CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13

[Nu_Roo_2]

Notice how the initial replies to the blog announcement are about reception - static, "won't be able to listen anymore," etc.  I was wondering about this.  This is not a joyous event for many listeners.  It's really sad that Columbus is so under-radioed in good signals -- which of course is a big part of what gets me so frustrated about how 93.3's rare top-notch signal continues to be wasted on a poorly-performing, duplicative format after what..7 years...when there are major, highly-performing formats completely absent locally.

 

[gabigley1]

And speaking of which:

Also as a side note.. The web guys at CD101 @ 102.5 still got some work to do on their website.. There are still way to many 'refs' to 101.1 FM on their website.. including their web stream player that has no mention of 102.5 on it.

The sale contract requires them to stop using "101" and "101.1" now that the sale has closed, but I bet they will still use "CD101 @ 102.5" on the air as long as tOSU lets them get away with it. Again, no real listener overlap worries due to the format.

The dust from the WWCD, WCVZ, and WOSU-FM transformations has not settled yet and besides, we still have the upcoming holidays. WOSA
at 101.1 FM is running at low power while that make adjustments and upgrades to their transmitter site. Also, being that WOSA 101.1 had a soft
lunch yesterday, they may not be too concerned about WWCD continuing to use "101" and "101.1" at this time. They will probably ask them
to stop using it after the first of the year when they are ready to make an issue of this.

It looks like WWCD 102.5 doesn't want to let go of "101" if they can help it because they are afraid of annihilating their established listener base
from the last twenty years or so. CD'101' also seems to be inseparable from WWCD and it's established listener base. No wonder WWCD dose not
want to give it up.

 

[Nu_Roo_2]

It looks like WWCD 102.5 doesn't want to let go of "101" if they can help it because they are afraid of annihilating their established listener base
from the last twenty years or so. CD'101' also seems to be inseparable from WWCD and it's established listener base. No wonder WWCD dose not
want to give it up.

CD101 also rolls off the tongue better and lends itself to nicer graphics than CD102.5. Still, I can't see it making much sense for them to hold onto that moniker much longer, even if OSU gives them a pass to do so.

 

[xiradiodotcom]

WOSA
at 101.1 FM is running at low power while that make adjustments and upgrades to their transmitter site. Also, being that WOSA 101.1 had a soft
lunch yesterday, they may not be too concerned about WWCD continuing to use "101" and "101.1" at this time.

They were loud and clear on 101.1 around 6:30am today as I drove east down Home Rd toward 315. The quiet nature of classical music will expose even the slightest static. They were even better than 102.5, which surprised me. When did the low power start?

 

[gabigley1]

They were loud and clear on 101.1 around 6:30am today as I drove east down Home Rd toward 315. The quiet nature of classical music will expose even the slightest static. They were even better than 102.5, which surprised me. When did the low power start?

They may be at Full Power now but I was told there is still some work to do at their transmitter site for the next few weeks.

CD101 also rolls off the tongue better and lends itself to nicer graphics than CD102.5. Still, I can't see it making much sense for them to hold onto that moniker much longer, even if OSU gives them a pass to do so.

tOSU isn't going to allow that. Why would they allow it? Why would they want to be associated with WWCD, CD101 in any way shape or form? ???

 

[xmusicmatt]

They may be at Full Power now but I was told there is still some work to do at their transmitter site for the next few weeks.

I give WOSU major props for the launch of this format. They did well .. I even enjoyed Boyce's comment about "having people in the studio for once and it wasn't someone else asking you for money" shows they know how to humor. OSU's presentation of classical music has always been top notch in my opinion and unlike other public insts that seem to be shying away from it they are committed to the community and format!

I thought the launch was great!

I would not be surprised if WOSU does not do major work to the 101.1 Physical plant. I would think that the transmitter that WWCD was running is likely the org that they signed on with in the early 90s.

WOSU was one of the first pub casters to adopt both HDTV and IBOC (What people call HD Radio) so I would expect some upgrades to the plant.

 

[xmusicmatt]

Audio processing hasn't changed and they are still using CD101 like crazy in IDs and ads.

And their web site is still littered with mentions of CD101.1 FM! even .. including their web player.. for not wanting to rid of 101.1 they sure went off air sliently on sunday night.. not even a mention on air of good bye they went from song, to imager to a commerical break and during that commerical break they dropped to dead air and then to the recorded loop to move to 102.5.

Don't get me wrong, I like CD102.5's music however, there seems to be a disconnect within the ranks there to why they dropped the ball on some things like the website and so forth in terms of the frequency move which we knew was coming months ago.

My only fear is that with the changes they have made over the years that some of their loyal listeners seem pretty outspoken about on their facebook about that these little things they are kinda dropping the ball on might further create discomfort with their loyal fans.

