Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Park

[Legend City]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Par

5 stations did not need to send up copters. The police had theirs up and they were in charge of catching the guy.

The TV stations were in the way, they caused the crash.

If these copters had crashed while covering a parade, would it be the parade organizer's fault? After all, if there were no parade, there would be no reason to have the copters up filming it, right?

 

[beauduran]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Par

They're doing the best they can considering what happened. The folks at 15 have kept their cool for the most part. I won't fault either station for anything. Both stations' coverage has been top-notch.

Agreed, Keith. I have been flipping between all 5 channels all day, and what really struck me is how the anchors on 3, notably Patti, Scott and Heather, have really worn their hearts on their sleeve. It certainly seems like that is a very close newsroom over there. The vibe from 15 has been a lot more cool and collected, I've only seen Katie show her emotions once. DuPre has been pretty solid throughout.

 

[newschannel]

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Did any of you see some of the troller's comments on ABC's forums? It makes me wonder if some people do feel like that, and are glad people died today.

 

[Teddyo]

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Leg, my friend the runaway driver DID (indirectly) cause the crash that led to people DYING. Any halfarssed shyster lawyer would tell you thats 2nd or 3rd degree murder - (not sure of the qualifications for those).

The choppers would NOT have been covering the chase - IF THERE WAS NO CHASE. The ruanawy driver indirectly caused the crash.

Sorry but I don't follow this reasoning at all. Not that some shyster lawyer might not try, but how could the suspect be responsible for the helicopter crash unless he actually ordered them to be at the site?

The news helicopters are representing for-profit businesses that have no special rights to be there other than any other aircraft. They aren't police helicopters and aren't directly serving the public. I'm not defending the clown -- I hope he gets what's coming to him, but there is no way I think that the suspect is responsible for this air crash.

 

[formeraa]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Park

Lin Sue and Fay over at KPNX are also saying that the suspect CAUSED the death of the 4 men. I also agree that the suspect didn't cause their deaths. There were simply too many helicopters in a small area! It left NO room for error on anyone's part.

While the suspect should be charged with every crime he committed, he should not be charged with 4 counts of manslaughter.

I will be interested to hear the NTSB findings (it was interesting that most of the anchors were saying that the FAA would be investigating -- experienced reporters would know that it's the NTSB).

 

[genius]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Park

Let me tell you a story...

When I worked at KCNC in Denver there was a major car chase ended in a shopping center parking lot when our pilot Mike Silva lowered the helicopter in front of the stolen truck with the fugitive and hostage inside. That gave the police the leverage they needed to end it. Silva if I recall was reprimanded by the station for putting himself and his photographer in danger, but they were also quick to get the video to NBC (as they were owned by NBC back then), who put it on the evening news.

A news chopper engaging in risky things just to get the story is nothing new, and if that is what occurred today in Phoenix this is a consequence of that.

May the crew rest in peace. :'(

 

[newschannel]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Par

5 stations did not need to send up copters. The police had theirs up and they were in charge of catching the guy.

The TV stations were in the way, they caused the crash.

If these copters had crashed while covering a parade, would it be the parade organizer's fault? After all, if there were no parade, there would be no reason to have the copters up filming it, right?

Do you mind? Shut up!

 

[TheRob]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Park

I've heard KNXV's chopper was transmitting all the way to the ground. In the internet video, you can definitely hear a scream as they cut to the anchor. KTVK was reportedly cutting under KNXV while in the air, severing the blades.

In Kansas City, three of the pilots have an understanding to let one take the lead and let the others trail. The fourth doesn't cooperate -- I've seen him fly through our shot live on the air before.

 

[Legend City]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Par

5 stations did not need to send up copters. The police had theirs up and they were in charge of catching the guy.

The TV stations were in the way, they caused the crash.

If these copters had crashed while covering a parade, would it be the parade organizer's fault? After all, if there were no parade, there would be no reason to have the copters up filming it, right?

Do you mind? Shut up!

I am NOT trolling, and my deepest sympathies for the families and all the people involved.

This was a senseless accident, for what? So that 5 stations could film a guy who stole a car?

Local news is overly sensationalized and wastes their time and money on bringing us really unimportant news like this. It was bound to happen.

I respect your loss, but questions need to be asked, and just telling someone to shut up won't keep the questions from being asked.

 

[medina]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Par

What a terrible story.

I heard the story happen on KTAR. Thought their reporting was some of the best I've ever heard.

 

[newschannel]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Par

What a terrible story.

I heard the story happen on KTAR. Thought their reporting was some of the best I've ever heard.

