cyberdad said:
Joe was having fun. Radio was a hobby for him.
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Chicago gets another alt rock outlet -- Q101.com goes to WJJG 1530
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Joe was having fun. Radio was a hobby for him.
I never heard Joe's show. I heard terrible talk shows, and what sounded like infomercials being played on an old Emerson cassette deck with dirty heads. ??? I do recall hearing promos and spots with Joe's voice that were folksy, but good. The weekend oldies show seemed to have a loyal following.
To be clear, I wasn't knocking Joe in the slightest. Frankly, I'd like to see owner/operators like him serving local communities. My comments pertain strictly to the fact the number of advertisers....and hence revenue...seemed to be minimal.
But think of what Joe (and current management) was/is up against. Numerous "big time" local signals and talent. Plus your own high dial position signal is not only weak, but it's also subject to getting trashed by a 50,000 flamethrower relatively close by.
And Joe was a great listen. Cornball, opinionated, caustic, and "Lord-knows-what-he'll-say-or-do-next." When you're the boss, you can get away with anything (at least so long as its legal).
It sure made for a clear and refreshing contrast from the computerized, rigid, formula stuff from the big sticks.
But think of what Joe (and current management) was/is up against. Numerous "big time" local signals and talent. Plus your own high dial position signal is not only weak, but it's also subject to getting trashed by a 50,000 flamethrower relatively close by.
And Joe was a great listen. Cornball, opinionated, caustic, and "Lord-knows-what-he'll-say-or-do-next." When you're the boss, you can get away with anything (at least so long as its legal).
It sure made for a clear and refreshing contrast from the computerized, rigid, formula stuff from the big sticks.
cyberdad said:
Joe certainly was a good listen. Much much better than all the canned robotic programming we get now.
Joe was genuine, and not at all interested in changing to fit whims of the moment.
I miss him, and the comfortable pace the station had when he was around.
It was the difference between a folksy, slow down, general-store feeling vs the rush of a "convenience store" experience.
Apparently we Chicagoans will just prefer the blander prepackaged product rather than make our own.
I would hope something better than "music programmed from elswhere" is eventually offered.
Even if I'm eating a prepackaged cheeseburger, I might at least like it cooked and assembled right there at the moment,
by a human. Having it pre-cooked, frozen, shipped, and then I'm supposed to nuke it is hardly the same thing or experience.
I miss him, and the comfortable pace the station had when he was around.
It was the difference between a folksy, slow down, general-store feeling vs the rush of a "convenience store" experience.
Apparently we Chicagoans will just prefer the blander prepackaged product rather than make our own.
I would hope something better than "music programmed from elswhere" is eventually offered.
Even if I'm eating a prepackaged cheeseburger, I might at least like it cooked and assembled right there at the moment,
by a human. Having it pre-cooked, frozen, shipped, and then I'm supposed to nuke it is hardly the same thing or experience.
Unfortunately we'll probably never see that home town kind of radio again.
I'm with you all. Joe did a shoot from the heart show. He was polite, folksy, had strong opinions on things, unlike others like Rush, Sean, Mancow, Eddie and the rest, I actually think he was saying what he felt, not what one side or the other wants to hear.
The "Hometown Station" branding fit Joe well. I read on one of those other Chicago sites, I think it was the blue one that hurts my eyes, that this would still make a good local station, I would agree. Trying to parade as a full Chicago station will never work.
If the owners are listening send me a message, I've handled stations with worse signals and did well. I would be happy to come back
to Chicago and run it for you. You don't even have to pay me, just give me a share of the money I make on sales ;D ;D
The "Hometown Station" branding fit Joe well. I read on one of those other Chicago sites, I think it was the blue one that hurts my eyes, that this would still make a good local station, I would agree. Trying to parade as a full Chicago station will never work.
If the owners are listening send me a message, I've handled stations with worse signals and did well. I would be happy to come back
to Chicago and run it for you. You don't even have to pay me, just give me a share of the money I make on sales ;D ;D
You make a very good point. Trying to be like so many other stations won't work. The hometown idea is a good one, but you need people like Joe to pull it off.Going back to Nashville said:
howardm said:
Has talk returned to WJJG? Or, is it still simulcasting Q101.com? Can anyone confirm?
I'm not there now, I can't confirm what they are playing now.
I did listen to Mike Baker on the internet and they dumped him. His final show was last weekend. What a loss.
I did listen to Mike Baker on the internet and they dumped him. His final show was last weekend. What a loss.
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/dxing/notes.html has this line-up for 1530--Mancow 'til 10; Q101 10am-5pm; Savage 5pm-sign off.
Wright County Guy said:
Not sure that's correct anymore. Any time I've tried to stream them during the day, it's been talk of some kind. Usually Savage or Mancow.
Again, I ask... how is Matt making money with this?
stereolane said:
Frankly, about the only way I could see anything good coming out of this is if he offers something that FM stations wouldn't touch with a 20' pole! This could - but does not necessarily have to - include offering music by local artists (KKSN Vancouver WA [Partland OR] does this albeit it is a simulcast of an HD2 signal) http://www.947.fm/; a free form approach similar to WBZH in Pottstown PA http://www.wbzh.net/ or something similar.
This may sound crazy to many people, but how about Rock & Roll oldies from the 50s & early 60s on AM where they were originally heard?
I realize this isn't the most desirable demo to say the least, but nobody else is doing it. If you run it with a computer and no DJs it would cost very little to do.
I realize this isn't the most desirable demo to say the least, but nobody else is doing it. If you run it with a computer and no DJs it would cost very little to do.
radioman148 said:
CFZM/740. Toronto.
A 50kw non-directional AM station with a monster signal and a condition of licence that it serve an over 50 demo. The result is mostly music, mostly vintage top 40, and mostly live and local (with automated music overnights).
Much as I'm usually opposed to government mandates, the Canadians may be on to something here. Acting on the premise that the airwaves actually belong to the public and not corporate conglomerates, licences can be allocated on the basis of seeing to it that no population segment gets neglected. Thus, the terms and conditions of your licence...and what you agree to when granted...probably won't get you top ratings or top revenues. But if you're a good operator you can find a profitable niche in which to operate. In the case of CFZM, the tadeoff for agreeing to accept specific terms, was an upgrade from suburban rimshot to big signal (when the CBC vacated it for FM).
I think WIND/560 might be perfect for this type of approach...and it has a "heritage" in this type of programming to boot. But, of course, it'll never happen under Salem management.
Just about every "Graffiti-Gold" station that ever signed on is gone. Don't get me wrong. I like the format so long as it's done right. I might suggest combining the following genres with early rock-era oldies: surf rock, R&B oldies from about the same period and a bit after and possibly "Carolina 'Beach music'".radioman148 said:
Not only 560 WIND would be a good spot for this, but 1160 (the old WJJD) where Rock & Roll was first played in Chicago would be good.
Salem wouldn't do it, but could the ratings on 1160 be any lower than they are right now?
Salem wouldn't do it, but could the ratings on 1160 be any lower than they are right now?
I don't think Salem really cares about ratings....at least from the standpoint of selecting formats for their stations. I view them as a religious broadcaster. Their main agenda....at least as it seems to me....is to advance their religious and political views.
Sidebar point....I agree that a CFMZ-type format would be equally appropriate on 1160. Or for that matter a "classic WLS" weekend evening time slot on WLS-AM. They've already got Biondi in the house to host it.
Never happen, however.
Sidebar point....I agree that a CFMZ-type format would be equally appropriate on 1160. Or for that matter a "classic WLS" weekend evening time slot on WLS-AM. They've already got Biondi in the house to host it.
Never happen, however.
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