Conservative Talk Radio on the Wane in California (Los Angeles Times Hit Piece)

[4UH8SIMBKAGN]

Once again the Los Angeles Times upholds its tradition of slanting the news, partial truths and outright left wing lies. This is a total lying hit piece on California conservative talk radio. Interesting that this is published after a week that John & Ken have raked the L.A. Times over the coals for not covering their tax revolt that attracted 15,000 people on 3/7 in Fullerton.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-talkradio15-2009mar15,0,39114.story

I think Michael Finnegan forgot these facts, among others:

KFI REPLACED John Ziegler with Kennedy and Suits. No local talkshow time was lost.
KABC has expanded Doug McIntyre's show to 5 hours from 4.
KOGO has added local host Chip Franklin to mornings from WBAL in Baltimore in a shift that was all news but now is talk and news.
KSTE Sacramento had its best ratings book in history (Fall 2008) moving 4.3 to 5.5 to place second of all Sacramento stations beaten only by sister news/talk KFBK, the perennial leader in Sacramento. The two, alone, command an incredible and record 13.2 share of Sacramento radio. Salem talk KTKZ had it's best ratings book ever. Even KSFO from San Francisco in the Sacramento ratings doubled.
KFI climbed to a 4.3 share in the January PPM. It's highest in over a year and rates as the #3 station in Los Angeles. The article failed to included John & Ken's KFI cume from the San Bernardino-Riverside PPM, Ventura-Oxnard and San Diego ratings.
KOGO had higher ratings in the Fall 2008 book than it did in the previous Fall book. It's Winter 2009 P1 ratings are also higher than the Winter P1 2008 ratings report. It rates as the #2 station in San Diego.
KSFO's ratings were up 10% in January 2009 just 0.1 of a point less than it's highest rating in the last year.

The SCBA announced that automotive advertising in Los Angeles radio was down 2/3 in January 2009. Cutbacks in advertising and jobs, due to the economy, has hit radio, tv and yes, even newspapers. I guess we couldn't tell that by how thin the Sunday Los Angeles has become. They even have dropped the local news section, the California section. If you follow www.laobserved.com almost every single week there are job layoffs reported at the Los Angeles Times. Those circulation numbers at the Los Angeles Times have only been pointing one way, south. Now, I guess, they shouldn't do anything like file by bankruptcy? Oh, that's right, they already did.

I hope the rumor that Rupert Murdoch wants the Los Angeles Times is true. We'll finally get some "fair and balanced" truth in a Los Angeles newspaper. Wouldn't that be great, for once.

 

[smedge2006]

KOGO has added local host Chip Franklin to mornings from WBAL in Baltimore in a shift that was all news but now is talk and news.

... and you're saying no KOGO staffers were canned as a result.

The ratings you cite were driven by the national election. The point of the article is that conservative talk no longer has as much potential to influence local and state issues, because so much of the content has gone syndicated.

Part of this is conservative talk radio's own fault, for attacking localism regulations as a "stealth Fairness Doctrine." If they ever went into effect, local conservative hosts would likely be the prime beneficiaries, under the law of unintended consequences. If I were a laid-off conservative talk host, I'd be taking a second look at the Dems rhetoric on localism and saying "Hmmm... maybe not such a bad idea."

By the way, the conservative newspapers (Daily Oklahoman, Omaha World-Herald, etc.) are ALSO seeing circulation, advertising and payroll drops. Murdoch basically has been subsidizing the NY Post for years, waiting for competitors to drop out. He's not a youngster, and it would surprise me if his eventual successors at Newscorp shared his infatuation with acquiring ink and trees to promote a conservative worldview.

 

[radioman148]

Re: Conservative Talk Radio on the Wane in California (Los Angeles Times Hit Pie

Once again the Los Angeles Times upholds its tradition of slanting the news, partial truths and outright left wing lies. This is a total lying hit piece on California conservative talk radio. Interesting that this is published after a week that John & Ken have raked the L.A. Times over the coals for not covering their tax revolt that attracted 15,000 people on 3/7 in Fullerton.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-talkradio15-2009mar15,0,39114.story

I think Michael Finnegan forgot these facts, among others:

