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David G. Hall at "State of the Industry" talk

zumahans said:
----->COURIC SLIPPING AWAY: ABC 'WORLD NEWS' 2X AUDIENCE OF COURIC 'CBS EVENING NEWS' ON WEDNESDAY IN NYC AND LOS ANGELES... IN CHICAGO, ABC PULLED 4X COURIC AUDIENCE; ABC OVER CBS 3X IN PHILLY....

Thank you for confirming my point. The weakest of the three network newscasts has a larger audience than O'Reilly, Shep, Brit, Cannity/Holmes, and Van Suffer combined.

Add in ABC and NBC, and just the evening network newscasts have about five times the viewership of Faux news primetime.

NPR has an audience about 10 times the size of Faux news on a daily weekday.

1.9 million homes for Loofah Boy? More people watch the 6pm news on KMEX channel 34 (!).

Faux News is a ratings pipsqueak despite the best hopes of people who cannot find the caps lock key.

Since David Eduardo has stopped posting the world is very lonely for someone like you isn't it?

You can't read ratings either.

So, let's see your ratings stats that show KMEX has more than 1.9 million homes (that is what you said) for a single newscast. You won't be able to post it (unless you lie) since it isn't anywhere near the truth. Post it now and don't be a wimp.

Now that we've proved you were wrong about CBS News, you've got to lump them all news organizations together to prove your point. Pathetic.

Lets see your stats on NPR, as well. I have them and will post them after you do. You're an idiot.
 
Repeat: the weakest of the ABCCBSNBC networks newscasts has a larger audience than Fox's entire combined primetime lineup.

And after correcting the excess errors of El Pluperfecto, I must admit, wiping up after Faux News droolers is very satisfying.

KMEX ratings are a matter pf public record.
 
zumahans said:
Repeat: the weakest of the ABCCBSNBC networks newscasts has a larger audience than Fox's entire combined primetime lineup.

And after correcting the excess errors of El Pluperfecto, I must admit, wiping up after Faux News droolers is very satisfying.

KMEX ratings are a matter pf public record.

Post them for both KMEX and NPR. You are an idiot.
 
Ah, a KFI fan. You learn well.

I don't have statistics to prove the earth is round, either. Like D-E sez, pal, ratings are locked up unless you own them.

But the ratings your fellow Faux News drooler posted say it all. Fox News is a ratings midget. And, incidentally, dropping like a rock.
 
zumahans said:
----->COURIC SLIPPING AWAY: ABC 'WORLD NEWS' 2X AUDIENCE OF COURIC 'CBS EVENING NEWS' ON WEDNESDAY IN NYC AND LOS ANGELES... IN CHICAGO, ABC PULLED 4X COURIC AUDIENCE; ABC OVER CBS 3X IN PHILLY....

Thank you for confirming my point. The weakest of the three network newscasts has a larger audience than O'Reilly, Shep, Brit, Cannity/Holmes, and Van Suffer combined.

You can't add cume.
 
zumahans said:
Ah, a KFI fan. You learn well.

I don't have statistics to prove the earth is round, either. Like D-E sez, pal, ratings are locked up unless you own them.

But the ratings your fellow Faux News drooler posted say it all. Fox News is a ratings midget. And, incidentally, dropping like a rock.

I'm still waiting for you to prove what you wrote that NPR has 10 times the daily audience of Fox News and KMEX has more than 1.9 million homes for a single 6 PM newscast. What are you waiting for? Are you that much of a moron that you can't find the info? Or are you just a complete loser and liar. I vote for both. Post it and prove us all wrong. I've already got the stats so as soon as you post them, I'll post links proving how wrong you are.
 
OldGringo said:
zumahans said:
----->COURIC SLIPPING AWAY: ABC 'WORLD NEWS' 2X AUDIENCE OF COURIC 'CBS EVENING NEWS' ON WEDNESDAY IN NYC AND LOS ANGELES... IN CHICAGO, ABC PULLED 4X COURIC AUDIENCE; ABC OVER CBS 3X IN PHILLY....

Thank you for confirming my point. The weakest of the three network newscasts has a larger audience than O'Reilly, Shep, Brit, Cannity/Holmes, and Van Suffer combined.

You can't add cume.


You're right, of course, because some of the O'Reilly audience slops over to the other performances. That makes the Faux total audience even smaller.

As for Mostb, do your best. The exact numbers are not accessible to the general public, and you know full well that we mere viewers can't get them.

But if I were trying to show how High and Mighty Faux news is, I sure as hell wouldn't the abysmally low, and falling, numbers posted above.

Typical Faux News internet fan posts, by the way. Turn the tables, hijack the thread.
 
zumahans said:
OldGringo said:
zumahans said:
----->COURIC SLIPPING AWAY: ABC 'WORLD NEWS' 2X AUDIENCE OF COURIC 'CBS EVENING NEWS' ON WEDNESDAY IN NYC AND LOS ANGELES... IN CHICAGO, ABC PULLED 4X COURIC AUDIENCE; ABC OVER CBS 3X IN PHILLY....

