worth beating up on each other as
a way to end 2006 or celebrate the holidays. It is sort of entertaining, though. I quess. Merry Christmas and
Happy New Year lash, rock, etc.
Let's hope all of us are remembered they way "Mr. P" was.
*an unauthorized paraphrase of Dave Ramsey.
passing away and his character, kindness and huge financial success that virtually was unknown except by those who
were close to him. Might make lots of people realize it's Christmas, life's short and no one cares how much you
own of anything when you have passed on. I really enjoy unwinding on RI, but sorry guys, having owned 100kw signals
and being rewarded by CC and others paying "more multiples than I deserve*," I don't see the real merit of
claiming ownership of an AM station as the eighth wonder of the world or being worth beating up on each other as
a way to end 2006 or celebrate the holidays. It is sort of entertaining, though. I quess. Merry Christmas and
Happy New Year lash, rock, etc.
Let's hope all of us are remembered they way "Mr. P" was.
*an unauthorized paraphrase of Dave Ramsey.
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ROCKO11
Guest
Hey RadioKidd,
I agree with you! Right now, it's slow, and not much going on. I'm just here getting a good laugh out of all of this. If you get to know me, some things I say you can't take seriously sometimes. My wife learned that the hard way before we got married. In other words, I can be a smart ***! But, I'm also one that sticks to facts, and I won't say anything, unless I can back it up those facts.
Most small station independent owners, operators and management get along, with some exceptions. I've been in this wacky business 30 years, and I've seen it all.
When the new year kicks in, I won't have time to waste here. Too busy with my own facility and I have two other projects at other stations I've got to work on.
Well take care, have a Merry Xmas and Happy New Year......I'm off of here for now, and probably for a good while.
When I was not on this board, I loved the way I was talked about, especially when I had an ad on the TAB Board looking for a part-time sales person. This person posting stuff about me didn't understand that I had to word the ad that way, due to all you get is people wanting on-air shifts, and I didn't need any of that. I wanted just to stop all the unnecessary phone calls and emails on the front end. One guy got my cell number and bugged me to death at night, especially calling me and distirbing me and wife at 11 PM at night. WHEW! Well..........I'm gone for now.
Rocko
(The name Rocko. This was the name of my beloved Labrador Retriever who passed away on January 4 of this year, I'm sorry, but I'm one that pet owner that gets attached to his dogs. I have two of them now driving me crazy.)
I agree with you! Right now, it's slow, and not much going on. I'm just here getting a good laugh out of all of this. If you get to know me, some things I say you can't take seriously sometimes. My wife learned that the hard way before we got married. In other words, I can be a smart ***! But, I'm also one that sticks to facts, and I won't say anything, unless I can back it up those facts.
Most small station independent owners, operators and management get along, with some exceptions. I've been in this wacky business 30 years, and I've seen it all.
When the new year kicks in, I won't have time to waste here. Too busy with my own facility and I have two other projects at other stations I've got to work on.
Well take care, have a Merry Xmas and Happy New Year......I'm off of here for now, and probably for a good while.
When I was not on this board, I loved the way I was talked about, especially when I had an ad on the TAB Board looking for a part-time sales person. This person posting stuff about me didn't understand that I had to word the ad that way, due to all you get is people wanting on-air shifts, and I didn't need any of that. I wanted just to stop all the unnecessary phone calls and emails on the front end. One guy got my cell number and bugged me to death at night, especially calling me and distirbing me and wife at 11 PM at night. WHEW! Well..........I'm gone for now.
Rocko
(The name Rocko. This was the name of my beloved Labrador Retriever who passed away on January 4 of this year, I'm sorry, but I'm one that pet owner that gets attached to his dogs. I have two of them now driving me crazy.)
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