KFI REPLACED John Ziegler with Kennedy and Suits. No local talkshow time was lost.
KABC has expanded Doug McIntyre's show to 5 hours from 4.
KOGO has added local host Chip Franklin to mornings from WBAL in Baltimore in a shift that was all news but now is talk and news.
KSTE Sacramento had its best ratings book in history (Fall 2008) moving 4.3 to 5.5 to place second of all Sacramento stations beaten only by sister news/talk KFBK, the perennial leader in Sacramento. The two, alone, command an incredible and record 13.2 share of Sacramento radio. Salem talk KTKZ had it's best ratings book ever. Even KSFO from San Francisco in the Sacramento ratings doubled.
KFI climbed to a 4.3 share in the January PPM. It's highest in over a year and rates as the #3 station in Los Angeles. The article failed to included John & Ken's KFI cume from the San Bernardino-Riverside PPM, Ventura-Oxnard and San Diego ratings.
KOGO had higher ratings in the Fall 2008 book than it did in the previous Fall book. It's Winter 2009 P1 ratings are also higher than the Winter P1 2008 ratings report. It rates as the #2 station in San Diego.
KSFO's ratings were up 10% in January 2009 just 0.1 of a point less than it's highest rating in the last year.

The SCBA announced that automotive advertising in Los Angeles radio was down 2/3 in January 2009. Cutbacks in advertising and jobs, due to the economy, has hit radio, tv and yes, even newspapers. I guess we couldn't tell that by how thin the Sunday Los Angeles has become. They even have dropped the local news section, the California section. If you follow www.laobserved.com almost every single week there are job layoffs reported at the Los Angeles Times. Those circulation numbers at the Los Angeles Times have only been pointing one way, south. Now, I guess, they shouldn't do anything like file by bankruptcy? Oh, that's right, they already did.

I hope the rumor that Rupert Murdoch wants the Los Angeles Times is true. We'll finally get some "fair and balanced" truth in a Los Angeles newspaper. Wouldn't that be great, for once.

Is the LA Times as close to being bankrupt as the New York times is?

 

[ChannelFlipper]

Once again the Los Angeles Times upholds its tradition of slanting the news, partial truths and outright left wing lies. This is a total lying hit piece on California conservative talk radio. Interesting that this is published after a week that John & Ken have raked the L.A. Times over the coals for not covering their tax revolt that attracted 15,000 people on 3/7 in Fullerton.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-talkradio15-2009mar15,0,39114.story

I think Michael Finnegan forgot these facts, among others:

KFI REPLACED John Ziegler with Kennedy and Suits. No local talkshow time was lost.
KABC has expanded Doug McIntyre's show to 5 hours from 4.
KOGO has added local host Chip Franklin to mornings from WBAL in Baltimore in a shift that was all news but now is talk and news.
KSTE Sacramento had its best ratings book in history (Fall 2008) moving 4.3 to 5.5 to place second of all Sacramento stations beaten only by sister news/talk KFBK, the perennial leader in Sacramento. The two, alone, command an incredible and record 13.2 share of Sacramento radio. Salem talk KTKZ had it's best ratings book ever. Even KSFO from San Francisco in the Sacramento ratings doubled.
KFI climbed to a 4.3 share in the January PPM. It's highest in over a year and rates as the #3 station in Los Angeles. The article failed to included John & Ken's KFI cume from the San Bernardino-Riverside PPM, Ventura-Oxnard and San Diego ratings.
KOGO had higher ratings in the Fall 2008 book than it did in the previous Fall book. It's Winter 2009 P1 ratings are also higher than the Winter P1 2008 ratings report. It rates as the #2 station in San Diego.
KSFO's ratings were up 10% in January 2009 just 0.1 of a point less than it's highest rating in the last year.

The SCBA announced that automotive advertising in Los Angeles radio was down 2/3 in January 2009. Cutbacks in advertising and jobs, due to the economy, has hit radio, tv and yes, even newspapers. I guess we couldn't tell that by how thin the Sunday Los Angeles has become. They even have dropped the local news section, the California section. If you follow www.laobserved.com almost every single week there are job layoffs reported at the Los Angeles Times. Those circulation numbers at the Los Angeles Times have only been pointing one way, south. Now, I guess, they shouldn't do anything like file by bankruptcy? Oh, that's right, they already did.

I hope the rumor that Rupert Murdoch wants the Los Angeles Times is true. We'll finally get some "fair and balanced" truth in a Los Angeles newspaper. Wouldn't that be great, for once.

The LA Times saves its most biased, left-wing, yellow journalism for Sundays I believe for two reasons (1) that is the day of their highest circulation (relatively speaking of course!) and (2) because they are not true news stories, but prepared hit pieces, they can be written, edited, re-written, and re-spun if necessary within a large time before the edit deadline.

In this particular case I am sure they are quite proud of themselves. Since the national story has been all about Rush Limbaugh and right wing radio on a national level, they decided that they would do a story that doesn't mention Rush at all but focuses on alleged "failures" of local right-wing talk radio. See - "a local angle on the national story, but with a twist!" - How clever!

