The reverse could also be annoying. I remember one woman DJ who said "What a great song" after almost every song she would back sell. It was just an empty crutch phrase and offered no information about the song...
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- Thread starter tall_guy1
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Here's a list. Tell me if these are "good" or "bad":
Starship-We Built This City
Debbie Boone- You Light Up My Life
Los Del Rio-Macarena
Meatloaf-I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)
Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods-Billy Don't Be A Hero
Tony Orlando and Dawn-Tie A Yellow Ribbon
Terry Jacks-Seasons in the Sun
Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson-Say Say Say
Bobby McFerrin-Don't Worry, Be Happy
Well, those songs were hits. Somebody thinks they're good. I personally would rather listen to a lawnmower than hear anything from that list...😑
That was for DonCT, tbolt. Let's not spoil the payoff.
I'll add "Who Let The Dogs Out" - Baha Men
I realize taste is subjective but sometimes artistry is quantifiable. No one is pretending New Kids on the Block were the Beatles, or that David Hasselhoff's music was equivalent to Frank Sinatra. A median "cloud rapper" isn't John Coltrane. Or Tupac Shakur for that matter. It takes multiple people to write a song that doesn't hold up to what Bernie Taupin wrote.
People can like whatever, but there's some degree of quantifiable skill that can be measured in musicianship and creativity.
People can like whatever, but there's some degree of quantifiable skill that can be measured in musicianship and creativity.
That’s a reasonable assessment, Andy. But there is also a longtime participant here who will tell you in no uncertain terms that he thinks Sinatra was not just overrated but “a hack.”
There are no universally acclaimed talents. Personal taste (or lack thereof) always enters the chat.
Good
Bad
Novelty song
Rock Oprah, acquired taste
Had to look this one up, not horrible, decent song structure
Still holds up
Good
Not one of their better songs if it was either ones first release would either one be famous today.
Fun tune, probably would be a dud if it was released today.
Good song writers know where the hooks are and how to create lasting songs. Let’s take Bernie Taupin for example. How many of his songs are duds.
Every one of them was number one in Billboard and a million-seller. So, even though your opinion of them varies, they were all popular.
That is the difference between “good” and “popular”.
Is you light up my life a good song?
You say it’s not.
But it was number one in Billboard for ten weeks and sold a million copies. So it was popular and (according to you) bad.
A lot of songs are popular it doesn’t make them good songs. A song that can be played for 50 years and people still enjoy hearing is a good song.
I think the only way a song can be "objectively" bad is if it's either off key of what it's supposed to be, the chord structures are off, and things along those lines.
This gets into the music theory of song structure. What is the perfect song. Does that exist.
You're showing your age. For the record, I'm 62 years old and remember all of those artists you named and have favorite songs by each of them. However, I know, and can introduce you to, people now in their late teens and early 20s who have never heard of Frank Sinatra and who have barely heard of the Beatles. We have a twenty-something boarder living at my residence whose great songs go no older than Nirvana's 1992 hit, "Smells Like Teen Spirit."
The truth, and the whole truth is, as I've explained in another thread, that each generation doesn't rate the so-called classics from previous generations. Is it any wonder that classical music from Brahms to Beethoven to Chopin to Mozart can now only be heard in symphony halls and on non-commercial outlets? The vast majority of the generations from baby boomers on down are just not into that kind of music!
Look through Ava Max's catalog and perhaps you'll find it. 😉
If you scroll through the internet some will say the greatest song is Wichita Lineman.