...my current county of residence, La Crosse, Wisconsin, has no less than six TV stations licensed to a city within it -- WKBT/8 (CBS), WXOW/19 (ABC), WLAX/25 (Fox), WHLA-TV/31 (PBS), W44BF/44 (TBN) and W67CH/67 (NBC) -- but no television transmitter sites within it. WKBT's is in Galesville, in Trempeleau County, and all the rest are in La Crescent, Minnesota, across the Mississippi River from La Crosse. I'm curious as to how many other counties in the U.S. have this situation?...
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Counties with Cities of License but no transmitter sites?
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The majority of towers for Louisville are in Floyd County, Indiana...about 10 miles northwest of
the city. WAVE-3 has their stick northeast of the city...but still across the Ohio River in Indiana.
There are several rimshots with towers in KY...but I don't believe anything actually licensed to
Louisville broadcasts from Jefferson County, KY.
the city. WAVE-3 has their stick northeast of the city...but still across the Ohio River in Indiana.
There are several rimshots with towers in KY...but I don't believe anything actually licensed to
Louisville broadcasts from Jefferson County, KY.
WPXA 14 (ION), Licensed to Rome, GA (Floyd County) has it's transmitter in Bartow County (Above Lake Allatoona). Studios in Marietta (Cobb County).
WHSG 63 (TBN), Licensed to Monroe (Walton County), has it's transmitter in Atlanta (Fulton County) and Studios in Decatur (Dekalb County)
WGTV 8 (GPB/PBS) is Licensed to Athens (Clarke County) but has it's transmitter atop Stone Mountain (Dekalb County, 50 miles west of Athens). Studios in Midtown Atlanta that feeds the 9 station GPB network (most of the other stations actually have thir transmitters in or near their COL).
WUVG 34 (Univision) Licensed to Athens, Transmitter in Hall County, Studios in Atlanta.
WATC 57 (Independent Religious) Licensed to Atlanta (Fulton County), Transmitter on Sweat Mountain (Cobb County), studios in Norcross (Gwinnett County)
While some Atlanta stations have their transmitters in DeKalb County, the city limits of Atlanta goes through 3 counties (Fulton, Dekalb, and Clayton).
All you have to do is put a Grade A (city grade) signal into your COL and you are fine.
WHSG 63 (TBN), Licensed to Monroe (Walton County), has it's transmitter in Atlanta (Fulton County) and Studios in Decatur (Dekalb County)
WGTV 8 (GPB/PBS) is Licensed to Athens (Clarke County) but has it's transmitter atop Stone Mountain (Dekalb County, 50 miles west of Athens). Studios in Midtown Atlanta that feeds the 9 station GPB network (most of the other stations actually have thir transmitters in or near their COL).
WUVG 34 (Univision) Licensed to Athens, Transmitter in Hall County, Studios in Atlanta.
WATC 57 (Independent Religious) Licensed to Atlanta (Fulton County), Transmitter on Sweat Mountain (Cobb County), studios in Norcross (Gwinnett County)
While some Atlanta stations have their transmitters in DeKalb County, the city limits of Atlanta goes through 3 counties (Fulton, Dekalb, and Clayton).
All you have to do is put a Grade A (city grade) signal into your COL and you are fine.
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I don't believe my county, Abbeville County(SC) has a single TV station licensed to it.
All we've got is one AM and one FM licensed to the city of Abbeville(not co owned).. and ONE application for an FM translator, also in Abbeville......
All we've got is one AM and one FM licensed to the city of Abbeville(not co owned).. and ONE application for an FM translator, also in Abbeville......
Sorry I know this is off topic:
Paul congrats.. I see the title and Im glad your'e doing well.
Have a great one..
Paul congrats.. I see the title and Im glad your'e doing well.
Have a great one..
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PaulBWalkerJr
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lilburncommunityradio....
*blushes*.. thanks... i've got some big plans for this place eventually.
Ironically, as Im sure y'all guessed.. I work at the only Commercial AM in the county lol
You should come by and say hello if you ever come this way from Atlanta..
*blushes*.. thanks... i've got some big plans for this place eventually.
Ironically, as Im sure y'all guessed.. I work at the only Commercial AM in the county lol
You should come by and say hello if you ever come this way from Atlanta..
WAVE is actually on the Kentucky side of the border, albeit a good distance north and east from Louisville, outside Jefferson County.
Two VERY big counties with licensed TV stations but no transmitter sites: Orange County, California, whose KDOC 56 and KOCE 50 both call Mount Wilson home these days, if memory serves, and Denver County, Colorado, whose TV sites are up on Lookout Mountain in Jefferson County.
