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Bonneville may swap the sound and then no more sound

hotpatrick2004

hotpatrick2004

Wonder if this will happen???It hasn't been very long since they have been on the air what 6 months or so hmmm well it could in the end become a news/talk but we shall see.

Opinions guys and gals

Hotpatrick out
 
A little hoss-trading as no one has the bucks to buy. Not one of the best signals, but Nurse Jeff and I note with interest their CP to move the tower, lower the height and bump up the power. Theoretical coverage looks a tad better. Bonneville's one el Lay FM could parlay into several FMs in another market.
 
hotpatrick2004 said:
Wonder if this will happen???It hasn't been very long since they have been on the air what 6 months or so hmmm well it could in the end become a news/talk but we shall see.

Opinions guys and gals

Hotpatrick out
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Source?

Or is this the same type of speculation you hate when David Eduardo does it?

Thread title is somewhat misleading.

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hamNcheese said:
Source?

Or is this the same type of speculation you hate when David Eduardo does it?

Thread title is somewhat misleading.

:(
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Well, it was mentioned as a possibility in TRI this morning. It's free to subscribe, and it's designed to help spur conversation on these boards, you know?
 
Kent said:
hamNcheese said:
Source?

Or is this the same type of speculation you hate when David Eduardo does it?

Thread title is somewhat misleading.

:(
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Well, it was mentioned as a possibility in TRI this morning. It's free to subscribe, and it's designed to help spur conversation on these boards, you know?
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Not only mentioned but was the top story. Got picked up by DRCTV.com as well.

The scenario he laid out in his piece isn't going to happen. Either Clear Channel or CBS swapping to get a 6th FM in L.A.? Certainly not under an Obama administration and I see no way around the restriction.

The only way to get KNX or KFWB on FM would be to dump a CBS format for one of them or to sell the intellectual property of KNX or KFWB to Bonneville. I don't see any of that happening.

I think the most interesting rumor is in New York City where Emmis would lease to sell it's AAA FM station to ABC/Disney where they'd place the ESPN format on FM. I could see that happening to Movin 93.9 in Los Angeles if that happens.
 
Then the following day they say on radio info that bonneville is not actively pursueing a swap and they really like the aaa format and they know it takes time to build an audience so kinda weird one day its on next day the sound remains the same lol
 
hotpatrick2004 said:
Then the following day they say on radio info that bonneville is not actively pursueing a swap and they really like the aaa format and they know it takes time to build an audience so kinda weird one day its on next day the sound remains the same lol
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Yes, Tom Taylor totally retracted his story which was too far out to ever believe. As for AAA, won't ever work in Los Angeles which I posted on day 1 of the format.
 
Then why did bonneville go with triple a if it will never work in la???

Entravision sticks with indie 1031 and the sound gets better numbers then they do so there must be a reason.
 
hotpatrick2004 said:
Then why did bonneville go with triple a if it will never work in la???

Entravision sticks with indie 1031 and the sound gets better numbers then they do so there must be a reason.
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You obviously didn't read the blurb from LAObserved.com about Indie. It has no numbers and is a total loser. As for Bonneville, I give the format less than 1 year before they kill it off. AAA doesn't work and will never work in this town. The numbers have already proved that. Not that we didn't expect what they're getting.
 
Many of us on here, predicted that Bonneville would have a very tough time with AAA in this market.

L.A. is a different animal then most other markets, on top of the fact that The Sound just doesn't sound that good.

It is an average sounding station at best, and frankly, quite boring to listen to. Why they didn't just clone KFOG up in the Bay is beyond me. Guess Bonneville thought they can do the format "better".
 
Sure, there was talk today that Bonneville doesnt want to leave LA. But he got that signal at a price unlike anyone has seen in years, and he knows it.

Bruce is a smart man with blocks of gold in his basement. He has a bigger plan, I just think the train jumped off the track too early.

Baltimore is a great compliment to his DC cluster. I could easily see them swap out for Baltimore and possibly an additional FM in DC.
 
hotpatrick2004 said:
Then why did bonneville go with triple a if it will never work in la???

Entravision sticks with indie 1031 and the sound gets better numbers then they do so there must be a reason.
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Indie is a very limited signal. It gets a much higher share in the small area of the LA market it does cover than The Sound does in the total market.

Bonneville just did not seem to realize that the pool for AAA is even smaller than 11 years ago when KSCA went away... there is just not much of an audience base.
 
airpab said:
It is an average sounding station at best, and frankly, quite boring to listen to. Why they didn't just clone KFOG up in the Bay is beyond me. Guess Bonneville thought they can do the format "better".
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A format that works in SF is not a good example. As Glenn has said several times, the ethnicity of LA makes the entire market very different.
 
hotpatrick2004 said:
Then why did bonneville go with triple a if it will never work in la???

Entravision sticks with indie 1031 and the sound gets better numbers then they do so there must be a reason.
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Hell, Cal State Northridge gets better numbers than Indie. Indie has the worst signal patterns, always have and always will. Indie pulls bad numbers not because of their programming, it is because no one can consistently hear it. The Sound will do well in the long run. What EL LAY needs, is an Active Rocker!!! Or Active Talker like mine. Email me if you want to know what my new format Active Talk is...
 
kentuckymedia said:
Sure, there was talk today that Bonneville doesnt want to leave LA. But he got that signal at a price unlike anyone has seen in years, and he knows it.

Bruce is a smart man with blocks of gold in his basement. He has a bigger plan, I just think the train jumped off the track too early.

Baltimore is a great compliment to his DC cluster. I could easily see them swap out for Baltimore and possibly an additional FM in DC.
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From who? Clear Channel and CBS can't do a straight swap for Los Angeles as they already have the max allowed in FM's and that isn't going to change. There's nobody to swap with for DC or Baltimore.
 
"slightly higher?"

That's hardly a reason for Indie to bail on an established format it's been growing for years, because some other station has "slightly" higher cume.

And cloning KFOG is a bad idea. LA isn't SF, and KFOG's version of AAA is actually somewhat blander than The Sound's programming. Those who complain about the amount of classic rock on the Sound would be quite unhappy with KFOG. More Cars, Supertramp, and such acts, and less current and recurrent AAA. And KFOG still plays their fair share of those Goo Goo Dolls records you've been burnt out on by the Hot AC stations too.

I respect KFOG's jocks and heritage, but it's not exactly a model of forward thinking in AAA.
 
JimmyJames said:
"slightly higher?"

That's hardly a reason for Indie to bail on an established format it's been growing for years, because some other station has "slightly" higher cume.

And cloning KFOG is a bad idea. LA isn't SF, and KFOG's version of AAA is actually somewhat blander than The Sound's programming. Those who complain about the amount of classic rock on the Sound would be quite unhappy with KFOG. More Cars, Supertramp, and such acts, and less current and recurrent AAA. And KFOG still plays their fair share of those Goo Goo Dolls records you've been burnt out on by the Hot AC stations too.

I respect KFOG's jocks and heritage, but it's not exactly a model of forward thinking in AAA.
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I think you need to look at the November PPM ratings for Indie that came out today. Growing certainly isn't a word to associate with the station.

Keith Naftaly thought he could clone a SF station and make it an L.A. station. That didn't work either and he lasted two years. Why do people try to compare what works in SF and think it will work here? It won't. Even looking at this past election, if you look how San Francisco voted vs. Los Angeles, it was close to the difference between night and day. That is the difference between the two cities.
 
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