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Can someone tell me why is wabc flagship station of red eye radio when...

hotpatrick2004

hotpatrick2004

The majority of the time mr mcintyre braodcasts from kabc? He gets in on the last few minutes of john phillips show and then red eye radio starts after top of the hour news. Just wondering if anyone can tell me why wabc is the flagship station and not kabc???

I am guessing that his producer brian does the show from wabc. I remember a caller asking if he could see brian.I enjoy listening to mr kabc when he hosts the 7th night of red eye radio. Kabc should never of let him go ever!!!

Thanks guys and gals.

I dont appreciate how dodger baseball interferes with red eye radio.
 
Remember, he was fired from KABC. That says a lot!

I agree with you, about the Dodgers. Maybe the team will be sold and moved back to New York? It really belongs on one of those stations, that are devoted to sports.
 
He does an additional hour of local talk for WABC after Red Eye Radio.

The WABC listeners don't want (I'm guessing) a California person doing their local news and traffic.

The Red Eye producer and call screener are in Texas.
 
Doug was let go from KABC when WABC picked up Red Eye Radio and started doing real well in the early drive time NY, at KABC, overnight number were non existant, so they finally decided to bring him back on KABC overnights. Thats why WABC is the flagship, even though he broadcasts from a production studio at KABC in LA. Oh...the Dodgers bring in more than 60% of KABC/KLOS revenue...so I doubt they will just let that go anytime soon, especially with a pending change in management. Who knows, by the end of summer, the stations might be some other format.
 
Thanks button pusher pusher that explains alot:):):) Just like what has happened to anthony weiner the same is true for kabc a mighty fall from grace very sad!!!They really made a huge mistake getting rid of mr kabc i love listening to him on the 7th day of red eye radio:):):)I just want to know 1 question what happened to kabc was it disney selling them or what wtf ruined them ?Yes they have improved a bit but very little it is very sad:(:(:(

Dodger baseball and all the infomercials on the weekends make up the majority of revenue i bet anything else after that on kabc is just gravy.
So i was always wondering why doug left morning drive in number 2 market to do a syndicated overnight show? Was it kabc that let him go or did he leave kabc on his own??? Peter tilden in the mornings is okay not as good as doug. I remember when john and ken did mornings briefly on kabc back in 2000 also i remember john and ken use to have an overnight syndicated show back in the late 90s i listene to it in ym hometown of louisville ky where i lived then.

Also red eye radio started because if i recall the bush v gore recount made for good radio and before that kabc had coast to coast. Ya know i dont care if someone is liberal or conservative as long as there local and entertaining i guess doug threads that needle and acts as both. He is live and local so to speak. But i must end on this note it really is a sad tale the tale of kabc. I can only speak from 2000 when i first moved here but it really was a well programmed station i just want to know wtf happened???
 
Doug says quite frequently on the Red Eye show that KABC fired him and Laurie Cantillo at WABC took a chance and hired him.
 
QUOTE: "Oh...the Dodgers bring in more than 60% of KABC/KLOS revenue..."


Considering that KLOS had nearly double the revenue of KABC last year, the notion of Dodger baseball generating 60% of the combined stations' revenue is somewhat spurious.
 
Shoot From Hip said:
QUOTE: "Oh...the Dodgers bring in more than 60% of KABC/KLOS revenue..."


Considering that KLOS had nearly double the revenue of KABC last year, the notion of Dodger baseball generating 60% of the combined stations' revenue is somewhat spurious.
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yes that is true when the stations sell seperately...but most spots are combos that air on both stations...so my statement is not far off... maybe closer to 45%. I'm sure some one else has more accurate numbers. But I dont see KABC giving up the Dodgers money any time soon...especially when their ratings are in the basement.
 
You think the Dodgers account for more than $20m in KABC/KLOS revenue? Based on what evidence? That would be millions more revenue than any time during the years when the LA Radio market was in the billion dollar/year range...which is a couple hundred million more than it's currently doing.
 
I find that just to funny mr mcintyre has the last laugh!!! Kabc fires him but wabc rehires him and now he does his show from kabc radio and sits in on john phillips show this is classic reminds me of when in my hometown john ziegler got fired from our clear channel station 84 whas and the clear channel station out here kfi rehired him to funny.

If kabc was smart they would give john ziegler his own show. I think mcintyre is smarter then ziegler he watches his p's and q's. What reason did kabc give for firing doug???I bet it was petty he is a great host!!!

I like mr kabc better but like dougs politics better then mr kabc's
 
The story of Mr kabc and kabc is a lesson in irritation. Mark Levin wanted in on Los Angeles radio. So he muscled his TAPED show into the lineup that forced Mr. kabc's show back an hour, then Levin got them to add more of his show and Mr Kabc did not want to have his show and hours keep moving later into the night. He left the air at that point, Levin eventually moved to an entirely different spot after Sean Hannity begging the question why did they muscle Mr kabc out in the first place if Levin never intended that as his primary time slot.


I HATE what kabc has become, I don't give a crap about the dodgers, why did they have to confiscate that station? How many stations are there that could have housed the same content?

I must have been the 2008 crash with the dumping of ad revenue, but things should be getting better now, so get rid of the dodgers and return the format. Or don't, I have 4 hours of podcasts of John batchelor and I can listen to that any time of day when CRAP in the standard in Los Angeles radio.
 