When analog TV goes away, you can add Suffolk County (Boston), Mass., since the TV transmitters for most of its stations are in Newton, Middlesex County and Needham, which I think is across the line in Norfolk County. WBPX 68 has its analog site on the Prudential Tower in Boston, but DTV is in Newton; WMFP 62 (licensed to Lawrence, Essex Co.) has analog on One Beacon Street in Boston, with DTV out in Newton as well.
Then there's New Castle County, Delaware, whose TV stations (WHYY 12 and WPPX 61 Wilmington) are across the state line in Roxborough, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania.
I don't recall off the top of my head which county the Shoreview transmitter site in Minneapolis/St. Paul is actually in, but I want to say it's Ramsey (St. Paul), which would mean no TV sites in Hennepin (Minneapolis), either.
Pretty much any big metro area with a TV tower farm will yield counties with COLs but no tx sites, come to think of it. The Miami tower farm's on the Miami-Dade County side of the line, I think, so no TV towers in Broward County (Fort Lauderdale), for instance. Ditto the Cedar Hill farm in Dallas-Fort Worth - it's in Dallas County, with no TV towers in Tarrant County (Fort Worth). On a smaller scale, there's Schenectady, NY, whose TV stations are in the Helderbergs antenna farm across the line in Albany County.
Two VERY big counties with licensed TV stations but no transmitter sites: Orange County, California, whose KDOC 56 and KOCE 50 both call Mount Wilson home these days, if memory serves, and Denver County, Colorado, whose TV sites are up on Lookout Mountain in Jefferson County.
When analog TV goes away, you can add Suffolk County (Boston), Mass., since the TV transmitters for most of its stations are in Newton, Middlesex County and Needham, which I think is across the line in Norfolk County. WBPX 68 has its analog site on the Prudential Tower in Boston, but DTV is in Newton; WMFP 62 (licensed to Lawrence, Essex Co.) has analog on One Beacon Street in Boston, with DTV out in Newton as well.
Then there's New Castle County, Delaware, whose TV stations (WHYY 12 and WPPX 61 Wilmington) are across the state line in Roxborough, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania.
I don't recall off the top of my head which county the Shoreview transmitter site in Minneapolis/St. Paul is actually in, but I want to say it's Ramsey (St. Paul), which would mean no TV sites in Hennepin (Minneapolis), either.
Pretty much any big metro area with a TV tower farm will yield counties with COLs but no tx sites, come to think of it. The Miami tower farm's on the Miami-Dade County side of the line, I think, so no TV towers in Broward County (Fort Lauderdale), for instance. Ditto the Cedar Hill farm in Dallas-Fort Worth - it's in Dallas County, with no TV towers in Tarrant County (Fort Worth). On a smaller scale, there's Schenectady, NY, whose TV stations are in the Helderbergs antenna farm across the line in Albany County.
Also, Alameda County (Oakland) CA, whose KTVU 2 transmits from Sutro Tower in San Francisco city and county. The 66 that's licensed to Vallejo (Solano County) also transmits from Sutro. Then there's San Joaquin County (Stockton) CA, whose KOVR 13 and KQCA 58 transmit from the Walnut Grove tower farm that's just over the line in Sacramento County, and Stanislaus County (Modesto) CA, whose KUVS 19 is in Calaveras County, to the east.
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KML0224
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For many years, WMTW-TV (ABC) channel 8 of Poland Spring, ME had their transmitter on Mount Washington, NH. Today it's in Baldwin, ME. Not sure if that's in Cumberland County (Portland) or not.
WUVP is licensed to Vineland (Cumberland County) NJ, but the transmitter site is shared with WNJS-TV in Waterford Works, Camden County (two counties away).
In Virginia, cities are completely independent of any county, so most of the TV transmitters are in different jurisdictions. In Hampton Roads, TV stations licensed to Norfolk, Va. Beach, Hampton, and Portsmouth are all located in the City of Suffolk (not in a county) which has no TV stations licensed to them. Roanoke and Lynchburg stations are in Roanoke (no relation to the city) and Bedford counties. The city of Richmond does have two of it's TV station's transmitters located within the city (WTVR and WWBT), but the others are in Chesterfield County, except for WUPV, which is licensed to Ashland in Hanover County, but the TX is in King and Queen County. The lone Harrisonburg station has its TX not only outside the city but also outside the DMA in Sheandoah Co (DC DMA). All the Charlottesville stations are on Carter Mt. in Albemarle Co.
JeeperOne
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Hi everyone:
Not only that, but the studios are in Denver County as well (In fact, except for KWGN 2, they are all within WALKING distance of each other). Even the Spanish stations (Except for Telemundo O&O KDEN 25) are also in Denver.
That said though, I think ION O&O KPXC 59 broadcasts from another location if I'm correct.
As for Digital TV towers atop Lookout Mountain, there will be one (Authorized and ordered by President George W. Bush himself I might add), despite the resistence to it (That's what got the attention of the White House). A group of them plan to band together to build one tower which all the stations in that group can broadcast from.
