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Continued "lies" can't kill it. Sorry guys. HD Radio passes one million

SUPERCASTER said:
According to the usually reliable list of AM HD stations maintained by Barry McLarnon KFYI DOES NOT broadcast HD Radio signals at night.
Link:
http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html

I just perused the "AM HD Club" [above] to tally its latest number of members and was FLOORED to find that 720 KOTZ Kotzebue, Alaska has joined the AM HD "brotherhood" :eek: BTW, check out some studio pics taken there during production of the Goo Goo Dolls' "Live in Alaska" music video ...INTERESTING STATION!

For those in the mood for a geography lesson, Kotzebue is a town of about 3000, overwhelmingly made up of Inupiat natives, 33-miles north of the Arctic Circle. It has long-fascinated me... As has KOTZ since I began "enjoying" its live audio stream online in late 2007. You have to listen to this station to fully-appreciate the head-scratching you'll be giving yourself over WHY a desolate 10kw station sitting atop the tundra would be interested in the [in]capabilities of iBiquity's AM science fair project [especially, since they don't carry the "Coast To Coast AM" program] :D

Shazaam! ...I think I have it figured out! Given the extraordinary hearing capabilities of the common Caribou herd, I'll bet KOTZ decided to crank out all that offensive buzz 'n hash to keep the curious animals away from their elevated AM ground system.

FINALLY – a reasonable application for AM IBOC ;D
 
Again...if the coroner must return year after year to AGAIN pronounce the patient "dead", he was likely less "dead" than proclaimed during year one. Or two. Or three. Or four.

Try finding a good home theater receiver (high-end model, not a 200 dollar cheapie) without HD. It's so common now that Sound and Vision counts off points for it's exclusion!

But my ideal radio doesn't include JUST HD! I'd go freaking crazy! It would include internet radio, like my Revo Blik (which makes a great component tuner, by the way...through the RCA outs the sound is quite good), be able to stream from Rhapsody (I'm a longtime subscriber), be able to stream podcasts without downloading (my Revo can do that), and hell...why not throw in XM rection as well for good measure? If you check, it's not that hard to find components now that do ALL THAT! Admittedly, if the so-called "Wi-Max" becomes a real thing covering most of the country, it may well become the preferred method of delivering digital radio away from home. Internet radio certainly has much to recommend it for stationary listeners now...not the least of which is occasionally spectacular sound quality (from the few stations that care enough to stream at a high bitrate). Check out the high bitrate RealAudio stream of my oldies show, for instance http://www.theproductionroom.net/latestshow.ram
 
Mike Walker said:
Try finding a good home theater receiver (high-end model, not a 200 dollar cheapie) without HD. It's so common now that Sound and Vision counts off points for it's exclusion!

My personal experience at several big-box retailers and a specialty store say you're wrong. I looked at nothing under $800, and NONE of them had HD. NONE.
 
A case in point are the Yamaha receivers. None of the HTR Series has HD Radio and not until you get to the RX-V3900, an $1800.00 receiver, will you find it.

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/avreceivers.html?CTID=5000200

This is, at best, a tepid endorsement for HD Radio from one of the largest and best CE manufacturers in the world.

As an amusing aside, all of the Yamaha receivers are described as having "HD audio." Can you say confusing the consumer here? Ibiquity committed a major branding blunder when they named their technology "HD" at a time when HDTV was coming on the scene.

C5
 
I know it's been pointed out here before, but, a million unit's? Is this really a big milestone? There are almost 3 million
people in Chicago alone. That is ONE city in this country. There are over 300,000,000 million people in this country. After
the years of hype, is this really something to brag about? If you do the calculations, that is less than 0.3% of the country.
To be fair, I bought an HD receiver about 2 years ago, and with the exception of one or two HD-2 or 3 stations, there is
nothing on, that is compelling enough for a non-radio type person to even be interested in, even if they knew these
"stations" were on the air.

I would also like to mention that AM HD has probably annoyed more than 0.3% of the country with the way it steps all
over first and second adjacent channels, not to mention the way it destroys the sound of the station that is broadcasting
it.

It is funny that when WRTO AM 1200 here in Chicago had their HD of for a couple of days, I was able to pick up a 900 watt
AM 1180 WSQR, which comes from the DeKalb area. Once the HD went back on at 10,000 watt AM 1200, WSQR's signal was
no longer audible. I would have enjoyed being able to listen to this station due to the fact that WCGO AM 1600 signed off
last Friday. This leads to another point, content. Of all the FM stations in Chicago that broadcast in HD, guess how many
are broadcasting a format close to what WCGO offered(Timeless Favorites)? You guessed it none. They could capitalize
on a group of people who don't have a station to listen too, mostly an older audience who would be willing to shell out
money for an HD radio to hear the music they enjoy, yet they keep targeting groups of people who could care less about
HD. They have no reason too.
 
TR1992 said:
I would also like to mention that AM HD has probably annoyed more than 0.3% of the country with the way it steps all
over first and second adjacent channels, not to mention the way it destroys the sound of the station that is broadcasting
it.

I submit that perhaps 0.3% of technical minded people that understand the changes in radio probably know that is it HD which is causing all the noise, there are probably another 29.70% of people who are annoyed with IBOC in the country with the way it steps all over first and second adjacent channels, not to mention the way it destroys the sound of the station that is broadcasting it and..... don't have any idea what it is, and how good analog AM can sound, they probably just chalk it up to that "lousy" sounding noisy AM band not realizing it has been getting worse and worse by self inflicted wounds from the big boys like BZ OR FAN, ABC etc. who really couldn't care less about anyone but themselves, don't care who they step on or who they ruin, such is the state the FCC has allowed AM radio to come to by not doing any rigorous testing of this lead balloon of a science fair technology but not inviting any competition, probably got some kind of no bid contract for it behind closed doors, HD in every tank!.
 
KB10KL, I think you said it much better than I did. I wasn't even thinking about the amount of people who hear all the
extra noise on AM, and just assume that AM sounds bad, not knowing that a lot of that noise and interference is being
caused by IBOC.
 
Mike Walker said:
Again...if the coroner must return year after year to AGAIN pronounce the patient "dead", he was likely less "dead" than proclaimed during year one. Or two. Or three. Or four.=

This reminds me of an old buddy Rich joke who was not always the easiest man to play with and there are legions of story's about him: After he died one of the musicians who used to play for him called up his widow and asked to speak to buddy, the widow replied I'm sorry but buddy passed on last week whereupon the musician said well OK, thank you.

The next week he called the widow again and substantially said the same thing, the widow said I'm sorry but Buddy has passed on, he again thanked her and hung up.

The third week the same guy calls up his widow and again asks to speak to Buddy, the widow says aren't you the same guy who called here last week and the week before? I've already told you that Buddy is dead so why do you keep calling?
The musician replys, because it just sounds so good when you say he's dead.

I think we just like to say HD's dead 1, because it's true and 2, because it just sounds so nice to say it.
 
KB1OKL said:
...The widow says aren't you the same guy who called here last week and the week before? I've already told you that Buddy is dead so why do you keep calling? The musician replys, because it just sounds so good when you say he's dead.

I think we just like to say HD's dead 1, because it's true and 2, because it just sounds so nice to say it.

But the Eskimos in Kotztebue are listening to AM "HD" - or is it the Caribous, KB :D
 
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