Well, they should do this for as long as they can because guess what? At this rate KFI, John and Ken, and many other talk show hosts will be there when the Times publishes its last. I was looking for the circulation figures in the Times in today's edition to see just how far down they have come. Guess what? Not there. The Times used to proudly publish them right on the masthead at the top of the paper. Now if there printed anywhere, you have to look for them - I couldn't find 'em.

Talk radio has its ratings measured every month and is doing quite fine thank you. Rush is having a banner year and the Tea Parties that are taking place all over the country (that the Times doesn't see fit to cover) and the success of John and Ken show that Right-wing radio is just as influential as ever. In fact the Times knows this and it presents a direct threat to them and that is why they were on the front page today with this bogus and largely untrue story.

 

[radioman148]

Re: Conservative Talk Radio on the Wane in California (Los Angeles Times Hit Pie

>>Talk radio has its ratings measured every month and is doing quite fine thank you. Rush is having a banner year and the Tea Parties that are taking place all over the country (that the Times doesn't see fit to cover) and the success of John and Ken show that Right-wing radio is just as influential as ever. In fact the Times knows this and it presents a direct threat to them and that is why they were on the front page today with this bogus and largely untrue story>>

Sounds like the LA times & NY times have everything in common.

 

[Stewy]

The huge con is ending, slowly and painfully but ending non-the-less. The far right voices will of course continue but only on the margin. There will always be people who can't think well for themselves and will therefore need the authoritarianism offered by the far right. Just like the con, the Rushes will limp forward because some will always fall for it ....... until a majority forget, and the Rushes (new names) roll back up, again. It's a cycle folks, stay on top of the wave or drown under it.

 

[4UH8SIMBKAGN]

Re: Conservative Talk Radio on the Wane in California (Los Angeles Times Hit Pie

Once again the Los Angeles Times upholds its tradition of slanting the news, partial truths and outright left wing lies. This is a total lying hit piece on California conservative talk radio. Interesting that this is published after a week that John & Ken have raked the L.A. Times over the coals for not covering their tax revolt that attracted 15,000 people on 3/7 in Fullerton.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-talkradio15-2009mar15,0,39114.story

I think Michael Finnegan forgot these facts, among others:

KFI REPLACED John Ziegler with Kennedy and Suits. No local talkshow time was lost.
KABC has expanded Doug McIntyre's show to 5 hours from 4.
KOGO has added local host Chip Franklin to mornings from WBAL in Baltimore in a shift that was all news but now is talk and news.
KSTE Sacramento had its best ratings book in history (Fall 2008) moving 4.3 to 5.5 to place second of all Sacramento stations beaten only by sister news/talk KFBK, the perennial leader in Sacramento. The two, alone, command an incredible and record 13.2 share of Sacramento radio. Salem talk KTKZ had it's best ratings book ever. Even KSFO from San Francisco in the Sacramento ratings doubled.
KFI climbed to a 4.3 share in the January PPM. It's highest in over a year and rates as the #3 station in Los Angeles. The article failed to included John & Ken's KFI cume from the San Bernardino-Riverside PPM, Ventura-Oxnard and San Diego ratings.
KOGO had higher ratings in the Fall 2008 book than it did in the previous Fall book. It's Winter 2009 P1 ratings are also higher than the Winter P1 2008 ratings report. It rates as the #2 station in San Diego.
KSFO's ratings were up 10% in January 2009 just 0.1 of a point less than it's highest rating in the last year.

The SCBA announced that automotive advertising in Los Angeles radio was down 2/3 in January 2009. Cutbacks in advertising and jobs, due to the economy, has hit radio, tv and yes, even newspapers. I guess we couldn't tell that by how thin the Sunday Los Angeles has become. They even have dropped the local news section, the California section. If you follow www.laobserved.com almost every single week there are job layoffs reported at the Los Angeles Times. Those circulation numbers at the Los Angeles Times have only been pointing one way, south. Now, I guess, they shouldn't do anything like file by bankruptcy? Oh, that's right, they already did.

I hope the rumor that Rupert Murdoch wants the Los Angeles Times is true. We'll finally get some "fair and balanced" truth in a Los Angeles newspaper. Wouldn't that be great, for once.

Is the LA Times as close to being bankrupt as the New York times is?

Tribune, the parent company of the Los Angeles Times, is already in Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization. The will likely sell assets, if they can get a decent price for them, as they reorganize. A couple of interested parties have either come forward or are rumored to be interested in the Los Angeles Times, including Rupert Murdoch. Rupert Murdoch's right hand man, Peter Chernin, recently decided not to renew his contract that ends in June likely because Murdoch is focusing on purchasing newspapers as he did with the Wall St. Journal. I'm not sure that is a wise move for Fox. They had to take quite a writedown on the WSJ.

