Cumulus/CC/iHeartradio deal and smartphone blackouts

[LibertyNT]

But But,
KTCK is 25 kW.

I have no problem getting KTCK in McKinney during the day.

 

[mp3trojan]

But But,
KTCK is 25 kW.

I have no problem getting KTCK in McKinney during the day.

After a looksie at the ULS database..you are correct. On 4/15/2011 They were granted a modification for an increase to 25kW from 9kW daytime and still 5kW at night. That's how long it's been since I have tuned in to their AM side. After getting used to the sound quality of PLX HD2(when I'm in Dallas) and the streams, be really hard to go back to static land. Since they moved to Victory they are broadcasting in stereo now. First for the Ticket. You do know their AM transmitter is in Coppell right? Heading north on 35 from 635 once you pass Valley View, look to the west and the 4 towers that are equal height and close to each other...that's the 1310 sticks. Just a bit closer to McKinney than here. I live 1 hour exactly due east of you. 50.5 miles from McKinney and 79.6 miles to Coppell. Bet you can hear 1310 at night there. You are 26.3 miles "as the crow flies"(+- a mile) from the transmitter. If 5kW can't make it 26 miles on the 360 meter band.........?

I stand corrected.
Thanks

P.S. I didn't mean for this thread to stray so far off topic, but good info.

 

[easttxtv]

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[T4 In Rockwall]

I guess until the iHeart radio thing gets going, TuneIn will still be used because I used it this morning in the gym with no problems. Glad I stumbled on this thread for when that day comes that it doesn't work, I'll know why.

 

[LibertyNT]

But But,
KTCK is 25 kW.

I have no problem getting KTCK in McKinney during the day.

Bet you can hear 1310 at night there. You are 26.3 miles "as the crow flies"(+- a mile) from the transmitter. If 5kW can't make it 26 miles on the 360 meter band.........?

I stand corrected.
Thanks

P.S. I didn't mean for this thread to stray so far off topic, but good info.

You'd Think I could hear 1310 at night, but actually 1310 is quite trashed at night up here. Very hard to listen too. That's where 104.1 comes in Handy for me.

 

[mp3trojan]

I guess until the iHeart radio thing gets going, TuneIn will still be used because I used it this morning in the gym with no problems. Glad I stumbled on this thread for when that day comes that it doesn't work, I'll know why.

Perhaps its a location thing in the apps(TuneIn and Wunder). This is so secretive it's annoying. Works for some, does not for others. I've done everything I know to do...rebooting phone, clearing app data, reinstalling apps...nothing works for me but connecting to WiFi. I'm leaving soon for a long stint on the road and I just hope it all works out before this summer. Be nice to hear the boys nationwide and mobile.

 

[Unaffiliated Observer]

Nothing works for me. 3G, 4G, Wi-fi, turning off 3G...nothing.

 

[salemjedi54]

Then you may just have to download the iHeartRadio app and use it if you want to hear any of the Cumulus radio stations. Once they turn off the stream to TuneIn, then that is what I am going to do.

 

[mp3trojan]

Then you may just have to download the iHeartRadio app and use it if you want to hear any of the Cumulus radio stations.   Once they turn off the stream to TuneIn, then that is what I am going to do.

That would be wonderful IF they were on iHeartradio. Not yet and Cumulus is not saying when. In the menatime it's appears it's going to be like this.

Perhaps its the cell carrier. I'm on Sprint and mine does not work(TuneIn and Wunder on mobile data). Any correlations?

 

[beachguy3b]

Just was listening to WBAP a few minutes ago on TuneIn...

 

[mp3trojan]

Just was listening to WBAP a few minutes ago on TuneIn...

WBAP and KSCS still work. I guess because they were just acquired by Cumulus and the internal transition is still in work. Just guess. Expect it to go away any day now.

 

[xmusicmatt]

Thanks for the reply

But I don't get the reason for cutting off a large section of their listeners. Aren't they losing revenue by doing this, or is this a way to get ppl to talk about it like when a new station comes on or changes formats they play the same song over and over for weeks? Who's winning in this deal? Cell carriers I guess. Conserving bandwidth? It just doesn't make any sense on any level of thinking.

The reason for blocking in the 3rd party directories has to do with NTR (Non Traditional Revenue) .. The way iHeart and other platforms such as CBS's Radio.com work is it allows each station to push you adverts in the player window.. This is how they make money.. this is not doable with 3rd party directories such as tune in.. so if you tune in via those 3rd parties the station looses out on ad impressions.. That's one reason Clear Channel wants to lock you into iHeartRadio for listening to their stations.

 

[ropertex]

It used to be about getting the most ears and eyes for your advertisers.

 

[mp3trojan]

Thanks for the reply

But I don't get the reason for cutting off a large section of their listeners. Aren't they losing revenue by doing this, or is this a way to get ppl to talk about it like when a new station comes on or changes formats they play the same song over and over for weeks? Who's winning in this deal? Cell carriers I guess. Conserving bandwidth? It just doesn't make any sense on any level of thinking.

The reason for blocking in the 3rd party directories has to do with NTR (Non Traditional Revenue) .. The way iHeart and other platforms such as CBS's Radio.com work is it allows each station to push you adverts in the player window.. This is how they make money.. this is not doable with 3rd party directories such as tune in.. so if you tune in via those 3rd parties the station looses out on ad impressions..  That's one reason Clear Channel wants to lock you into iHeartRadio for listening to their stations.

