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Boston... Only Top 10 Market with No Full-Power Minority FMs
- Thread starter Gregg
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Jimmy128 said:
Nonsense. The only thing it "proves" is that there are a bunch of lawbreakers running "black" pirate stations. They have no way of knowing how many people (if any) are listening.
Once again, because it appears you don't get it: If running this format in this market could make money, a licensed station would be all over it like a cheap suit. Radio is a BUSINESS.
And, a bit of history: The Boston market has always been a hard sell for R&B music, going back to the days of the power-house top-40 stations like WRKO and WMEX. Lots of R&B music that topped the charts in other markets barely made a dent here.
O.K. First of all, I want to make it very clear that I don't approve of pirate stations. I just said that they exist.
If you look at the ratings of a station like WAMG the ratings are so bad that perhaps an Urban format would be an improvement.
I realize that an Urban format won't likely be in the top ten, but I think it could be moderately successful.
If you look at the ratings of a station like WAMG the ratings are so bad that perhaps an Urban format would be an improvement.
I realize that an Urban format won't likely be in the top ten, but I think it could be moderately successful.
Jimmy, ratings are practically irrelevant. Profits matter. WILD was THE station for Boston's Black community...and lost money hand over fist.
If a heritage station can't make it, a new station (which would require HUGE marketing expenses) has NO chance. Pirates use inferior equipment and have a tiny fraction of the expenses of a licensed station. Like your buddy Lauro you can't seem to grasp one simple concept...Radio is a BUSINESS like any other.
The big Radio companies would air Gregorian chants 24/7 if there was money in it.
If a heritage station can't make it, a new station (which would require HUGE marketing expenses) has NO chance. Pirates use inferior equipment and have a tiny fraction of the expenses of a licensed station. Like your buddy Lauro you can't seem to grasp one simple concept...Radio is a BUSINESS like any other.
The big Radio companies would air Gregorian chants 24/7 if there was money in it.
Unfortunately, WILD-AM's owners thought it would be more profitable to broadcast Communist propaganda from China Radio International, so it could broadcast its message of world domination over the great citizens of Boston. Don't you think it's a disgrace how Radio One sold out to the Commies?
Normally, I'm right there with you saying "if it could be done profitably, it would already be done."
However...
I don't know if I'm convinced a Spanish-language FM couldn't be profitable in Boston. I pointed out the demos in the other thread. I think it's an intimidating format for companies not accustomed to operating a Spanish-language station. I know I wouldn't want to do it. When you look around both the Northeast and around the country, I'm seeing a lot of Spanish-language stations with some pretty solid staying power. Something's going right. I don't think it'll happen in Boston any time soon, but there's something that makes me think it could make money.
However...
I don't know if I'm convinced a Spanish-language FM couldn't be profitable in Boston. I pointed out the demos in the other thread. I think it's an intimidating format for companies not accustomed to operating a Spanish-language station. I know I wouldn't want to do it. When you look around both the Northeast and around the country, I'm seeing a lot of Spanish-language stations with some pretty solid staying power. Something's going right. I don't think it'll happen in Boston any time soon, but there's something that makes me think it could make money.
blackgold said:
Fortunately for the rest of us, there's this minor inconvenience called the First Amendment, which (surprise, surprise!) actually applies to words and ideas you don't like.
As for those "Commies," believe it or not, I (and I suspect, most others) am perfectly capable of:
1) listening to the Chinese propaganda and making up my own mind, or
2) not listening at all.
M
MickeyD
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blackgold said:
The Commies have the money and if they want to waste it on AM so be it. If they wanted to reach people tehy would buy time on an FM but I can only imagine how cheap WILD is. AM in the US isn't like AM in Beijing.
Don't we sell our debt to the Chi-comms?...anyway, WILD's owner makes money off it,
so it's capitalism...
btw dealing with pirates--driving on Lynn Shore Dr, Nahant Causeway etc I noticed an absence of
some FM pirates (at least none on 88.5, 87.9, or 89.3) but the 720 from Dorchester was on.
so it's capitalism...
btw dealing with pirates--driving on Lynn Shore Dr, Nahant Causeway etc I noticed an absence of
some FM pirates (at least none on 88.5, 87.9, or 89.3) but the 720 from Dorchester was on.
M
MickeyD
Guest
raccoonradio said:
Never heard to them referred to as Chi-comms. Thanks to you I have a new phrase.
Chinese communists
Acronym Definition
ChiComm Chinese Communists
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/ChiComm
Urban Dictionary:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chicom
>>Short for Chinese Communist...Chicom originated out of the Vietnam War and was first used as slang for tiny burlap bags or packets which usually contained Chinese, NVA, or Vietcong made communist propaganda as well as intel, ammo, food, medical supplies, etc.
Acronym Definition
ChiComm Chinese Communists
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/ChiComm
Urban Dictionary:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chicom
>>Short for Chinese Communist...Chicom originated out of the Vietnam War and was first used as slang for tiny burlap bags or packets which usually contained Chinese, NVA, or Vietcong made communist propaganda as well as intel, ammo, food, medical supplies, etc.
M
MickeyD
Guest
raccoonradio said:
I know what it means. I wish that I heard this phrase when I was dating a Chi-Comm for many years. She wasn't a big fan of them ended up on a cooperative farm and learned the hard way what being a "comm" was all about. This would have been better than just playing the Beatles song Revolution. "You can go carrying pictures of charimen Mao..."
Retro said:
Now, yes. Not back when it was first released.
4CX1000A said:
Though perhaps a better deal for the money, Entercom wanted the WAAF programming to target the City of Boston and the immediate surrounding metro, not the Merrimack Valley and the north suburbs.
The reception of WCRB 99.5 in Boston proper and the immediate surrounding metro is not much better than WAAF 107.3 in the area.
With today's (May 16th) sale of WFNX-101.7 to Clear Channel, I think there's a good chance Boston will be getting a commercial Spanish-language FM station (likely with a music format aimed at Hispanics under the age of 40) by the end of the Summer.
However, WFNX is a Class "A" station, not the more powerful Class "B". Still, 101.7 supposedly has a good signal almost everywhere inside I-495.
And despite it's signal, I think a Spanish-language 101.7 could rank among Boston's ten most popular radio stations both in 12-plus and young adult demographics within six to twelve months of it's launch.
If 101.7 goes Spanish, it's almost-instant success will be the story of 2012 in Boston radio.
However, WFNX is a Class "A" station, not the more powerful Class "B". Still, 101.7 supposedly has a good signal almost everywhere inside I-495.
And despite it's signal, I think a Spanish-language 101.7 could rank among Boston's ten most popular radio stations both in 12-plus and young adult demographics within six to twelve months of it's launch.
If 101.7 goes Spanish, it's almost-instant success will be the story of 2012 in Boston radio.
Joseph_Gallant said:
Hi Joe. Good to hear from you once again! As for the sale of 101.7, it was pretty much a matter of not so much "if", but rather "when"! It was bound to happen. No doubt 'FNX has its' die-in-the-wool following. But as a stand-alone FM with a so-so signal (outside of Boston proper), the ad dollars were simply not there. As for 101.7 going Spanish...... who knows? Boston is not New York and while there are many stations catering to the Hispanic community in the Metro area, I seriously doubt CC will go Spanish on FM. (Now watch what happens when they do!!!!!) I would think that they would first move the 1200 talk format to 101.7 and simulcast it as such. Country is already well served with 102.5. Will Spanish move to FM? Probably, but not just yet. But, you NEVER KNOW!!
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