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Can you take 1 more KB post from someone out of market?

It’s been a week since “the day the music died” … again. The day that WWKB 1520/ Buffalo switched formats. The first time in ‘88 was not unexpected. This time it hurt badly. First, let me state flat out that I don’t live in the area. As a matter of fact, I’m 523 miles away from Buffalo as the crow flies, in downeast Maine. So whatever I say won’t influence the powers that be at Entercom or anyone else for that matter.

WKBW is a truly unique station, always has been. Its signal and history will always insure its place of radio greatness. I do applaud Entercom for trying to bring it back to its musical roots for the last three years. The radio “business” has changed so dramatically though, I almost understand why they killed it … again. WKBW was a station for those of us who wanted to keep reliving the glory days of this once great station. The music was secondary compared to hearing Danny and Tom and Jackson and the jingles. And to hear it coming out in mono on the AM band was why I listened. Sure I could hear the same songs on local “oldies”/satellite stations, or on the satellite dish, or remastered CD’s, or burn it off the computer. But that wasn’t WHY I listened to KB. It was for the experience of listening to KB.

As a 48 year old boomer, I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s with the AM band and listening to our local daytimer WGUY 1250/Bangor. After sunset though, the world opened up with WRKO 680/Boston, WBZ 1030/Boston, WMEX 1510/Boston, WNBC 660/New York, WABC 770/New York, WPLR 1540/Albany and THE station that all the ‘cool’ people had on WKBW. I can still recall hearing the Beatles coming through my Dad’s ‘63 Chevy Belair up on Craig’s Pond. Later in ‘76 - ‘77 on my own, KB was playing the latest tunes through my old Chevy Malibu and then my new Ford Pinto. I couldn’t understand why Mom and Dad didn’t like that new music. Now I can understand fully their frustration as the sounds on the current CHR stations make me turn my head and go “huh?”.

In the world of radio, my demographics are quickly becoming unattractive to advertisers. I don’t like it, but I will live with it. I’ve called Greg Ried at 716 843-0600 at Entercom and left my message on his machine. Whether he ever heard it or if he just presses the button to “erase all” each morning, I’ll never know. Either way, it’s not a nice way to treat the public. But then again he’s not hired to serve the public interest outside of Buffalo. Is he even hired to serve the public interest in Buffalo??? It’s too bad that this blowtorch signal that serves the eastern seaboard and Canada is just now another station with programming that is available everywhere else.

Will we see massive campaigning to return the station to what we’d like it to be? Probably not. I think back to the pilot episode of “WKRP In Cincinnati” when the station flipped from “old people” music to rock and roll. I feel like Nedra Volz looking for her cat. No one is going to listen to me anyway because I’m too old. But Entercom will take advantage of any protests to promote the “new KB”. Here just stand underneath this logo while you hold your protest sign.

The powers that be are going to look for that mighty advertising dollar. Will they find it with “Buffalo’s Left Station”? No, but they will use it as a pawn to make one of their other stations in the cluster achieve bigger ratings. And that’s what saddens me the most. The owners have no concept on how to treat this station that was once the crown jewel of radio stations. Or what wkbwradio.com owner David Fill means when he calls it “one of America’s two great radio stations.”

With what I see as programming blunders like this just keeps driving listeners away from terrestrial stations and makes us look harder at XM and Sirius. I was thinking of it before and I’ll look at it even more. I just might wait a little bit longer and see if Jack Armstrong should wind up with Cousin Brucie on Sirius before making a decision.

So long KB. It was nice having you back, even if it was for too short a time and even if it was not at your full potential. I’ll now erase you from my presets but I’ll keep the good memories.
 
Why Can't We Still Have "SNARP" one night?

> Will we see massive campaigning to return the station to
> what we’d like it to be? Probably not.

What would be nice is if the powers to be at Entercom let the Saturday (or Sunday) Night All Request Party ("SNARP") continue. I mean, do they really have to have the talk on during that time slot? Even if Tom Donahue didn't want to do the show every week, perhaps the rest of the jocks (Danny, Sandy, Steve, etc), might like to do it on a rotating basis. Anybody else think that this is a good suggestion?
 
If a very low rated FM changed formats, some listeners would complain. If that station happened to have 1 million watts, listeners from far away would also complain. There wouldn't be that many listeners from any one area complaining, but the aggregate would make it seem as though the station was very popular---but all the while it would only have a 1.0 share.

Let it go. Just let it go.

In a world of broadcasting where everyone had long ago (1996) realized it was really just a business, I cannot believe ANYONE is the least bit surprised that KB is finally dead. You should have been thrilled that it stayed on longer than 6 months! Novelty only goes so far when you're paying several fulltime salaries to make it happen. The ONLY surprise I had was that it took this long to drop the format.

Most markets wouldn't even have bothered resurrecting a fossil like KB. Buffalonians should consider themselves quite lucky it lasted as long as it did.

End of story.
 