Thank you for confirming my point. The weakest of the three network newscasts has a larger audience than O'Reilly, Shep, Brit, Cannity/Holmes, and Van Suffer combined.

You can't add cume.


You're right, of course, because some of the O'Reilly audience slops over to the other performances. That makes the Faux total audience even smaller.

As for Mostb, do your best. The exact numbers are not accessible to the general public, and you know full well that we mere viewers can't get them.

But if I were trying to show how High and Mighty Faux news is, I sure as hell wouldn't the abysmally low, and falling, numbers posted above.

Typical Faux News internet fan posts, by the way. Turn the tables, hijack the thread.

The numbers are accessible to the general public to simply prove or disprove your points. The links with correct info. that I will post AFTER you can prove what you have posted can easily found during a Google search.

Prove what you have written on this board. And lets start with KMEX and NPR.

You are a total idiot. And no one else needed to prove that. You did it yourself. Thank you.
 
Oooo, a Faux fan allright. Neener neener neener.

If you need help finding the red color font selector, it's over there, way off on the right. Kind of like Faux.
 
zumahans said:
---->---->---->Thank you for confirming my point. The weakest of the three network newscasts has a larger audience than O'Reilly, Shep, Brit, Cannity/Holmes, and Van Suffer combined.

---->---->You can't add cume.

---->You're right, of course, because some of the O'Reilly audience slops over to the other performances. That makes the Faux total audience even smaller.

Care to comment? Add the cumes, a dash of charity, and the Semi-Official Government News Agency is still a pipsqueak.

Both morally, and in the ratings.

Knock yourself out with the Google. See if you can find DE, while you're at it. I miss intelligent conversation.

I gotta work right now, but can do some research tonight.

Why don't you start with the Faux News ratings 2 years ago, and today? Be sure to post those doubledigit audience drops in red ink.

You're boring. You can't prove what you wrote starting with NPR and KMEX. We're all waiting. Of course, you'll keep trying to remove yourself from your lies. But that won't happen while I'm posting here. You are a moron plain and simple. Prove what you wrote starting with NPR and KMEX, loser.
 
Oooo, more intelligent discourse from a Faux fan.

That's OK, I understand that your lifeblood and only reason for living is tanking in the ratings, and it must make you very unhappy and have to resort to neener neener neener stuff.

When you print those FNC ratings, be sure to look for the CHANGE COLOR selector on the post reply page. Negative rating growth gets red ink.

It's way off on the right side, like your talking point source.
 
zumahans said:
Oooo, more intelligent discourse from a Faux fan.

That's OK, I understand that your lifeblood and only reason for living is tanking in the ratings, and it must make you very unhappy and have to resort to neener neener neener stuff.

When you print those FNC ratings, be sure to look for the CHANGE COLOR selector on the post reply page. Negative rating growth gets red ink.

It's way off on the right side, like your talking point source.

I don't care either way about Fox News. I just wanted to say that you constantly dig yourself a hole. You always hound others even though they cannot post ratings. Even after they tell you that 2 or 3 times, you keep talking about the info that "only (they) can see." Yet, when you are asked to prove the #'s you speak of, you tell everyone it's against the rules to post ratings.

Find a hobby. You are only ruining the fun on this site with your circle jerk replies. There is a difference between a REPLY and CONVERSATION. Try conversing on occassion... Please. It would be much more interesting.
 
FOX News Jay Ward himself couldn't create anything funnier. "fair and balance" well if you are a republican, and a right wing conservative,I guess it would appear that away,but it you used your left eye with your right, you will see it tilts to the right. The wrting is much more dramatization hype,than a poorly run soap opera. "Faked News? Remember 9-11 the very day it happen? Were you watching Fox News that day? Here were the three stories that ran for FOUR HOURS;
1) US airforce Jets shot down a US airliner in Pennsylvania according to a source"
2) Gas Prices are rising every few minutes because of the attack. Gas now sells for $5.50 a gallon in Oklahoma, Utah, North Dakota and Parts of Michigan ( the truth was one gas station in Enid, oklahoma was raising prices to $5.50 a gallon and they were later busted by officials for gouging..no other state had such outbreaks)
3) Indian Army officials have detained Al-Queda leader responsible for the attack at the WTC" They didn't. It was a muslim celebrating and he was a teenager.

FOX rushes to get a story on or hypes an old one. They embellish facts and skip items if it disproves their opinion. And thats what it is just opinions loosely based on fact. Reminds me of Limbaugh and Sen McCarthy. After that day I turned them off. I figured Josef Goebbels must have been the news director.
 
---->I don't care either way about Fox News. I just wanted to say that you constantly dig yourself a hole. You always hound others even though they cannot post ratings. Even after they tell you that 2 or 3 times, you keep talking about the info that "only (they) can see."

That was Davuid Eduardo, who continually misquoted secret ratings.

------>Yet, when you are asked to prove the #'s you speak of, you tell everyone it's against the rules to post ratings.

No, what I said is at don't have them at my fingertips.

----->Find a hobby.