I think for them, they feel for this as well. Bear in mind that one of their pilots crashed in the early 90's as well.

 

[searadiofreak]

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This story has brought up an interesting debate. But instead of blaming the suspect, or blaming the tv stations, the real blame needs to be placed on the audience, who evidently loves to watch this crap.

 

[newschannel]

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This story has brought up an interesting debate. But instead of blaming the suspect, or blaming the tv stations, the real blame needs to be placed on the audience, who evidently loves to watch this crap.

Searradiofreak, we don't need to blame ANYONE today. Today is a day of mourning and reflection. Anyone who blames anybody is, IMO, trollers and deserves to be banned.

 

[tmartin993]

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thats soo true. we need to take this time to reflect on this traggic event and count our blessings.via con dios you brave men and thank you for wonderful service in bringing news to us.

 

[searadiofreak]

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Of course, and I am not a troll. But please understand that while a local tragedy, this has also become national news.
I also was emotionally caught up in this, watching the webcasts. But why is it too early to start discussing the ramifications? You guys sound like the "thought-police". But when I hear the local TV stations blame the suspect, (obviously a bad guy), for the crash, I just cringe! The subject matter is important, and my heart goes out to the families of the victims. But don't call me a "troll" and suggest being banned for addressing a legitimate issue in the TV news business.

 

[mjlarochelle]

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newschannel,

This is indeed a tragedy and I send my sympathies down there from up here in Canada. That being said, there HAS to be blame put somewhere here. The point is to prevent such a needless loss of life from happening again. We can and must talk about why this happened and how it should be prevented in the future if we are to not let it happen in the future.

You have the right to your opinion, but please, do not suggest that those of us who want to do what we can to prevent this from happening again need to be banned.

Quite honestly, as a Canadian television viewer, I cannot understand why all these American markets have these kinds of television "news" organizations that all have to have choppers and cover every single minor event in the market. I can count the number of television news helicopters in all of Canada on less than two hands. I believe there is one in Montreal, two in Toronto, two in Vancouver, and one each in Calgary and Edmonton. And most stations report on real news, they don't get wrapped up in the sensationalistic garbage that many of the American stations get into, both locally and nationally. Now, up here we sacrifice grossly in the areas of severe weather coverage and some major breaking news, but there has got to be a happy medium between here and markets like Phoenix.

 

[4dude]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Park

Very sad.......

How could they collide?? THEY MUST HAVE SEEN EACH OTHER!

 

[Legend City]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Par

Not if one was directly above another.

That is the reports I'm hearing, is that the 3 copter went under the 15 copter.

 

[Legend City]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Par

This story has brought up an interesting debate. But instead of blaming the suspect, or blaming the tv stations, the real blame needs to be placed on the audience, who evidently loves to watch this crap.

Searradiofreak, we don't need to blame ANYONE today. Today is a day of mourning and reflection. Anyone who blames anybody is, IMO, trollers and deserves to be banned.

You don't ban people for talking about the news. How ironic is that?

4 people are dead because everyone has to jump on the story and send a chopper, even if the story isn't that important.

I'm sorry if you think I'm trolling, but I'm not, I don't want this to ever happen again, and I'm mad as hell that it happened in the first place.

 

[searadiofreak]

Re: Breaking news: Channel 3 & 15 Choppers collide & crash at Indian School Par

This story has brought up an interesting debate. But instead of blaming the suspect, or blaming the tv stations, the real blame needs to be placed on the audience, who evidently loves to watch this crap.

Searradiofreak, we don't need to blame ANYONE today. Today is a day of mourning and reflection. Anyone who blames anybody is, IMO, trollers and deserves to be banned.

You don't ban people for talking about the news. How ironic is that?

4 people are dead because everyone has to jump on the story and send a chopper, even if the story isn't that important.

I'm sorry if you think I'm trolling, but I'm not, I don't want this to ever happen again, and I'm mad as hell that it happened in the first place.

Newschannel, sounds like you may have been close to someone involved. If that is the case, my deepest sympathies. But you are way off base in suggesting banning someone for bringing up questions that need to be asked. Perhaps you think I am someone else. I'm just a media-junkie who follows issues in local tv quite closely. I agree that we must respect and pray for those and their families who died today. But, the bigger picture is, how is the media reflecting audience needs and desires? If the audience loves car chases, you can't blame media for trying to deliver. Unfortunately, the competition for this kind of coverage sometimes goes beyond the importance of the story. I believe, ultimately, the audience drives what we see on local TV. It is unfortunate, because at the end of the day, a tragedy occured because of this. It's an important issue.