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Do You Get Any Out-of-Market TV Signals?

Yes bot not KOZK-PBS,CW Columbia/Jefferson City and Digital Sub Channels that Springfield and Culmiba/Jefferson City other then KY3 Weather Plus I think.
 
At my palatial mobile home in SW Fla- I can get all of the local market Ft. Myers Stations from 35 mi as well as many of the Tampa-St. Pete stations from 60 mi (but only after sunset). Then again my "system" costs only $10 for the converter box ($50 minus $40 coupon) and .50 for a RCA indoor antenna. What's weird is that I don't have to move/turn the antenna when both markets are there.
Am strongly considering a 4 or 8 bay bow with a rotor for more reliable Tampa reception, maybe some DX ing, but most of my viewing is at night anyway.
 
Ah! Fort Meyers/Cape Coral! The market of NBC 2 and FOX 4. I've never been to that DMA (only Tampa in 2009), but even I know they were channels 20 and 36, respectively, in the analog days! :)

In fairness, WCTX-TV (MY) channel 59 of New Haven IDs on air as MY-TV 9, alluding to the analog cable spot for most systems in the area. They haven't mentioned their old analog channel of 59 since at least 2000, in their last days as WBNE-TV, a.k.a. WB 59 (they became our UPN affiliate on January 1, 2001 and changed their call letters around that time).

It's silly when they use a slogan instead of a heritage TV channel number. Anybody with a decent antenna in Hartford and south will have their TVs display "59-1" for MY and "59-2" for TheCool TV. Springfield, MA can call their FOX station FOX 6 all they want. I'll still call them what they actually are: WGGB-TV 40-2.
 
Growing up in Hazlet, NJ (Monmouth County), in the New York market, we used to receive most of the New York City and Philadelphia signals. NYC was approximately 40 miles north and Philly was approximately 55 miles south. As far as reception, the only stations that we could not receive there were analog 55 (Licensed to Long Island), 66 (licensed to West Milford, NJ), 43 (licensed to Connecticut) and none of the low power NYC stations. WNJU/47 was also very weak down there. From the Philadelphia side, we used to get everything but analog 40 (licensed to Wildwood, NJ) and 61 (licensed to Wilmington, DE). 61 would come in under the slightest bit of tropo. Monmouth County was kind of a strange area TV wise. The big NYC stations would not cover the area as they felt it was too far south to be of relevance to their viewers and the Philly stations would not cover it since they felt it was too far north. Not sure if this has changed since I moved in the 90s as that area has really grown in the last 20 years with people fleeing the urban blight both north and south of there.
 
In the analog era, WJAR-10 and WPRI-12 (both in Providence) could both be received with indoor VHF antennas on most sets in the Boston area, especially south of a line from Burlington to Gloucester.
 
rgseark2009 said:
Even KRBK?

KRBK is licensed to Osage Beach, which is in the Lake of the Ozarks area. It has multiple transmitters, including one in Eldridge (between Camdenton and Lebanon) at the KJEL 103.7 tower. So, even at just 10,000 watts, it covers most of the Lake area just fine.
 
My market is Miami-Ft. Lauderdale, but West Palm Beach's WPTV/WPEC/WFLX/WXEL come in 100% fine under normal conditions---which in today's digital mode is actually an improvement over their analogs, which were rarely pristine; always seemed to be a little fuzz.

Even WTVX comes in a majority of the time, when the outdoor antenna is pointed that way.

cd
 
rgseark2009 said:
mgsports said:
Lake of the Ozarks gets almost all of Springfield/Columbia/Jefferson City,MO Stations.

Even KRBK?

KRBK? Isn't that TV 31 Sacramento Call Letters back in the 1980's? Incidentally this station is now called KMAX and its a CW station owned by CBS Inc.
 
Joseph_Gallant said:
In the analog era, WJAR-10 and WPRI-12 (both in Providence) could both be received with indoor VHF antennas on most sets in the Boston area, especially south of a line from Burlington to Gloucester.

With roof antenna, about 2 1/2 mile SE of the Needham towers, I get these Providence stations perfectly, at all times:

WLNE ABC 6 (49 real)
WJAR NBC 10 (51)
WPRI CBS 12 (13)
WLWC WB 28 (22)
WNAC FOX 64 (12)

These are 30-40 miles away. WPXQ ION 69 (17) at about 60 miles comes in about 25-30% of the time, but I have never received WSBE PBS 36 (21), though oddly - now and then skip brings in WLIW Long Island also on 21. WSBE seems to have some odd directional pattern with a null to the north.
 
Just to nitpick: WLWC-TV channel 28 from New Bedford, MA is a CW affiliate. I think they might have been a primary WB affiliate at one time in their existence, however.
 
recto101 said:
KRBK? Isn't that TV 31 Sacramento Call Letters back in the 1980's? Incidentally this station is now called KMAX and its a CW station owned by CBS Inc.

Yes, and I believe the old KRBK Sacramento was owned by the same company that owns the present KRBK in Springfield. "RBK" would be the initials of one of the Koplar family.
 