Great idea, NO DICE. (was Re: Why Can't We Still Have "SNARP" one night?)

Believe it or not, I actually sent that idea to Mr. Wenger last week regarding "SNARP" on Sunday nights. They had nothing to lose, considering it otherwise would be a "retread" of a Friday evening show. I mentioned the fact that WABC, the most listened to Talk station in New York City, returned to its' roots and started doing Saturday night oldies for 4 hours. Well, NO DICE.... as you heard last night that there was no "SNARP", just a Friday night "retread". SO, here we are... stuck with the status quo and no more "SNARP". Oh, well. Bye, bye 1520.

> What would be nice is if the powers to be at Entercom let
> the Saturday (or Sunday) Night All Request Party ("SNARP")
> continue. I mean, do they really have to have the talk on
> during that time slot? Even if Tom Donahue didn't want to
> do the show every week, perhaps the rest of the jocks
> (Danny, Sandy, Steve, etc), might like to do it on a
> rotating basis. Anybody else think that this is a good
> suggestion?
> <P ID="signature">______________
Peter Q. George (K1XRB)
Whitman, Massachusetts</P>
 
Nice post Main-i-ac I'm with ya, also out of market. KB was more than a radio station to me which most will not understand. It failed because there are too many other stations in the cluster to take care of. The once mighty KB has become an embarrassment.

So now it returns to being a closet operation where even the people in the building will forget about it.

Oh and to the poster who spoke of KB's Blue haired listeners. I don't have blue hair, I'm still in the target demo of 25-55 (barely)....oh and your day is coming. One day you'll wake up and wonder where the time went!

MikeM
 
> WKBW is a truly unique station, always has been. Its signal
> and history will always insure its place of radio greatness.
> I do applaud Entercom for trying to bring it back to its
> musical roots for the last three years. The radio “business”
> has changed so dramatically though, I almost understand why
> they killed it … again.

I don't.

For two reasons.

One is sentimental. For one brief happy moment in my career in 1977-78 I was a member of 'KB's news crew as street reporter and swing shift newscaster, and got to know and work with a lot of the legends who labored at 1430 Main St. Those were exciting moments being a small part of a great station at the height of its power. Soon enough, it would be time to move on (in my case to become part of the morning crew across town at WBEN in 1978---we all have to grow up sometime, don't we?). But if 'KB was ever a part of your life, you treasure the memory of the excitement and energy in which you took part. I know 'KB meant a lot, not only to its alumni, but to everyone who was once a loyal listener while growing up and coming of age.

The second is related very much to the business of the moment. Why Entercom would create an in-house competitor to WBEN for the overall talk audience at the very moment they're trying to broaden 'BEN's listenership with the hiring of someone like Ron Dobson is an inexplicable move from a strategic business standpoint. And sending a nearly 2% share of the audience which loved the oldies over to ABC/Citadel's WHTT, a move which may end up sending WHTT past WBEN into second place overall in the market, looks even crazier.

> In the world of radio, my demographics are quickly becoming
> unattractive to advertisers. I don’t like it, but I will
> live with it. I’ve called Greg Ried at 716 843-0600 at
> Entercom and left my message on his machine. Whether he ever
> heard it or if he just presses the button to “erase all”
> each morning, I’ll never know. Either way, it’s not a nice
> way to treat the public. But then again he’s not hired to
> serve the public interest outside of Buffalo. Is he even
> hired to serve the public interest in Buffalo??? It’s too
> bad that this blowtorch signal that serves the eastern
> seaboard and Canada is just now another station with
> programming that is available everywhere else.

Is he even hired to serve HIS OWN COMPANY's interests in Buffalo? He should have talked to his colleague Mike Doyle at Entercom's Rochester cluster--Mike used Air America as a flanking move against Clear Channel's WHAM with the idea of pulling a small slice of the talk audience away from WHAM and helping his own WBEE rise to #1 and stay there. Greg Reid has just used a similar flanking move against HIMSELF---it's his own WBEN that stands to lose a small slice of audience to his own big-signal progressive talker up the dial at 1520, while Citadel's WHTT is likely to pick up a bigger slice and pass WBEN in the market rankings within a book or two, simply by doing nothing. We didn't even mention yet about how Citadel's WHLD will carve away a little more of WBEN's audience by fielding its own brand of liberal talk...which makes the change at 'KB even more strategically questionable.

They obviously forgot why they killed WGR's old mainstream talk format despite fairly strong ratings when they bought it from Robert Rich a decade ago and took it to sports talk. At that time they were giving up some 12+ numbers for WGR to protect the stronger-performing WBEN. Now they've gone and undone that strategic move which had served them well for ten years.

> The powers that be are going to look for that mighty
> advertising dollar. Will they find it with “Buffalo’s Left
> Station”? No, but they will use it as a pawn to make one of
> their other stations in the cluster achieve bigger ratings.

And the irony is, it is going to backfire and help the competition on several levels instead.

Incomprehensible.
 
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