I noticed that KTVU seems to be the only Fox Station that is not tabloidal in newscasts not only because they are the largest Non O&O of Fox. Also Dennis Richmond's Legacy still live on KTVU even though he left the station in 2008. I noticed they do all the hard news in the Bay Area. However I remember KTLA in the Hal Fishman era at one time followed the KTVU format until in recent years KTLA had to bow down to an HLN Format. I heard that KTLA and KTVU were once Superstations in the 1980's that probably explains why KTLA was able to get the KTVU format in its newscasts. Has any other Fox Station follow the KTVU Dennis Richmond format in its newscasts as of 2010?
-
Get involved.
We want your input!
Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.
After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.
After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/
Thanks in advance and have fun!
RadioDiscussions Administrators
Can you Id any Fox affiliates besides KTVU that are not Tabloidal in their news.
- Thread starter recto101
- Start date
J
JackBauer112
Guest
KTXL FOX 40 does have hard news duing their nightly newscasts including their Viewers Voice but the stations that follow KTVU more are KPTV in Portland (They have Good Day Oregon from 4:30-9 AM and an extension from 9-10 AM on KPDX and KCPQ 13 FOX in Seattle with the 9 PM News on My Q2 (KMYQ 22) and the 10 PM Q13 FOX News. They seem more hard hitting in the Pacific Northwest.
A number of Fox affiliates avoid the tabloidal format in news like WRAZ Raleigh/Durham, but its because it owned by Capitol Broadcasting and sister station to market powerhouse WRAL-TV 5. Also most of the Raycom Media Fox affiliates avoid tabloidal news as well.
Is KTTV in LA (the Fox O&O flagship) "tabloidal" in its news? I don't know - just asking.
Deciding whether or not to make your news tabloidal has nothing to do with what network you're affiliated with, or whether you're an affiliate as opposed to an O&O. And it has nothing to do with whether or not you're a super-station. WGN is a super station, and I don't find their news to be particularly tabloidal. The format (as you call it) is a decision of station management and the news department.
KTVU's news gained influence in the 70s by being the station to go to for straight no-nonsense news. It isn't particularly Dennis Richmond's legacy - it was the policy of the news department, of which he was one employee, though granted he was the highest profile employee.
KTVU's approach to news is what they've built their reputation on, and they'd be nuts to change now.
Deciding whether or not to make your news tabloidal has nothing to do with what network you're affiliated with, or whether you're an affiliate as opposed to an O&O. And it has nothing to do with whether or not you're a super-station. WGN is a super station, and I don't find their news to be particularly tabloidal. The format (as you call it) is a decision of station management and the news department.
KTVU's news gained influence in the 70s by being the station to go to for straight no-nonsense news. It isn't particularly Dennis Richmond's legacy - it was the policy of the news department, of which he was one employee, though granted he was the highest profile employee.
KTVU's approach to news is what they've built their reputation on, and they'd be nuts to change now.
mescutia said:
Since recto started the thread, I'll let him supply the definition. But my assumption was that by "tabloidal," he meant the news approach that tends to favor sensationalistic stories involving crime, scandal, and violence; while downplaying stories about government, and civic and world affairs (unless violence or scandal is involved). These broadcasts tend to also have the splashiest graphics, and at least one anchor person who talks in an excited and loud voice to punctuate the luridness of the stories.
"If it bleeds, it leads," was the popular term in the 70s for this kind of newscast. KTVU is the antithesis of this approach. When KNTV first became an NBC affiliate, they went rather "tabloidal" for awhile, and their anchorman (Allen Denton) almost yelled the stories. But I noticed that within about a year, their approach had calmed down, and obviously somebody told Allen to tone it down too, because he wasn't yelling anymore. Fortunately, neither Allen or the cringe-inducing Terilyn Joe work there anymore.
Lkeller that is the definition of tabloidalism that i was looking for approach that tends to favor sensationalistic stories involving crime, scandal, and violence; while downplaying stories about government, and civic and world affairs (unless violence or scandal is involved). These broadcasts tend to also have the splashiest graphics, and at least one anchor person who talks in an excited and loud voice to punctuate the luridness of the stories.Lkeller said:
Also on the Fox O&O's I see more celeb fluff on KTTV, KTLA and Fox News while KTVU is more focused on Oakland City Hall, San Francisco City Hall and Sacramento.
Lkeller said:
Very much so. It's all TMZ fluff and car chases. It's unwatchable, especially Good Day LA.
Please allow me to take this to the East Coast.
Last night (June Eighth) here in New York City, Fox-owned WNYW started their 10:00 PM newscast with BREAKING NEWS: a warrant had been issued for Lindsay Lohan's arrest in California. And they took us there live.
Meanwhile, the top story on Tribune's WPIX was the latest on the two wanna-be thugs from New Jersey who planned to join an al-Qaeda affiliate in Somalia for terrorism training.
What's more relevant -- two local losers who wanted to kill Americans, or a flamed-out pop tart from Long Island? You make the call.
Last night (June Eighth) here in New York City, Fox-owned WNYW started their 10:00 PM newscast with BREAKING NEWS: a warrant had been issued for Lindsay Lohan's arrest in California. And they took us there live.
Meanwhile, the top story on Tribune's WPIX was the latest on the two wanna-be thugs from New Jersey who planned to join an al-Qaeda affiliate in Somalia for terrorism training.
What's more relevant -- two local losers who wanted to kill Americans, or a flamed-out pop tart from Long Island? You make the call.
Rollo-Smokes said:
Now that is sad. However, that's a call by the management and news director on the what they deem as "news". WFLD in Chicago (FOX O&O) seems to be more hard news oriented with occasional fluff mostly during their morning news "Good Day Chicago". I think it depends on the market because the FOX O&O in Atlanta is more hard news as well, so it might be if a market is considered a "celebrity/entertian haven" then the FOX station will focus on the fluff. Just look at WSVN Miami, a non-O&O FOX affiliate that is very tabloidal and considered the flagship of the news format.
KSAZ is a Fox O&O that really isn't tabloidal in its coverage. Both their 9pm and their 10pm newscasts (which they have had since their CBS days) are really good - in fact, some of them are a bit fluffy. They are one of the rare stations these days with two weekend anchors.
I think most of the "news share" cases might not be as tabloidal - WRAZ already got mentioned. WTIC also is known for some pretty un-Foxy newscasts and KCPQ also tends to be serious - but that's more of a market or station share-based thing, I think. Phoenix local news is just...ew. KSAZ actually is leading the market, but it should be noted that the fall of KPNX (which has been happening for a couple years mainly based on NBC trends and a few changes there) has led to a bit of a feeding frenzy for first.
I think most of the "news share" cases might not be as tabloidal - WRAZ already got mentioned. WTIC also is known for some pretty un-Foxy newscasts and KCPQ also tends to be serious - but that's more of a market or station share-based thing, I think. Phoenix local news is just...ew. KSAZ actually is leading the market, but it should be noted that the fall of KPNX (which has been happening for a couple years mainly based on NBC trends and a few changes there) has led to a bit of a feeding frenzy for first.
K
kenrayc
Guest
KMPH 26 in Fresno is not Tabloidal with their 10 o'clock news or at 11:30 AM except the extended coverage of American Idol, but Great Day from 5-10 AM is a different story.
Rollo-Smokes said:
Well Here in the Bay Area the two top stories that pop up on KTVU is the Budget Crisis in the Bay Area, Intro of Green Jobs, Biotech in San Jose and the Oscar Grant trial. Maybe I was too focused on KTTV and Fox News National in my generalization on the Fox O&O's of being tabloidal with celeb fluff.
- Status