JonIrenicus said:
I HATE what kabc has become, I don't give a crap about the dodgers, why did they have to confiscate that station? How many stations are there that could have housed the same content?
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There are such things as signed contracts to be considered. The station cannot just "drop" the Dodgers whenever they feel like it. Last I heard, the contract runs through the end of this year. No doubt the status of Vin Scully on the future broadcasts and the ownership situation will play a significant role in determining if the contract will be extended and for what fee. As for KABC, if it weren't for the Dodgers they would probably be in radio oblivion. I sincerely doubt that they want to drop the Dodgers for John Batchelor.
 
Never cared much for batchelors show!!!I found it very boring and very out of place on kabc!!! It is just a sad tale of a radio radio station kabc that is.

I like the fact they brought larry back i know you are going to the past for the future but i enjoy his show. But they need to dump levin and get al rantel back. Or give ziegler a shot and once the dodger baseball contract is up get rid of sports on that station for good. Whom ever brought the dodgers on the station and i believe football on in the fall is a fool. It has no place on a talk station on market number 2!!!
 
KABC and the Dodgers co-existed quite nicely from 1973 or 1974-1997. I know...markets and situations change over time, but why couldn't they co-exist today? And where would the Dodgers go? KLAC? KSPN? back to KFWB or KTLK (highly unlikely)? An FM outlet?

Note: the Dodgers were on KMPC from 1958-59, on KFI from 1960-1973, on KABC from 1974-1997, on KXTA from 1998-2002 and KFWB from 2003-2007.
However, Wikipedia is inconsistent on the years; in the paragraph before the graph/chart, they mention the years as 1958-1960 for KMPC, 1961-1972 for KFI, 1973-1997 for KABC, 1998-2001 for KXTA (now KTLK), 2002-2007 on KFWB.
I'm sure that an Angeleno board member could confirm the correct info.

Kind of ironic that back in May 1982 when WABC NY changed from music to talk radio, most of the KABC daytime talk lineup was imported at startup. It wasn't until WABC developed its own talent (Rush, Hannity) and brought in New York centric hosts (Bob Grant had been at WMCA & WOR for several years - and before that at KFI & KABC) that it began to get a foothold in the NYC talk arena.

Now the tables have turned. The mostly New York developed and based (yet nationally syndicated) WABC lineup has been imported to KABC over the years with diminishing returns, maybe for the same reasons that the WABC early lineup faltered. Of course, the emergence of KFI over the last 15-20 years has put a major dent into KABC, whereas the NYC competition to WABC (WOR mostly) hasn't made quite the impact.

Add the financial problems of Citadel into the equation which may have led to nationally syndicated programming being rolled out on most of its outlets to save programming costs. This may have been a contributing factor to KABC's demise. We'll see if the merger with Cumulus will have any effect on KABC (and other affiliates).
 
pjc1961 said:
KABC and the Dodgers co-existed quite nicely from 1973 or 1974-1997. I know...markets and situations change over time, but why couldn't they co-exist today? And where would the Dodgers go? KLAC? KSPN? back to KFWB or KTLK (highly unlikely)? An FM outlet?

Note: the Dodgers were on KMPC from 1958-59, on KFI from 1960-1973, on KABC from 1974-1997, on KXTA from 1998-2002 and KFWB from 2003-2007.
However, Wikipedia is inconsistent on the years; in the paragraph before the graph/chart, they mention the years as 1958-1960 for KMPC, 1961-1972 for KFI, 1973-1997 for KABC, 1998-2001 for KXTA (now KTLK), 2002-2007 on KFWB.
I'm sure that an Angeleno board member could confirm the correct info.

Kind of ironic that back in May 1982 when WABC NY changed from music to talk radio, most of the KABC daytime talk lineup was imported at startup. It wasn't until WABC developed its own talent (Rush, Hannity) and brought in New York centric hosts (Bob Grant had been at WMCA & WOR for several years - and before that at KFI & KABC) that it began to get a foothold in the NYC talk arena.

Now the tables have turned. The mostly New York developed and based (yet nationally syndicated) WABC lineup has been imported to KABC over the years with diminishing returns, maybe for the same reasons that the WABC early lineup faltered. Of course, the emergence of KFI over the last 15-20 years has put a major dent into KABC, whereas the NYC competition to WABC (WOR mostly) hasn't made quite the impact.

Add the financial problems of Citadel into the equation which may have led to nationally syndicated programming being rolled out on most of its outlets to save programming costs. This may have been a contributing factor to KABC's demise. We'll see if the merger with Cumulus will have any effect on KABC (and other affiliates).
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The entire reason that the Los Angeles Angels franchise came about was the original Dodger move from KMPC to KFI. The short version of the story says that after KMPC lost the rights to the Dodgers, Gene Autry went to the Baseball winter meetings to ask for rights to broadcast another team or perhaps some sort of a league package on his station, KMPC. However, during those meetings, it was just decided to award Gene an entire franchise of his own. Thus the Los Angeles, and later California, Angels were born, and of course broadcast on Gene's 710 KMPC for years.
 
JonIrenicus said:
...I HATE what kabc has become, I don't give a crap about the dodgers, why did they have to confiscate that station? How many stations are there that could have housed the same content?

I must have been the 2008 crash with the dumping of ad revenue, but things should be getting better now, so get rid of the dodgers and return the format. Or don't, I have 4 hours of podcasts of John batchelor and I can listen to that any time of day when CRAP in the standard in Los Angeles radio.
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My feelings exactly
 
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