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CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13

gabigley1 said:
teched said:
From the Asset Purchase Agreement (attachment 5) of the Voluntary Assignment Application
BALH-20100630BQB
:

Seller shall not be authorized to use the words '101" or "101.1"
in any of its branding or business ventures after Closing;

Would this prevent CD101 from using the "CD101" part in their current "CD101 at 102.5" branding of the station after the sale of 101.1 to tOSU?

Sounds like it does, from the "in any of its branding" wording...note the "in".

Indeed, it was added to the contract, it would appear for the sole reason of legally preventing WWCD from hanging onto the 101 branding (presumably to avoid confusion, though PPM and the different formats would alleviate much of that).

Note that the "WWCD" calls are NOT included in the prohibition.
 
gabigley1 said:
OhioMediaWatch said:
Note that the "WWCD" calls are NOT included in the prohibition.

WCVZ 102.5 has an LMA with CD101 and it looks like WCVZ will not change call letters to WWCD any time soon.
http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.../call_hist.pl?Facility_id=61230&Callsign=WCVZ

So, any reference it uses to "WWCD" will not be it's legal call sign. Any ideas on how their new new top of the hour IDs will sound as of Monday
on 102.5? ???

Why do you assume they won't change calls just because its part of a LMA
 
gabigley1 said:
Allfirdup said:
Why do you assume they won't change calls just because its part of a LMA

It won't happen on Monday and ideally that would be the best time.

Not that it really matters, to anyone other than readers on this board, but im sure that the paperwork to change the calls was filled out long ago, and can be changed when they want, my guess would be either Monday or Wednesday.
 
gabigley, that link you put up means nothing. It is the current and historic calls of the facility.

Go here and put in the WWCD calls:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/callsign/mainch.pl

That's where you'll see the request. Right now, the only thing in there is the existing 101.1 facility, since that's the only thing that can be in there right now (the station exists).

Mr. Vaughan won't be able to change the calls on 102.5 until they're off 101.1, which they will be as soon as tOSU closes and takes over (they've already filed a "pending sale" request for WOSA).

So,

1) The 101.1 sale closes, and it becomes WOSA, as already requested.
2) That makes WWCD(FM) available.
3) WHIZ Media Group/Southeast Ohio Broadcasting files for the WWCD calls on 102.5, on behalf of its LMA operator, Fun With Radio/Roger Vaughan.

Any other speculation is just silly.
 
Basically, OhioMediaWatch is correct. WHIZ cannot use the WWCD calls until they're freed up when the sale closes and WOSU turns 101.1 into WOSA.

But...who's to say they can't still call WCVZ "CD102.5" even before changing calls? Which, on Monday would mean the legal sounds something like: "You're listening to CD102.5, WCVZ, Baltimore/Columbus".
 
Correct, TSMW, and in fact, the sales agreement will prohibit WWCD from using "101" or "101.1" after the sale of that frequency closes. Look it up, it's in the link in this thread.

So, when tOSU takes over the new WOSA - presumably on Wednesday, per all the reports and WOSU's own press release, give or take a lawyer or two or a broken pen - WWCD will be forced to convert to "CD102.5".

They can still relinquish 101.1 on Monday and still call themselves "CD101 @ 102.5" right up until 101.1's sale closes...which, given that WWCD's owner says they want to make the change "gently" for listeners, they will probably do, even though listeners won't even fnid alt-rock music on 101.1 on Monday.

The "gently" line comes courtesy of an August article in Columbus Business First, which has a lot of information we didn't have otherwise.

http://bizjournals.com/columbus/stories/2010/08/02/story12.html

“Our broadcast goal is to be everywhere and on all devices,” Fun With Radio owner Roger Vaughan said in an e-mail. “The simulcast is transitioning our listeners as gently as is possible to our new home. We think it’s working great so far.”

Look! This is back all the way from August! Roger wasn't abducted by aliens after al! :D

It even quotes WHIZ Media Group president Hank Littick, but note what both men don't answer:

WHIZ President Hank Littick said he thinks WWCD’s format is a better fit for the 102.5 signal, formerly occupied by country music station WCVZ. He declined to characterize his group’s partnership with Fun With Radio and Vaughan did not respond to the question.

