DO SOME RADIO TALK SHOWS FAN THE FLAMES OF HATE UPON THE UNBALANCED

[InSearchOfGear]

John Wilkes Booth, Charles J. Guiteau, Leon Czolgosz, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley, Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme, Sarah Jane Moore, Gavrilo Princip, and almost all of the other famous assassins and would-be assassins in history never listened to talk radio.

I noticed you left Eric Rudolph off the list. Hmmmmmm...... ;-)

 

[upstate29651]

'Cause we want to.

No.....because you wanted to "soapbox" & have some local folks "see" you, instead of using the appropriate board. "We" doesn't enter into this at all.

How old are you anyway, son?

G

 

[InSearchOfGear]

My objection to these kinds of arguments, is that you never know who or what will set people off, whether it's comic books or Tom & Jerry cartoon violence or talk radio or Catcher In The Rye or "Helter Skelter" or nekkid pictures or Jackass or scary movies.

I think that most people on the conservative/libertarian side object to these arguments less so because it's their ox being gored (although they could get in a back-and-forth war about other ideological influences for those of differing opinions), but more so because it constitutes an abdication of personal responsibility...

...although for the non-libertarians there is certainly a degree of inconsistency. But that's another argument for another day.

And the irony is, they're the ones preaching "personal responbibility". Whenever you hear a talk host/show claim they've "done your homework for you", turn off the radio and do your own homework.

 

[Talk_Dude]

Funny how these same people defending talk hosts are also the first to criticize the news media who are just trying to report the story and inform.

I spent over an hour today watching CNN and Fox. Neither of them were trying to "report the story and inform". Both were desparate to pad about 5 minutes worth of actual information into an hour of thinly disguised sensationalism.

John Wilkes Booth, Charles J. Guiteau, Leon Czolgosz, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley, Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme, Sarah Jane Moore, Gavrilo Princip, and almost all of the other famous assassins and would-be assassins in history never listened to talk radio.

I noticed you left Eric Rudolph off the list. Hmmmmmm...... ;-)

I also left off Brutus and the rest of the Roman Senate. :

 

[gregg75]

'Cause we want to.

No.....because you wanted to "soapbox" & have some local folks "see" you, instead of using the appropriate board. "We" doesn't enter into this at all.

How old are you anyway, son?

G

I could care less about anybody seeing me. This is a topic that is worth discussing. I've never even
been to the talk board. I'm interested in what Atlanta folks have to say. Who made you a mind reader anyway? You sound like a spiteful old man who never has a good word to say about anything and anybody. If you are so interested take it up on the South Carolina board old man. How old are you 93? Wisdom does not come with age, sorry to have to tell you.

It's time for regular folks to take a stand against these talk show idiots and the mindless idiots
that follow them.

 

[jabba17]

My objection to these kinds of arguments, is that you never know who or what will set people off, whether it's comic books or Tom & Jerry cartoon violence or talk radio or Catcher In The Rye or "Helter Skelter" or nekkid pictures or Jackass or scary movies.

I think that most people on the conservative/libertarian side object to these arguments less so because it's their ox being gored (although they could get in a back-and-forth war about other ideological influences for those of differing opinions), but more so because it constitutes an abdication of personal responsibility...

...although for the non-libertarians there is certainly a degree of inconsistency. But that's another argument for another day.

And the irony is, they're the ones preaching "personal responbibility". Whenever you hear a talk host/show claim they've "done your homework for you", turn off the radio and do your own homework.

Neal Boortz, to his credit, tells people to never believe anything on his show unless it's consistent with what they already know or they have independently fact-checked it. Good advice, and not just with talk radio. Don't ever use talk radio as a primary source.

 

[InSearchOfGear]

Neal Boortz, to his credit, tells people to never believe anything on his show unless it's consistent with what they already know or they have independently fact-checked it. Good advice, and not just with talk radio. Don't ever use talk radio as a primary source.

To his credit, my a$$. How many of the imbeciles that listen to him have a clue how to independantly verify his drivel, and how many more who are capable just take his word for it BASED UPON the fact that he invites them to check his story?

Addendum: When ever anyone on talk radio invites you to check their facts, CHECK THEM.

People, with low I.Q's, tend to follow whatever and whomever validates their own predjudices.

As for Neal, he's an elitist through and through. Everyone else (in his mind) is $h!t on his shoes.

 

[Jay F]

22 years olds don't listen to talk radio. I doubt the killer ever listened to it... much less was influenced by it.

America is a violent country. Yet it wouldn't surprise me at all if conservative talk radio listeners as a group are less not more likely to ever commit any type of violent crime...if anything because of the older demogaphics.

 

[kenglish]

I think I'll hold off making an opinion until enough people start shows that encourage people to "Kill your local broadcaster", and see if it upsets anyone .

But, in fact, there are some talkers who encourage violence. Whether we can call them "responsible media" or "irresponsible media" remains to be seen. Some are large corporate broadcasters, some are small operators just trying for ratings points, so they can stay on the air.
There are time-brokerage stations, especially on shortwave, who will sell time to anyone with cash. And, there are many that are owned entirely by the entities that are creating the programming...often masquerading as religious groups (more correctly, "quasi-religious/political").

When I heard the guy had been ranting about "World Currency" and "New World Order" conspiracy theories, my thoughts went directly to some of these brokered-time broadcasts. Not saying that the mainstream media is completely guilt free, either.