 

[gabigley1]

One problem. The call letters are still WCVZ... listed as such in the FCC database. BIG TIME FAIL.

I would not be surprised that it's just a case of the FCC online database lagging behind reality. It's happened before. For one, the Call Sign Query for WOSA is not attached to the former WWCD facility yet, and we know that moved over with the closing of the 101.1 sale.

I wonder if "CD101 @ 102.5" will EVER go away as branding?

I ask this because somewhere on their FB page, an engineer for the station says they are "not changing" their name. Maybe they got tOSU to ignore that provision in the sale agreement to dump 101/101.1 in the branding, arguing (as I've suggested here) that there's very little overlap between the two stations' audiences? That's just a guess on my part.

If they do change to "CD102.5" at some point, maybe they are waiting until after the Andyman-a-thon. I can see where they'd want to hang onto "CD101" for that reason.

As of today, The FCC database for WOSA now has the call sign WOSA attached to the former WWCD 101.1 facility.
Click here for this:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.../call_hist.pl?Facility_id=28644&Callsign=WWCD

And the Dec 14 closing date of this sale is here:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/app_det.pl?Application_id=1379124

But, WCVZ may be using the 'WWCD' calls in error because they have yet to be assigned to the 102.5 facility. The FCC data doesn't even show them even applying for the WWCD call sign. Click for their current FCC calls: http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.../call_hist.pl?Facility_id=61230&Callsign=WCVZ

As far as them "not changing" their name from "CD101 @ 102.5", I doubt tOSU will allow this after January 1, 2010. It's in the contact of sale and tOSU calls their new radio station on 101.1 Classical101 . There is a reason they defiantly want to keep the number '101' all to themselves and tOSU has the attorneys to enforce the contact if they want to.

This is getting very interesting! :

 

[OhioMediaWatch]

gabigley, they have indeed now applied for WWCD for the 102.5 frequency - they being, of course, 102.5's licensee, Southeastern Ohio Broadcasting System (WHIZ Media Group):

A request for WWCD dated 12/16/2010 has been filed
by SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC..
Our records contain the following address(es) for above requester(s):
REQUESTED CALL SIGN WWCD
LICENSEE/PERMITTEE SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC.
MAILING ADDRESS 629 DOWNARD ROAD
CONTINUED ADDRESS
CITY ZANESVILLE STATE OH ZIP 43701-

Go here:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/callsign/main.html

Click the "QUERY" button and put "WWCD" in, and it'll tell the story.

As noted several times, the FCC's online database could not yet reflect reality. They could have gotten authorization to use WWCD already, but it's not online yet. I doubt the FCC is going to care if they're using the calls a couple of days early.

 

[Tri-State Media]

gabigley, they have indeed now applied for WWCD for the 102.5 frequency - they being, of course, 102.5's licensee, Southeastern Ohio Broadcasting System (WHIZ Media Group):

A request for WWCD dated 12/16/2010 has been filed
by SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC..
Our records contain the following address(es) for above requester(s):
REQUESTED CALL SIGN WWCD
LICENSEE/PERMITTEE SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC.
MAILING ADDRESS 629 DOWNARD ROAD
CONTINUED ADDRESS
CITY ZANESVILLE STATE OH ZIP 43701-

Go here:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/callsign/main.html

Click the "QUERY" button and put "WWCD" in, and it'll tell the story.

As noted several times, the FCC's online database could not yet reflect reality. They could have gotten authorization to use WWCD already, but it's not online yet. I doubt the FCC is going to care if they're using the calls a couple of days early.

Given that the calls are now available, and this has been filed as a request, no the FCC probably WON'T care barring the request being denied. If it's denied (which I highly doubt will occur), then yes, the FCC will likely levy some sort of punishment on WHIZ Media. Again, I highly doubt the FCC will deny it, in fact as noted it may already be approved and that could be online today (Friday). But I expect no later than January 3, 102.5 will LEGALLY be WWCD.

 

[gabigley1]

If they do change to "CD102.5" at some point, maybe they are waiting until after the Andyman-a-thon. I can see where they'd want to hang onto "CD101" for that reason.

Speaking of the Andyman-a-thon, here is a post on it and photograph of Andy at his Andyman-a-thon :

http://www.donewaiting.com/2010/12/15/andyman-a-thon-starts-friday/

Here is the current ad 'CD101 at 102.5' is running in the weekly paper for the Andyman-a-thon. Note, there is still a reference to '101' on the add:

http://raelovzyou.tumblr.com/post/2345477383/the-18th-annual-andyman-a-thon-kicks-off-today

 

[gabigley1]

gabigley, they have indeed now applied for WWCD for the 102.5 frequency - they being, of course, 102.5's licensee, Southeastern Ohio Broadcasting System (WHIZ Media Group):

A request for WWCD dated 12/16/2010 has been filed
by SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC..
Our records contain the following address(es) for above requester(s):
REQUESTED CALL SIGN WWCD
LICENSEE/PERMITTEE SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC.
MAILING ADDRESS 629 DOWNARD ROAD
CONTINUED ADDRESS
CITY ZANESVILLE STATE OH ZIP 43701-

Go here:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/callsign/main.html

Click the "QUERY" button and put "WWCD" in, and it'll tell the story.