KML-224 said:
Just to nitpick: WLWC-TV channel 28 from New Bedford, MA is a CW affiliate. I think they might have been a primary WB affiliate at one time in their existence, however.

You're right - I remembered it as being the WB at one time. I only occasionally watch the Providence stations, with the exception of WJAR 10-2, which carries the full MeTV schedule. The one station I would most like to get, but cannot, is PBS WSBE, which was quite watchable, with slight snow, in the analog days.
 
RadioDaze said:
In Durham, North Carolina, my experience has been that much of the out-of-market TV we used to receive disappeared after the digital transition. The only consistent signals we get from outside the Raleigh-Durham DMA are WFMY (UHF 51/PSIP 2) from Greensboro and, WCWG (UHF 19/ PSIP 20) from Lexington (also Greensboro market). Greensboro, Greenville-New Bern-Jacksonville and Wilmington siglas used to be commonplace in the analog era.


Ironically in Greenville almost all I watch are Raleigh channels. The only one I can't get is WTVD/11. Aside from not having a decent VHF antenna, I have local adjacents on 10 (WNCT) and 12 (WCTI).
 
When I was a kid (late 50s and early 60s) growing up in the foothills above the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles - San Diego TV stations generally came in much clearer than their LA counterparts. This was before cable TV came in during the late 60s. Son in my childhood, we would watch most network programming on XETV Channel 6 (ABC affiliate licensed to Tijuana, Mexico), KFMB Channel 8 (CBS), and KOGO-TV, Channel 10 (NBC).
 
I remember at a friend's house back in the mid 90's back in Bald Peak (Newberg), which is about 30 miles from the Portland area all the Eugene TV stations would come in pretty clear (& it was more clearer than the Portland stations), like channel 9 (ABC), 13 (CBS), 16 (NBC), 28 (PBS) 34 (UPN, then later Fox), but not channel 25 (Fox), which was a little fuzzy, but no cable.
 
This is not an antenna issue, more of a cable issue, but Cable One has been running KSL out of Salt Lake in Eastern Idaho. No more. Instead just a "signal not available". Fine, but why not put something complelling on this prime channel (6)?
 
searadiofreak said:
This is not an antenna issue, more of a cable issue, but Cable One has been running KSL out of Salt Lake in Eastern Idaho. No more. Instead just a "signal not available". Fine, but why not put something complelling on this prime channel (6)?

Knowing cable companies the last 20 years or so, another shopping channel will probably go on cable channel 6 in lieu of even a local station or a local subchannel.
 
Gregg said:
...Another friend is a pro football fan. Some years ago, NFL games were frequently blacked out in their home market if the stadium wasn't sold out. So he put up a rooftop antenna, even though he got a great signal from the Empire State Building with just rabbit ears. He was thinking he'd get CBS 3 from Hartford, which was far enough away to not be subject to black out rules. Instead, he got Channel 3 (and 6 and 10) from Philadelphia. Not what he was expecting but it was still a chance for him to see football games not airing in the NYC market. Are you surprised that one or more out-of-market signals come in on your TV, when it's not hooked up to satellite or cable?
As a youngster on Long Island in the '60s, I enjoyed similar experiences with those same CT & Philly TV channnels. It boggled my mind how reception of those distant stations seemed to improve during humid weather. As an engineer would later explain, atmospheric moisture literally conducted the FM component of the TV signal (or something like that).
 
channel99 said:
Joseph_Gallant said:
In the analog era, WJAR-10 and WPRI-12 (both in Providence) could both be received with indoor VHF antennas on most sets in the Boston area, especially south of a line from Burlington to Gloucester.

With roof antenna, about 2 1/2 mile SE of the Needham towers, I get these Providence stations perfectly, at all times:

WLNE ABC 6 (49 real)
WJAR NBC 10 (51)
WPRI CBS 12 (13)
WLWC WB 28 (22)
WNAC FOX 64 (12)

These are 30-40 miles away. WPXQ ION 69 (17) at about 60 miles comes in about 25-30% of the time, but I have never received WSBE PBS 36 (21), though oddly - now and then skip brings in WLIW Long Island also on 21. WSBE seems to have some odd directional pattern with a null to the north.

I live kinda high up near Milford Ma. I recently installed an indoor antenna on my digital tv. I have been pulling in all of the Boston and Providence channels, as well as WFSB 3.1-4, WUNV 18.1-3, WLIW 21.1-3 and WFTY 67.1-2. Admittedly I have to manually adjust the antenna and weather can be a big factor. I was pleasantly surprised at how many stations were available on a relatively cheap antenna on which the box said was rated for "20 miles."
 
Used to get a very weak KVOS 12 Bellingham in the Seattle area, but not now. Comcast offers it however (Me-TV 12.1 and TheCoolTV 12.2).
FM is completely different. Living in Bothell WA, most of the big Vancouver FM stations came in, as well as CHEK/6 Victoria (65-70 miles?) Plus KPQ 102.1 in Wenatchee. Very different on TV than FM.

-crainbebo
 
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