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CBS 11 KTVT DALLAS STILL IN NEED OF A PRONOUNCIATION GUIDE PART 2

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During the 4pm newscast Stella Payne was doing a story on proposed cuts for Special Education students in the Mansfield ISD. She was talking to a parent about her "ARTISTIC" child. The Child was AUTISTIC..pronounced AH-TIS-STICK. CBS11 should really be embarassed considering they sponsor "Stephanie's day" each year. A day devoted to Autistic children. Stephanie is the daughter of the GM of KTVT. Stephanie has Autism. CBS 11 get a pronounciation guide for every reporter and anchor..soon, and make them use it.
 
captex said:
i noticed in austin there's is a anchor who also mispronounce's names from time to time.
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What??? You criticize an anchor, but you can't put together a grammatically correct sentence? ::) ::)
 
formeraa said:
captex said:
i noticed in austin there's is a anchor who also mispronounce's names from time to time.
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What??? You criticize an anchor, but you can't put together a grammatically correct sentence? ::) ::)
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In all fairness to captex, he's not on camera reporting the story to several hundred thousand people. We're not in English Class.
 
I guess the "younger" generation can dish it out, but NOT TAKE IT!!!

It's very hypocritical to critcize someone for mispronouncing a word, when you can't put together a correct sentence. If I were you, I would learn how to capitalize sentences and spell correctly before I criticized someone for making a mistake.

And, KPLEX, I didn't mention the Hispanic anchor who couldn't pronounce a word that originated in 17th century (not modern) Spanish. In fact, you don't even know whether Maria even speaks Spanish. We have an Hispanic anchor here in Phoenix who doesn't even speak Spanish. Stop making racial stereotypes.
 
Form:
The tragedy of this is that there are qualified experienced anchors out there who have paid their dues, and actually visited the towns being mis-pronounced, but they can't be hired because they are the wrong gender and or ethnicity.
An anchor getting a six figure salary for less than 30 minutes a day of face time on TV ought to splurge and buy a pronunciation guide, or at least put some time into preparing for the daily newscast.
 
Grant: "Former AA" is the type who calls anything and everything "racist" based on their narrow scope of the world.

FormerAA there was nothing racist about my previous remark,or current one. It was a "poke" at you and your absurd comments deflecting from the subject of the need for a pronounciation guide. In short, get over yourself and comprehend fully before responding.The Phoenix heat must be getting to you.
 
What is a pronounciation guide? Is it anything like a pronunciation guide? Or is that just Texas talk, like "nuke-u-ler"? :D
 
Well, people call it a "Bushism", but Bush isn't the first person I've heard say "nuke-u-ler", just the most prominent. To me, it's no different than JFK and the missle crisis in "Cuber". Or folks from "Bahstun" who have "PSDS". (If "yous" don't know what that means, "yous" can "ax" me.)

Then there was tonight on the radio, when I heard someone from Fox News refer to "Bro-ward" County, Florida. Oops. It's actually "Brou-ward" County, for those of you scoring at home.

Bottom line, anyone new to a market should inquire about unusual pronunciations of place names before going on the air, if possible. Unusual pronunciations are everywhere and associated with all ethnic groups.
 
dhett said:
Bottom line, anyone new to a market should inquire about unusual pronunciations of place names before going on the air, if possible. Unusual pronunciations are everywhere and associated with all ethnic groups.
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That should be standard procedure, but sometimes regional pronunciations are not that obvious. A good example in the news recently is the Johnson County community of Rio Vista, which most locals call RYE-uh Vista. Or Alvarado (AL-vuh-RAY-doh), which goes against the expected Spanish pronunciation. Then there's Sachse, Coppell and even Burleson that occasionally get "re-named" by radio and TV folks.

But one of our area's southern counties is continually mispronounced by many television anchors and weather people, some of whom have been in the market for many years. I was born in Corsicana, county seat Navarro (nuh-VARE-uh) County, named for Texas Revolutionary hero Jose Antonio Navarro. (Navarro proposed the name Corsicana in honor of the Mediterranean island of Corsica, birthplace of his parents.) I've heard Navarro County mispronounced as "Nuh-VARR-oh" on KDFW (attn: Evan Andrews), KXAS, WFAA and KTVT for years, and I'd suggest that the news directors at the stations tune in Corsicana's KAND 1340 or call the Corsicana Daily Sun for pointers.
 
Perhaps a campaign for PRONUNCIATION;) guides be made mandatory for all on air persons at all stations,most notably KTVT.
 
jd said:
That should be standard procedure, but sometimes regional pronunciations are not that obvious. A good example in the news recently is the Johnson County community of Rio Vista, which most locals call RYE-uh Vista. Or Alvarado (AL-vuh-RAY-doh), which goes against the expected Spanish pronunciation. Then there's Sachse, Coppell and even Burleson that occasionally get "re-named" by radio and TV folks.

But one of our area's southern counties is continually mispronounced by many television anchors and weather people, some of whom have been in the market for many years. I was born in Corsicana, county seat Navarro (nuh-VARE-uh) County, named for Texas Revolutionary hero Jose Antonio Navarro. (Navarro proposed the name Corsicana in honor of the Mediterranean island of Corsica, birthplace of his parents.) I've heard Navarro County mispronounced as "Nuh-VARR-oh" on KDFW (attn: Evan Andrews), KXAS, WFAA and KTVT for years, and I'd suggest that the news directors at the stations tune in Corsicana's KAND 1340 or call the Corsicana Daily Sun for pointers.
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That's probably the biggest reason: local pronunciations evolve away from the expected pronunciation.

Rio Vista should be REE-oh, Alvarado should be All-vah-RAH-do, and Navarro should be Nah-VAH-rroh (with the "R" trilled).

The same applies to the commonly mispronounced state of Nevada, which should be Nuh-VAH-dah, but is actually Nuh-VAD-uh. (Some Nevadans get really annoyed at hearing Nuh-VAH-dah.) In Illinois (maybe Arkansas too?) El Dorado is pronounced Duh-RAY-doh (I think it's a southern thing). Here in Arizona, Casa Grande is CASS-uh GRAND, and where I grew up near Rochester NY, the town of Chili is pronounced CHEYE-lye. (Chili was founded in 1824 and named in honor of the newly independent nation of Chile. I think something got lost in translation. BTW, Chile is CHEE-lay, not CHILL-ee. ;) )

Ah well, let he who is without sin among us cast the first stone...
 
It's really amazing how much does got "lost in the translation," like the west Texas town of Colorado City (Col-oh-RAY-do?), Bosque (BAH-skee) County (near Waco), and of course, the standard victims like Waxahachie and Mexia. KPLEX and I, having both worked in San Antonio, have cringed when newspeople mispronounce Bexar County.

Maybe I'm making a case for having a native (probably older!) Texan close by to provide a little guidance. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall the venerable Harold Taft ever butchering Texas town or county names. And although I haven't seen one in years, the last time I thumbed through a Texas Almanac it had a wonderful pronunciation guide for hundreds of towns in Texas. That might help, too.
 
I think if Harold Taft had misprounced the name of a town, the townsfolk might well have voted to change the pronunciation.
 
LOL true!
Yeah Maria did it again at Ch.11 today. She was reading a story about the Northern Ireland Politcal Party Sein Fein, which is pronounced SIn Fin according to the English/Gaelic guide. She pronounced it "Sean Fine"


Now on the Radio side..JD get ready for this. The Male KRLD anchor was talking about the severe weather in "Median" county.. ITs "Muh De Na" (Medina).. CBS spring for the Pronunciation guides now.
 
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