Cablevision purchased New York Newsday from Tribune when the sale to Sam Zell was completed. It's hurt Cablevision http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/27/technology/companies/27cable.html?dbk

 

[mred]

Murdoc paid 5.6 bil for WSJ and wrote it down by half--most media has taken hit, businesses that advertise have contracted and gone to the net.

KSFO was getting great ad revenue during the dot com boom, for employment and image ads etc. now most of that is on the net. Back to baldness, sex disfunction, and colon cleanse ads, I guess. Look at housing builder ads, car ads, etc.

Does J and K still do Rock Honda ads? Ayeres Hotel? maybe not as much as in the past. And look at all the mortgage ads that have dried up for practically every one.

911, Afganistan, Iraq was good for talk radio as well.

A lot of conservotalk stations are all sydicated now, some people get national issues from TV or the net and tune to radio for state and local issues, so localism would help conservative talk hosts the most.

 

[4UH8SIMBKAGN]

KOGO has added local host Chip Franklin to mornings from WBAL in Baltimore in a shift that was all news but now is talk and news.

... and you're saying no KOGO staffers were canned as a result.

The ratings you cite were driven by the national election. The point of the article is that conservative talk no longer has as much potential to influence local and state issues, because so much of the content has gone syndicated.

Part of this is conservative talk radio's own fault, for attacking localism regulations as a "stealth Fairness Doctrine." If they ever went into effect, local conservative hosts would likely be the prime beneficiaries, under the law of unintended consequences. If I were a laid-off conservative talk host, I'd be taking a second look at the Dems rhetoric on localism and saying "Hmmm... maybe not such a bad idea."

By the way, the conservative newspapers (Daily Oklahoman, Omaha World-Herald, etc.) are ALSO seeing circulation, advertising and payroll drops. Murdoch basically has been subsidizing the NY Post for years, waiting for competitors to drop out. He's not a youngster, and it would surprise me if his eventual successors at Newscorp shared his infatuation with acquiring ink and trees to promote a conservative worldview.

I did not post about newspapers. I'd be happy to post the circulation results from the most liberal newspapers. I can't find ONE that is increasing in circulation and most are in nose-dives in both circulation and advertising. Just today the Tucson Citizen, a Gannett liberal newspaper, called it quits after 138 years. Saturday, March 21 is their final day.That follows the death of the (Denver) Rocky Mountain News less than two weeks ago. Hearst has said if they can't get costs down, they'll shut down the San Francisco Chronicle. One of a number of liberal newspapers that likely will shut down this year. Maybe you should read this article. It lists the 10 most likely papers to close. ALL are liberal. http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1883785,00.html?iid=tsmodule

You also need to read the ratings for conservative talk radio. It's on an upswing and I certainly do not only post results from the election which was the FIRST week of November, 1/2 way through the fall book. I already posted some of the results just from California including January 2009 PPM results. So, there is no death of conservative talk radio. It's only GROWING bigger, faster and stronger. I suggest you learn to read. Just don't go to a Los Angeles Unified School district school or you never will be able to. Maybe that answers the question of why you didn't read the results I posted correctly.

You might also check out Fox News Channel's ratings since the election. They've taken off. Glenn Beck's new show at 2 PM PDT, is an incredible ratings winner. Already 3rd of all cable news shows and possibly may move into second place.

Obama and the Democrats mess that they have made with the economy and lives of Americans (and having them removed from office in 2 and 4 years) is great business for all things conservative in the media. But first, we've got a May 19th election to defeat all of RINO Schwarzenegger's Taxifornia propositions.

 

[4UH8SIMBKAGN]

Murdoc paid 5.6 bil for WSJ and wrote it down by half--most media has taken hit, businesses that advertise have contracted and gone to the net.

KSFO was getting great ad revenue during the dot com boom, for employment and image ads etc. now most of that is on the net. Back to baldness, sex disfunction, and colon cleanse ads, I guess. Look at housing builder ads, car ads, etc.

Does J and K still do Rock Honda ads? Ayeres Hotel? maybe not as much as in the past. And look at all the mortgage ads that have dried up for practically every one.

911, Afganistan, Iraq was good for talk radio as well.

A lot of conservotalk stations are all sydicated now, some people get national issues from TV or the net and tune to radio for state and local issues, so localism would help conservative talk hosts the most.