Again, this is information that was out there in August. I have no idea why it didn't show up in a Google search before now. Maybe Google's ever-expanding indexing only now picked up Columbus Business First. Maybe Roger Vaughan paid off Google so we radio geeks wouldn't know the truth. ;)

The article repeats what was linked here in the FCC agreement:

But the WOSU agreement prohibits it from using the 101 or 101.1 name after the deal closes.

I found this article from an update posted by CBF on Friday.

http://bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2010/12/cd101-ready-to-complete-move-to-1025.html

Nothing we don't already have in this thread.

We could have saved Mr. Bigley a LOT of typing had we found this earlier. :D
 
Oops...here's the correct link for the FCC's Call Sign Query (for some reason, the direct link I gave does not work):

http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/callsign/main.html

Click on the "QUERY" button, put in WOSA, and you'll see this:

Call Sign WOSA is not available.
A request for WOSA dated 08/03/2010 has been filed.
NOTE: Our records don't contain the LICENSEE/PERMITTEE information about WOSA.
Please contact the FCC for assistance.

That's because the request wasn't filed by the licensee...it was filed by tOSU back in August, and a list out at the time noted it was pending its takeover of the current WWCD. Incoming licensees do this all the time, and each call sign change list usually has one or two of them.
 
Guess this has me unable to sleep. :D

Here it is, the WOSA request:

http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db1006/DOC-301859A1.txt

Call Signs Reserved for Pending Sales Applicants

Call Sign Service Requested By City State File-Number Former Call Sign

KAZH DT UNA VEZ MAS TEXAS HOLDINGS, LLC KATY TX BALCDT-20091229ACT KNWS-TV
KHKA AM BLOW UP, LLC HONOLULU HI 20100729ADF KUMU
WHMT AM COFFEE COUNTY B/CASTING, INC. TULLAHOMA TN BAL-20100819AAF WJIG
WOSA FM THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY GROVE CITY OH 20100630BQB WWCD
 
OhioMediaWatch said:
Correct, TSMW, and in fact, the sales agreement will prohibit WWCD from using "101" or "101.1" after the sale of that frequency closes. Look it up, it's in the link in this thread.

So, when tOSU takes over the new WOSA - presumably on Wednesday, per all the reports and WOSU's own press release, give or take a lawyer or two or a broken pen - WWCD will be forced to convert to "CD102.5".

They can still relinquish 101.1 on Monday and still call themselves "CD101 @ 102.5" right up until 101.1's sale closes...which, given that WWCD's owner says they want to make the change "gently" for listeners, they will probably do, even though listeners won't even fnid alt-rock music on 101.1 on Monday.

The "gently" line comes courtesy of an August article in Columbus Business First, which has a lot of information we didn't have otherwise.

http://bizjournals.com/columbus/stories/2010/08/02/story12.html

“Our broadcast goal is to be everywhere and on all devices,” Fun With Radio owner Roger Vaughan said in an e-mail. “The simulcast is transitioning our listeners as gently as is possible to our new home. We think it’s working great so far.”

Look! This is back all the way from August! Roger wasn't abducted by aliens after al! :D

It even quotes WHIZ Media Group president Hank Littick, but note what both men don't answer:

WHIZ President Hank Littick said he thinks WWCD’s format is a better fit for the 102.5 signal, formerly occupied by country music station WCVZ. He declined to characterize his group’s partnership with Fun With Radio and Vaughan did not respond to the question.

Again, this is information that was out there in August. I have no idea why it didn't show up in a Google search before now. Maybe Google's ever-expanding indexing only now picked up Columbus Business First. Maybe Roger Vaughan paid off Google so we radio geeks wouldn't know the truth. ;)

The article repeats what was linked here in the FCC agreement:

But the WOSU agreement prohibits it from using the 101 or 101.1 name after the deal closes.