As noted several times, the FCC's online database could not yet reflect reality. They could have gotten authorization to use WWCD already, but it's not online yet. I doubt the FCC is going to care if they're using the calls a couple of days early.

Given that the calls are now available, and this has been filed as a request, no the FCC probably WON'T care barring the request being denied. If it's denied (which I highly doubt will occur), then yes, the FCC will likely levy some sort of punishment on WHIZ Media. Again, I highly doubt the FCC will deny it, in fact as noted it may already be approved and that could be online today (Friday). But I expect no later than January 3, 102.5 will LEGALLY be WWCD.

This is what an Qualified FCC Counseling Engineer has to say about this:

"It is not legal, unless they are still doing the "legal ID" with the licensed call letters. It takes about 7 business days to get a change through."

Not sure how the FCC would view this situation but it certainly isn't right because they are not using their licensed call letters during their "legal ID". I've never heard of a radio station using
call letters that weren't legally assigned to them by the FCC during their "legal ID".

 

[gabigley1]

It looks like WWCD 102.5 doesn't want to let go of "101" if they can help it because they are afraid of annihilating their established listener base
from the last twenty years or so. CD'101' also seems to be inseparable from WWCD and it's established listener base. No wonder WWCD dose not
want to give it up.

CD101 also rolls off the tongue better and lends itself to nicer graphics than CD102.5. Still, I can't see it making much sense for them to hold onto that moniker much longer, even if OSU gives them a pass to do so.

Here are some photos from today's [email protected] Andyman-A-Thon. Note, they have yet to let
use of the giant 101 banner:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150363719065161&set=a.10150363719025161.589606.119863140160#!/photo.php?fbid=10150363719065161&set=a.10150363719025161.589606.119863140160&pid=16143847&id=119863140160

Andrea Cambern, news anchor on WBNS TV, had this to say last night after a Andyman-A-Thon news video report:

"To listen to the Andyman-A-Thon, tune your radios to 102.5, the new CD101."

She listens to the station and want her viewers to know where to catch the the new CD101.

 

[OhioMediaWatch]

If they don't change from "CD101" after the Andyman-a-thon, I will ask them directly. I posted a message on their Facebook page, but haven't gotten an answer, and I suspect they are quite busy right now (good for them!!!).

It's that news anchor's message that is their problem. "CD101 @ 102.5 FM" is unwieldy, no matter their long attachment. They are no longer on 101.1, and new listeners have to take the extra step to forget the old location AND remember the new location.

I don't run the place, though.

As for the legality of the WWCD legal ID on 102.5, they could well be throwing in a quick "WCVZ Baltimore" elsewhere, and that can be their legal ID, no? And the FCC would have no problem with the "extra" currently-not-on-the-license WWCD Baltimore, particularly since they are in the process of changing to it.

 

[Tri-State Media]

gabigley, they have indeed now applied for WWCD for the 102.5 frequency - they being, of course, 102.5's licensee, Southeastern Ohio Broadcasting System (WHIZ Media Group):

A request for WWCD dated 12/16/2010 has been filed
by SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC..
Our records contain the following address(es) for above requester(s):
REQUESTED CALL SIGN WWCD
LICENSEE/PERMITTEE SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC.
MAILING ADDRESS 629 DOWNARD ROAD
CONTINUED ADDRESS
CITY ZANESVILLE STATE OH ZIP 43701-

Go here:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/callsign/main.html

Click the "QUERY" button and put "WWCD" in, and it'll tell the story.

As noted several times, the FCC's online database could not yet reflect reality. They could have gotten authorization to use WWCD already, but it's not online yet. I doubt the FCC is going to care if they're using the calls a couple of days early.

Given that the calls are now available, and this has been filed as a request, no the FCC probably WON'T care barring the request being denied. If it's denied (which I highly doubt will occur), then yes, the FCC will likely levy some sort of punishment on WHIZ Media. Again, I highly doubt the FCC will deny it, in fact as noted it may already be approved and that could be online today (Friday). But I expect no later than January 3, 102.5 will LEGALLY be WWCD.

This is what an Qualified FCC Counseling Engineer has to say about this:

"It is not legal, unless they are still doing the "legal ID" with the licensed call letters. It takes about 7 business days to get a change through."

Not sure how the FCC would view this situation but it certainly isn't right because they are not using their licensed call letters during their "legal ID". I've never heard of a radio station using
call letters that weren't legally assigned to them by the FCC during their "legal ID".