Why don't you post about what other stations - any format- are getting as far as automotive buys? Read the SCBA report. SoCal auto advertising is down 2/3 for ALL stations, not any particular format. There aren't many stations out there that are getting gains in advertising no matter what the format.

Ratings are up for conservative talk radio and there are plenty of local hosts (and it certainly would be great to see even more). KFI has not cut back on anything local weekdays. KABC runs 9 hours (plus one for Dodger talk) of local talk. KRLA has two hours of local talk.

 

[flakunkel]

Re: Conservative Talk Radio on the Wane in California (Los Angeles Times Hit Pie

Is the LA Times as close to being bankrupt as the New York times is?

The LA Times IS bankrupt. It's owned by Tribune Co., now in Chapter 11.

 

[radioman148]

Re: Conservative Talk Radio on the Wane in California (Los Angeles Times Hit Pie

Is the LA Times as close to being bankrupt as the New York times is?

The LA Times IS bankrupt. It's owned by Tribune Co., now in Chapter 11.

Any rumored buyers besides Rupert Murdoch?

 

[4UH8SIMBKAGN]

John & Ken are discussing the article right now. First item today. John & Ken claim 1.1 million listeners in a total week week in January with documentation (430,000 listeners more than the Los Angeles Times claims). February numbers are significantly higher. Just as I posted, the Los Angeles Times isn't counting their numbers from other areas outside of Los Angeles and Orange Counties.

The Los Angeles Times has lost 40% of its subscribers. Half the newsroom staff has been fired, down to 600.

They are demanding a correction in tomorrows newspaper as it damages their reputation, advertising and branding.

KFI sells regional and national ads based on area wide ratings not based on just Los Angeles & Orange County ratings.

 

[4UH8SIMBKAGN]

Re: Conservative Talk Radio on the Wane in California (Los Angeles Times Hit Pie

Is the LA Times as close to being bankrupt as the New York times is?

The LA Times IS bankrupt. It's owned by Tribune Co., now in Chapter 11.

Any rumored buyers besides Rupert Murdoch?

David Geffen. Ronald Burkle (owns a large stake in Whole Foods...sold Ralphs Markets to Kroger...big supporter of Bill Clinton). Other local groups.

 

[XRQKFM]

Re: Conservative Talk Radio on the Wane in California (Los Angeles Times Hit Pie

Re:Conservative Talk Radio on the Wane in California

Try telling that to Central California broadcasters; KNZR 1560 Bakersfield, is on the top of its game now that it has Glen Beck & Rush, five hours of local talk in the afternoon. KERN Bakersfield now with its 50,000 watt blowtorch on 1180, and one of the best AM signals in northern LA County next to KFI would seriously disagree with the L.A. Times assessment. Both stations have coverage well into Southern California; unless your radio is a piece of junk!

The L.A. Times is barely suitable for birdcage liner.


Steve
www.outlawradio.us
Do It Yourself Broadcasting

 

[SuperRadioFan]

Re: Conservative Talk Radio on the Wane in California (Los Angeles Times Hit Pie

The L.A. Times is barely suitable for birdcage liner.

But only if that bird is of the liberal persuation ;D

 

[4UH8SIMBKAGN]

Re: Conservative Talk Radio on the Wane in California (Los Angeles Times Hit Pie

The L.A. Times is barely suitable for birdcage liner.

But only if that bird is of the liberal persuation ;D

That would be a Cuckoo bird. No offense to the bird.

 

[Marv-L.A.]

Country Aircheck publisher Lon Helton recently reported that N/T had overtaken country last summer as the most-listened to format in the USA.

Another reason not to trust the LAT for accuracy, huh?

 

[4UH8SIMBKAGN]

John & Ken are going to dissect the Los Angeles Times article in the 5 PM hour. Should be fun.

 

[BC_714]

;D Once again some on here prove what nut jobs they are ;D The republican party has become the party of the angry white guy. The reality is that that the party needs to change and become more inclusive to minorities or else they will keep losing elections. Conservative talk radio is still much more powerful than Liberal radio, but they have a niche audience. It doesn't translate to having any effect on national elections. Rush and Hannity are powerhouses, but others like Savage and Lars Larson are at the bottom of the barrell of talk radio. The religious right has high-jacked the republican party. The american people have figuered out that the republicans and conservative talkers are just obstructionists. If they had any real influence then McCain and Palin would be in the White House. Just the thought makes me cringe. John & Ken didn't even have any influence on the local scene. Last I checked republicans caved in Sacramento and we're getting a tax-hike on April 1st. Conservative radio is just entertainment and nothing more and yes it is on the wane.