I found this article from an update posted by CBF on Friday.

http://bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2010/12/cd101-ready-to-complete-move-to-1025.html

Nothing we don't already have in this thread.

We could have saved Mr. Bigley a LOT of typing had we found this earlier. :D

Duly noted. As I have said on Twitter...Columbus isn't necessarily in my normal sphere.
 
Same here, TSMW. Columbus is nominally in the OMW coverage area, but I tend to pick up only big stuff there...as we are Northeast Ohio based.
 
CD101 has signed off 101.1 without much fan fare...

at 12am in the middle of a spot block 101.1 went dead air and now is running a "loop" with the legal ID (101.1 WWCD Grove City /Columbus this was CD 101.. Cd101 has moved up the dial to 102.5 etc..)
 
I heard their stream late last night, after midnight.

They are still calling themselves "CD101 @ 102.5", but did note on the air that they were now EXCLUSIVELY on 102.5, and the 1:00 AM legal ID only had WCVZ/Baltimore in it.

I'm just guessing here, but they're probably using the next few days to get the 101.1 processing/STL to 102.5, and it may not happen until tOSU is operating 101.1.
 
OhioMediaWatch said:
I heard their stream late last night, after midnight.

They are still calling themselves "CD101 @ 102.5", but did note on the air that they were now EXCLUSIVELY on 102.5, and the 1:00 AM legal ID only had WCVZ/Baltimore in it.

I'm just guessing here, but they're probably using the next few days to get the 101.1 processing/STL to 102.5, and it may not happen until tOSU is operating 101.1.

A comment on their facebook page from 'cd101" to a complainer indicated that they can not move their processor to the 102.5 site until OSU takes over.
 
Via Ohio Media Watch:
Guess this has me unable to sleep. :D

Here it is, the WOSA request:

http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db1006/DOC-301859A1.txt

Call Signs Reserved for Pending Sales Applicants


Didn't know there was such a list on the FCC site... Thanks for sharing.

Here is some more info on the changes in store for WOSU-FM and the tOSU Classical Music radio network:

http://www.portsmouth-dailytimes.co...ng-to-all-NPR-station?instance=home_news_lead

Via the article:

"On Jan. 6, WOSU 89.7 FM will switch from a
service offering classical music and news to become central Ohio’s only all-day NPR news station on FM radio."


I Looks like the dust will settle on or shortly after Jan 6, 2010.

xiradiodotcom said:
102.5 still sounds like crap. Hope this isn't the final audio processing.

Lets hope so but it's not very encouraging because they let this bad audio quality go on for almost six months. You would think they(CD101) would want to make a positive first impression during a signal upgrade. This reminds me when WVKO-AM signed on Progressive Talk three years
ago under Gary Richards. They also had very poor audio quality on that station for at least several months. One similarity is that they were/are both LMAs. ::)
 
xmusicmatt said:
A comment on their facebook page from 'cd101" to a complainer indicated that they can not move their processor to the 102.5 site until OSU takes over.

Ah, my guess turns out to be correct. :D

gabigley1 said:
Looks like the dust will settle on or shortly after Jan 6, 2010.

Er, 2011 ;) (I do that, too!)

That date came up elsewhere, I think in the "Classical 101" press release last week.

gabigley1 said:
Lets hope so but it's not very encouraging because they let this bad audio quality go on for almost six months. You would think they(CD101) would want to make a positive first impression during a signal upgrade. This reminds me when WVKO-AM signed on Progressive Talk three years
ago under Gary Richards. They also had very poor audio quality on that station for at least several months. One similarity is that they were/are both LMAs. ::)

As noted above, it looks like they think they can't move the processing until tOSU takes over 101.1. I don't know all the logistics, but I'd have beefed up the sound on 102.5 before switching over, so people would PREFER it rather than being forced into it (what if someone tunes into "CD101 @ 102.5", not like what they hear, and give up on the new frequency until there's no old frequency?).

Then again, this is the same bunch which is squeezing every last minute out of the historic "CD101" branding, literally. So, I don't know. Maybe they have some old CD101 bumper stickers they have to give out before Wednesday.
 
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