Well, on the ticket when it was on TuneIn every time they went to commercial there was an accompanied graphic ad that went with the spot. Sante center for healing, Vitruvian....whatever was on. Listening to iHeart, when the station goes on break, they play music unless there is a syndicated show on. I listen to KBGO Waco a lot on iHeart and you rarely hear a commercial expect for Saturday night when Mike Harvey is on and Saturday morning when retro AT40 is on.
To my recollection, I have never seen a graphic ad pushed on iHeart...on the stations "I" listen to.

 

[OKCRadioGuy]

Too bad they don't worry about things like putting out a better overall product (Ticket and WBAP are exceptions still) and less about how they're going to 'lock people into our player'.

 

[dismuke]

(Ticket and WBAP are exceptions still)

Well, just wait until the contracts of all the pre-Krok/pre-Fergusson on-air WBAP staff start to expire. Then its transformation into KLIF will be complete and that exception will no longer exist. #Cumulusfail

 

[LibertyNT]

It just about makes me sick what they're doing to WBAP.

I cannot believe they would do anything to that guaranteed cash cow.

 

[dismuke]

It just about makes me sick what they're doing to WBAP.

I cannot believe they would do anything to that guaranteed cash cow.

The problem with cash cows is that, like ordinary cows, they cost way too much to maintain - for example, it is necessary to spend money to feed them and provide them with veterinary care. That's why Cumulus has determined that it can make the feed that it provides to all of its cows, including its cash cows, go much further by mixing in some sawdust. And the pay scale that a typical veterinarian demands - well, that is just way too much. Therefore, Cumulus has made the investment necessary to buy the very best Do It Your$elf And $ave Veterinary Reference Guide so that one of the part-time hourly farm hands can take over the work that the overpriced veterinarian used to do. Once the cash cow gets used to the taste of the sawdust it won't notice any difference. After all, it's just a stupid cow. What does a stupid cow know?

And, at the same time, they replace Mark Davis with a much less experienced, less talented and less expensive host. Once the WBAP audience gets used to the new host, they won't notice any difference. It will be just like the sawdust in the cattle feed. After all, WBAP listeners are just a bunch of stupid bumpkins who drink the sort of coffee served in truck stops and gas stations and tune in to Rush Limbaugh. So long as the new host throws out enough "red meat" type topics for them to get worked up over, those morons will keep tuning in. What do those stupid hicks know about radio? And, besides, Cumulus can even run spots boasting that it has actually improved WBAP because they got rid of a tape-delayed national show and replaced it with an evening host from its wonderful ratings success KLIF who is exact same sort of unintelligent boorish rube that Cumulus thinks its listeners are.

Besides, Cumulus has a strategy so that it won't even need those expensive cash cows. They will tag team with Media Matters' Stalinesque campaign to intimidate advertisers from running spots on programs that they don't approve of. That will knock out the most successful syndicated talk show in radio history that is a major reason why stations such as WBAP are pesky cash cows in the first place. And when that happens, Cumulus will have its own wishy washy (i.e., "non-strident") milquetoast RINO radio program which it can, if necessary, dumb down even more, to take its place. Besides, the host is called "Huckabee".... with a name that sounds like that, how can the bumpkins not go for it?

Those stupid cash cows like WBAP - just because they have higher ratings and revenue they think they are so much better than stations like KLIF. And Mark Davis - he thinks he's better than Ben Fergusson and Chris Krok. We will show them who's boss in this town!

#CumulusFail

 

[dfwupallnight]

You know, I don't hear anyone complaining about how the big bad Cumulus monster has ruined KTCK, KLIF-FM, KPLX, or KSCS. Those stations are doing just fine since the merger/their acquisition by Cumulus.

I didn't hear anyone complain when Cumulus replaced the Billy Bush show with Perez Hilton and local talent Adam Bomb, either. Mark Davis had a disagreement with Cumulus and the two parted ways. Gasp! Shocking! This has never happened before! An on-air personality leaving a station over a contract dispute? What a travesty!

Get over it, I assure you, life will go on. Mark likes working in radio, and with his track record, he should have no problem securing a time slot on one of the other radio stations in Dallas or elsewhere. Right?

 

[dismuke]

You know, I don't hear anyone complaining about how the big bad Cumulus monster has ruined KTCK, KLIF-FM, KPLX, or KSCS. Those stations are doing just fine since the merger/their acquisition by Cumulus.

Actually, if you look at the April ratings linked to in one of the other threads, the AQH percentage on all of the local Cumulus stations with the sole exceptions of KTCK and WBAP is down. #CumulusFail

Get over it, I assure you, life will go on. Mark likes working in radio, and with his track record, he should have no problem securing a time slot on one of the other radio stations in Dallas or elsewhere. Right?

I am sure he will. The rumor someone mentioned here and someone else mentioned in another message board is that Davis will be getting a syndicated program. I guess we will find out soon enough as the 45 day news blackout that someone else here mentioned and a WBAP staff member publicly mentioned elsewhere ends, I believe, tomorrow. Personally, I think it would be hilarious to no end if Davis gets a nationally syndicated program - and ends up with better ratings than Huckabee.