Just a clarification
Cheers
But Denver is really the exception rather the rule as because contrary to popular belief, Denver is also ITS OWN county as well.Scott Fybush said:
Not only that, but the studios are in Denver County as well (In fact, except for KWGN 2, they are all within WALKING distance of each other). Even the Spanish stations (Except for Telemundo O&O KDEN 25) are also in Denver.
That said though, I think ION O&O KPXC 59 broadcasts from another location if I'm correct.
As for Digital TV towers atop Lookout Mountain, there will be one (Authorized and ordered by President George W. Bush himself I might add), despite the resistence to it (That's what got the attention of the White House). A group of them plan to band together to build one tower which all the stations in that group can broadcast from.
Just a clarification
Cheers
Nope. KOVR and KQCA are licensed to Stockton, and Stockton only. So they do, in fact, meet the rather pointless terms of this exercise.
And Suffolk County is not, in fact, coterminous with the city of Boston. It also includes Chelsea, Revere and Winthrop.
(Not that it matters much; counties in Massachusetts no longer have any governmental function.)
And Suffolk County is not, in fact, coterminous with the city of Boston. It also includes Chelsea, Revere and Winthrop.
(Not that it matters much; counties in Massachusetts no longer have any governmental function.)
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You mentioned the city of Denver being in it's own county of the same name. This also happens with Philadelphia.
Vigo County, IN (Terre Haute market) will be without any functioning TV towers soon. Right now WTWO and WFXW broadcast from a site at the WTWO studio at Farmersburg, in Sullivan County. WTHI has built a new tower just across Highway 41 from the WTWO studio and may be using that facility now - I know their DTV is on that tower.
I think Vanderburgh County, IN (Evansville) may be in the same position. I know WEHT 25 broadcasts from the Kentucky side of the river, and I think 14 and 7 do as well, but I'm not sure which towers are theirs.
I think Vanderburgh County, IN (Evansville) may be in the same position. I know WEHT 25 broadcasts from the Kentucky side of the river, and I think 14 and 7 do as well, but I'm not sure which towers are theirs.
WTHI has been broadcasting from Farmersburg, across from WTWO's studio/transmitter, for years and years and years now. The tower behind the WTHI studio downtown has only WTHI-FM on it. WFXW, though it shares studio and master control with WTWO, doesn't use the tower out back. It has its own tower, about half a mile to the south on the same side of the road.
And yes, Evansville/Vanderburgh County is a good example - none of the towers are in town. 25's tower is at its studio site in Kentucky. 14 and 44 are on towers nearby, along with many of the FMs in the market. 7 and 9 are near Chandler, Indiana, across the Warrick County line.
Indiana's full of counties with COLs and no transmitters: WTTK-29 is licensed to Kokomo, Howard County, but transmits from Windfall, Tipton County. WNDY-23 is licensed to Marion, Grant County but transmits from Noblesville, Hamilton County. WINM-63 is licensed to Angola, Steuben County, but transmits from just over the Ohio line. WSJV-28 is licensed to Elkhart, Elkhart County, but transmits from near Mishawaka, St. Joseph County. WLFI-18 is licensed to Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, but transmits from Rossville, Clinton County. WKOI-43 is licensed to Richmond, Wayne County, but transmits from near Oxford, Ohio. And if WYIN-56 ever gets to go DTV-only from the Sears Tower, both stations licensed to Gary, Lake County would then be transmitting from Chicago in Cook County, Illinois.
And yes, Evansville/Vanderburgh County is a good example - none of the towers are in town. 25's tower is at its studio site in Kentucky. 14 and 44 are on towers nearby, along with many of the FMs in the market. 7 and 9 are near Chandler, Indiana, across the Warrick County line.
Indiana's full of counties with COLs and no transmitters: WTTK-29 is licensed to Kokomo, Howard County, but transmits from Windfall, Tipton County. WNDY-23 is licensed to Marion, Grant County but transmits from Noblesville, Hamilton County. WINM-63 is licensed to Angola, Steuben County, but transmits from just over the Ohio line. WSJV-28 is licensed to Elkhart, Elkhart County, but transmits from near Mishawaka, St. Joseph County. WLFI-18 is licensed to Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, but transmits from Rossville, Clinton County. WKOI-43 is licensed to Richmond, Wayne County, but transmits from near Oxford, Ohio. And if WYIN-56 ever gets to go DTV-only from the Sears Tower, both stations licensed to Gary, Lake County would then be transmitting from Chicago in Cook County, Illinois.
fortmill said:
I think this is the case with Baltimore's WMAR, WJZ and WBAL. I believe their 3-way tower is in Baltimore County for which Baltimore City is NOT a part of. Baltimore, like the cities in Virginia is independent of any county. St. Louis is the only other city I can think of that is not part of any county, even St. Louis county in Missouri.
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