(As a side note:
The company I work for dumped the #1 rated Sean Hannity recently, not for what he says, but for the increasingly inflammatory way that he was saying it. Our own comment boards were showing such increasing rage, with comments on gays, Mexicans, and others reaching in to the hundreds and even thousands. I think the final straw came when one of our own, moderate talk hosts' son was killed in an accident, and many comments of "good riddance" and "see what God does to Mexican lovers" were posted on our site. We had to close the comments on that story, and soon closed the entire comment board system.....
That same day, I talked to a nearby building's tenants, about why their windows were boarded up. They told me that it happens often, because the Mexican Consulate was previously located in the building, and people routinely would smash the windows. They had even been threatened by people who would come inside and rant at the first person they saw...which was actually a local government sponsored handicapped assistance center, because there was a Mexican flag next to the American flag on the roof. They had to get a poster of "Flag Etiquette" from the government, to show people that it was properly displayed. They still got threats. Crazy folks get nasty, and some talk shows fuel their hatred. It needs to be taken seriously.)

 

[gregg75]

There is a lot of HATE YOUR NEIGHBOR mentality on talk radio. Instead of trying to find a
solution they encourage the hate. How boring their shows would be if everybody got along
and there was peace in the valley. Then, they could only talk about the weather and what
was on TV last night. Throw down your hate rods and join normal society. Pull the plug on
hate radio.

 

[Jay F]

Talking about the weather and what was on TV last night would be the worst talk radio ever..boring as Hell.

We always have and always will have mentally disturbed violent people who want to harm politicians. I wish they didn't exist but they have been around well before talk radio or even radio itself ever existed. Thankfully they are small in number. There are also a whole lot more killers out there who are not politically motivated in the least, But as much as I hate killers I have a MUCH greater fear of those who would censor talk radio or take away freedom of speech.

 

[Goat Rodeo Cowboy]

Before we had talk radio, America had its experimental proto-type. Down in the village square or near the court house, virtually every town had a "spittin and wittlers" bench. And the alternate location for talk was the barber shop a lot like the one in Mayberry.

And it seems that every town had a person who had some limitations, some difficulties, and rather cruelly, we called such a person "The village idiot".

That whole process was somewhat self-regulating. Get to mouthy and someone might punch one of your teeth out. Go home and tell your Momma what was being said today about the village idiot and you could get a very stern lecture about looking after your fellow man.

Many of us will tell you today that we packed up years ago and left our little hometowns and found great joy in the anonymity the big city offers most of us. No kinfolk around to hush us when we talk the wrong politics. No lifelong fellow church members to chide us when we withdrew and moved to another church. Say anything you want about the so-called good old days: It is both good news and bad news that society as we knew it back them was civilization had more of these built-in self-regulation mechanisms.

It appears Talk Radio has few if any built-in, self-regulation, negative feedback filters built in. Going back to the image of the village of old, there are times when talk radio has all the charm of a rabid dog prowling the streets of your village. What we used to do to solve that problem is not considered an acceptable solution for talk radio. Since censorship is not an acceptable accessory for the American life style.... how will we deal with talk radio on the days it plays the role of a rabid dog in the streets of our village?

 

[InSearchOfGear]

22 years olds don't listen to talk radio. I doubt the killer ever listened to it... much less was influenced by it.

America is a violent country. Yet it wouldn't surprise me at all if conservative talk radio listeners as a group are less not more likely to ever commit any type of violent crime...if anything because of the older demogaphics.

The vitriol spewed daily on ralk radio is part of a larger picture. This was originally about Sara Palin's website putting AZ's 8th disctrict in the crosshairs. Nobody knows what he listened to, so charachterizing his listening habits as n/a would not be appropriate.

 

[RR Piper]

Lets not forget that the DNC had its own Target Map very similar to Sarah Palins:


http://alligatorfarm.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/fyi-to-loudmouth-liberals/

No one knows what makes a mentally unstable person do what they do. It’s disgraceful that this sad, horrible event has provided people with an excuse to point the finger and politicize.

 

[gregg75]

That link is to some kind of blog or opionion column.............wouldn't call that FACTUAL.

I couldn't even figure out what it was????? other than a mess

 

[RR Piper]

Scroll down and it shows a map previously used by the DNC...it was the best picture I could find to show the similarities. Or you can just negate it and keep your focus where you think it should be.

 

[Goat Rodeo Cowboy]

Those two maps side by side should cause this whole debate to calm down a little bit. Both sides need to recognize that the nation will not be healed because one side can shout louder than the other. That may also be a thought that should be ingested by the broadcasting industry.

 

[InSearchOfGear]

Lets not forget that the DNC had its own Target Map very similar to Sarah Palins:

http://alligatorfarm.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/fyi-to-loudmouth-liberals/

No one knows what makes a mentally unstable person do what they do. It’s disgraceful that this sad, horrible event has provided people with an excuse to point the finger and politicize.

Thanks for sharing this. Not quite as graphic as crosshairs, but still wrong. VERY wrong.

 

[gregg75]

I see nothing on that map linking it to the DNC. That map could have been done by
anybody........even the anti-DNC.

 

[Tom Wells]

I think what we are seeing is the death of manners.
That being said, "manners' are often leftover remnants of days when it was acceptable to have a social structure
with class-consciousness "mannerisms" extended and rigidly enforced through all levels including slavery.

We reject such manners based in inequity rightly.
Do not be sad for the death of such forced "manners".

The death of manners now means a day come come where Courtesy instead may grow.
It is a different thing entirely, and is extended to all equally.

It can start now, by common acclaim.