I have one, it's pissing off pompous windbags.

----->You are only ruining the fun on this site with your circle jerk replies. There is a difference between a REPLY and CONVERSATION. Try conversing on occassion... Please. It would be much more interesting.

I'll let my posts stand on their content. You don't like them. Noted, next.
 
zumahans said:
---->I don't care either way about Fox News. I just wanted to say that you constantly dig yourself a hole. You always hound others even though they cannot post ratings. Even after they tell you that 2 or 3 times, you keep talking about the info that "only (they) can see."

That was Davuid Eduardo, who continually misquoted secret ratings.

------>Yet, when you are asked to prove the #'s you speak of, you tell everyone it's against the rules to post ratings.

No, what I said is at don't have them at my fingertips.

----->Find a hobby.

I have one, it's pissing off pompous windbags.

----->You are only ruining the fun on this site with your circle jerk replies. There is a difference between a REPLY and CONVERSATION. Try conversing on occassion... Please. It would be much more interesting.

I'll let my posts stand on their content. You don't like them. Noted, next.

You said "I gotta work right now". So why aren't you? You are still posting lies, then, correct?

We're still waiting for you to prove what you posted. You posted a single KMEX 6 PM newscast has over 1.9 million households. And that NPR has 10 times the daily (weekday) audience of the Fox News Channel. Where is your proof liar?

You aren't pissing off anyone. I'm having fun continuing to make you look like the fool you are. Please continue to post. The more you do, the more fun I have.
 
zumahans said:
---->I don't care either way about Fox News. I just wanted to say that you constantly dig yourself a hole. You always hound others even though they cannot post ratings. Even after they tell you that 2 or 3 times, you keep talking about the info that "only (they) can see."

That was Davuid Eduardo, who continually misquoted secret ratings.

What do you mean secret ratings? Have you looked at the information he is sourcing to prove there is some "secret"? He has made it very clear he is sourcing Arbitron #'s. He even usually provides timeframes/timelines, etc. about what he is discussing. He is just not allowed to post it here as it is against RI rules, and Arbitron rules.

------>Yet, when you are asked to prove the #'s you speak of, you tell everyone it's against the rules to post ratings.

No, what I said is at don't have them at my fingertips.

Then can you state your source for the information?
 
David Hall did the heavy lifting at KFI, Robin has tweaked a few things and fate visa vi the Hispanic Mayor, Iraq, & Bush 2 have all helped KFI. Moreoever KABC sucks now more than ever, (hey they could use that for their next moniker, the puker V/O guy could say "NOw MORE THAN EVERE-WE SUCK..K A BBBBB CCCC"
Have any of you managed or programmed All News, just wondering...I have programmed major market talkers but no All Newsers. It ain't easy. Yesterday's concepts are useless, Hall will find his place and when he does, watch out!
 
doublecashkgb said:
David Hall did the heavy lifting at KFI, Robin has tweaked a few things and fate visa vi the Hispanic Mayor, Iraq, & Bush 2 have all helped KFI. Moreoever KABC sucks now more than ever, (hey they could use that for their next moniker, the puker V/O guy could say "NOw MORE THAN EVERE-WE SUCK..K A BBBBB CCCC"
Have any of you managed or programmed All News, just wondering...I have programmed major market talkers but no All Newsers. It ain't easy. Yesterday's concepts are useless, Hall will find his place and when he does, watch out!

I think there are several here who have done both large market news and large market talkers.

Curious: what does "visa vi" mean?
 
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doublecashkgb said:
David Hall did the heavy lifting at KFI, Robin has tweaked a few things and fate visa vi the Hispanic Mayor, Iraq, & Bush 2 have all helped KFI. Moreoever KABC sucks now more than ever, (hey they could use that for their next moniker, the puker V/O guy could say "NOw MORE THAN EVERE-WE SUCK..K A BBBBB CCCC"
Have any of you managed or programmed All News, just wondering...I have programmed major market talkers but no All Newsers. It ain't easy. Yesterday's concepts are useless, Hall will find his place and when he does, watch out!

I think there are several here who have done both large market news and large market talkers.

Curious: what does "visa vi" mean?
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vis-a-vis, actually. (Damn no spell check. It means in this instance "in relationship to".[

So you "think several here have done news & talk" Is that just a guess or do you have
that background. I see a lot of whining, and I see a lot of mistatements.
 
doublecashkgb said:
I think there are several here who have done both large market news and large market talkers.

Curious: what does "visa vi" mean?

vis-a-vis, actually. (Damn no spell check. It means in this instance "in relationship to".

So you "think several here have done news & talk" Is that just a guess or do you have
that background. I see a lot of whining, and I see a lot of mistatements.

Ok, that is what I thought you meant, but did nto wish to misinterpret.

In the past, I have chatted by e-mail with some talk programmers in markets from Las Vegas up to top 10 US ones. Most seem to lurk, and do not post.

I have done talk in LA, NY, Miami, and a number of bigger markets (and some medium ones) outside the US. Have not done all news for about 15 years, though.
 
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