No, it's not legal, you're right. BUT, given the request being filed, I don't see how the FCC will levy a punishment... unless, as I stated before, the request is actually flat denied. Which probably won't happen.

 

[Rusty Muck]

gabigley, they have indeed now applied for WWCD for the 102.5 frequency - they being, of course, 102.5's licensee, Southeastern Ohio Broadcasting System (WHIZ Media Group):

A request for WWCD dated 12/16/2010 has been filed
by SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC..
Our records contain the following address(es) for above requester(s):
REQUESTED CALL SIGN WWCD
LICENSEE/PERMITTEE SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC.
MAILING ADDRESS 629 DOWNARD ROAD
CONTINUED ADDRESS
CITY ZANESVILLE STATE OH ZIP 43701-

Go here:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/callsign/main.html

Click the "QUERY" button and put "WWCD" in, and it'll tell the story.

As noted several times, the FCC's online database could not yet reflect reality. They could have gotten authorization to use WWCD already, but it's not online yet. I doubt the FCC is going to care if they're using the calls a couple of days early.

Given that the calls are now available, and this has been filed as a request, no the FCC probably WON'T care barring the request being denied. If it's denied (which I highly doubt will occur), then yes, the FCC will likely levy some sort of punishment on WHIZ Media. Again, I highly doubt the FCC will deny it, in fact as noted it may already be approved and that could be online today (Friday). But I expect no later than January 3, 102.5 will LEGALLY be WWCD.

This is what an Qualified FCC Counseling Engineer has to say about this:

"It is not legal, unless they are still doing the "legal ID" with the licensed call letters. It takes about 7 business days to get a change through."

Not sure how the FCC would view this situation but it certainly isn't right because they are not using their licensed call letters during their "legal ID". I've never heard of a radio station using
call letters that weren't legally assigned to them by the FCC during their "legal ID".

No, it's not legal, you're right. BUT, given the request being filed, I don't see how the FCC will levy a punishment... unless, as I stated before, the request is actually flat denied. Which probably won't happen.

Does anyone know if such a refusal has happened in those circumstances?

I still stand by my assertion that this a BIG TIME FAIL. Anyone with an inkling of common sense knows this is NOT how you handle a frequency change one bit. From their website, to promos, to this botched call sign change (I would argue that Mr. Vaughn should be fined and not WHIZ - I'm pretty sure that WHIZ would not use an unofficial callsign for weeks... or months...), WWCD has done everything the wrong way. Period.

If they get legal action taken against them by tOSU by their ignoring of a clear stipulation in the sale agreement to rid themselves of "101" and "101.1", I'm sorry, but I won't be shedding any tears over that. As the old saying goes, ignorance of the law is no excuse. Mr. Vaughn had months to look at the sale agreement and go, "Hmm... 'CD101' has to go! How about that?"

 

[OhioMediaWatch]

For all we know, Mr. Vaughan has an official letter from the FCC in his hands saying WHIZ Media Group (and as a result, he, as LMA operator) can call 102.5 WWCD until it shows up in the database...which, as I frequently remind folks, often lags behind reality.

We can't check right now, anyway. The entire FCC website is down, with just a temporary note that "scheduled building maintenance" will take down the various online databases until Monday, except for a couple of emergency databases which are being maintained at a different site.

And as a result, stuff that was due Friday will be accepted Monday:

http://www.fcc.gov/DOC-303692A1.pdf

As for the "101" thing, maybe they have a separate, new agreement with tOSU to keep using "CD101 @ 102.5 FM" that supercedes the notice in the sale agreement. As I've also said repeatedly in this thread, maybe WOSU relented because there is almost no overlap between the two formats. (OK, maybe there are two or three people in all of Columbus who listen to both alt-rock and classical...)

 

[dawg4life]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that CD101 @ 102.5 is insulting the intelligence of their listening audience by not calling themselves CD102.5?

 

[Rusty Muck]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that CD101 @ 102.5 is insulting the intelligence of their listening audience by not calling themselves CD102.5?

They should have started calling themselves "CD102.5" back in September. I can understand attachment to a long-time branding, but this borders on somewhere between ridiculous and scary. I have never heard of a station keeping an obsolete brand after a frequency switch before, let alone something as absurd as this (and bear in mind the near-comical Cleveland format/frequency swap of 2001 affected many long-time and historic brandings, but the stations involved manned up and changed them).

"CD102.5" or "CD102" - heck, even "CD102 1/2!" - would all work. It's as if the station is run by rank amateurs now.

 

[Nu_Roo_2]

It appears WWCD is making a run at topping the absurdity of WLZT 93.3's limp and pointless me-too AC format.  But that's gonna be a tough one given 93.3's 5++ year head start.  CD10-whatever's already clinched runner-up, though, and in record time.  Apparently they really covet that booby-prize.