Does anyone know the precise listening audience of the Michael Savage radio show?

[Albert19X]

In my market there are three commercial non-sports talk stations. All three compete to be to the premiere 'murican, librul-thumpin', Gadsden flag-waving station in the region. Aside from NPR non-far Right talk radio does not exist here.

 

[boombox4]

Ranger: Are you a college student? Or when you call colleges and universities a "bastion" of the views heard on progressive talk radio are you just repeating what Dr. Weiner and other right-wing hosts have told you? Your comment suggests you think college faculty somehow impose their one-sided opinions but right-wing talk does not? And no "spectrum of beliefs" exists in radio; talk radio is all right-wing, all the time.

I was a university student in the 80's, and once again in the 2000's when I went back for two years. There was definitely a left wing slant from every prof I had. Some of them were more vehement than others. So it's not just "right wing talk" suggesting that instructors at universities and colleges inject a 'liberal' slant in their lectures.

But in my view, you just learn to ignore it or deal with it. Not everybody in society is going to agree with you, no matter which side of the political spectrum you favor.

 

[Albert19X]

My college experience leaves me wondering how professors manage to insert left wing indoctrination in their curriculum. The only courses I took that even remotely dealt with politics were the political science and history classes of my freshman and sophomore years. Even those courses were pretty even handed in their treatment of the subject matter. The rest of my profs were too busy teaching their particular topics to branch off into unrelated political indoctrination.

 

[boombox4]

I listen to Michael Savage maybe a couple times a week. I like his ascerbic wit. He's definitely conservative, but sometimes doesn't fall in line with other conservative talk hosts. Sometimes he's a bit too conspiratorial for my taste, but it still makes for interesting listening.

Unlike the rest of the conservative talk hosts I heard at the time, Savage said Trayvon Martin was a victim, and George Zimmerman should have been tried for 2a heavier charge than he was tried with.

And after the Elliott Rodger shootings he said that mentally ill people shouldn't be able to purchase guns.

 

[boombox4]

My college experience leaves me wondering how professors manage to insert left wing indoctrination in their curriculum. The only courses I took that even remotely dealt with politics were the political science and history classes of my freshman and sophomore years. Even those courses were pretty even handed in their treatment of the subject matter. The rest of my profs were too busy teaching their particular topics to branch off into unrelated political indoctrination.

In my experience it wasn't a constant thing. But their opinions would sometimes come out -- on at least one occasion it was a form of anti-Christian prejudice that was completely uncalled for, and this was in a history course involving the history of the Roman Empire.

There was another instructor who headed a department, and was known for injecting his political and social views on classes until he was reprimanded by the college administration, and that was only after enough students complained.

The problem is that any time you have an authority figure, like a public school teacher, college instructor or professor, giving out their political or social opinions, and then they give you coursework on political or social subjects -- you're going to have to consider their views when doing that coursework. I have no problem with it. You just do what you have to do to get your degree and move on.

 

[Avid Listener]

In my market there are three commercial non-sports talk stations. All three compete to be to the premiere 'murican, librul-thumpin', Gadsden flag-waving station in the region. Aside from NPR non-far Right talk radio does not exist here.

As many of us have pointed out on other threads about news/talk radio, spoken word format radio is little different from music format radio. If you want to hear a genre of music or songs that didn't test well as "hits", you are SOL. Left wing and non-wing talk radio simply don't attract enough listeners to be commercially viable.

 

[Albert19X]

As many of us have pointed out on other threads about news/talk radio, spoken word format radio is little different from music format radio. If you want to hear a genre of music or songs that didn't test well as "hits", you are SOL. Left wing and non-wing talk radio simply don't attract enough listeners to be commercially viable.

Which further refudiates the claim there exists a spectrum of opinion available in commercial talk radio.

 

[FredLeonard]

I, too, wonder how you work politics into a math class or a science class - unless you have those "liberal professors" talking about evolution and climate change and not giving equal time to creationism and global warming deniers.

But instead of these blanket statements about your "liberal professors" I'd love to hear some specific examples: What they said and in what context they said it. But I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Avid Listener]

Which further refudiates the claim there exists a spectrum of opinion available in commercial talk radio.

Who has ever made such a claim? There is right wing talk radio on commercial stations, left wing spoken word format radio (though not talk radio, per se) on public radio, and a tiny handful of liberal news/talk shows gasping for air on a handful of commercial stations. No where is there any degree of wishy-washy, mamby-pamby, mugwump style middle-ground news/talk radio.

 

[FredLeonard]

Who has ever made such a claim? There is right wing talk radio on commercial stations, left wing spoken word format radio (though not talk radio, per se) on public radio, and a tiny handful of liberal news/talk shows gasping for air on a handful of commercial stations. No where is there any degree of wishy-washy, mamby-pamby, mugwump style middle-ground news/talk radio.

Since Avid has added me to ignore list (which must be quite lengthy by now), he won't see this but for everybody else: Notice the false equivalency as he repeats The Big Lie: "Left-wing spoken word format radio on public radio." How does know? Rush told him so. He doesn't listen. NPR is on his ignore list, too.

Over on NPR.org there are posts from conservatives who do listen (and from liberals, too) complaining about NPR's "bias." But those posts are specific: In this story, reporter so and so said such and such. Or how come NPR is not reporting this? Not here. Just over and over: "NPR is liberal." But this is necessary to justify the extreme right-wing monopoly in commercial political talk. We don't need no stickin' fairness doctrine; NPR is liberal.

Still waiting for some original point or argument from the ditto-heads; something in there heads that Rush, Dr. Weiner or somebody similar didn't put there.

 

[Albert19X]

Who has ever made such a claim? There is right wing talk radio on commercial stations, left wing spoken word format radio (though not talk radio, per se) on public radio, and a tiny handful of liberal news/talk shows gasping for air on a handful of commercial stations. No where is there any degree of wishy-washy, mamby-pamby, mugwump style middle-ground news/talk radio.

umfan made that claim just a few comments up thread:

"And no "spectrum of beliefs" exists in radio; talk radio is all right-wing, all the time."

Which is why Alan Colmes, Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann and NPR are all on the radio.

 

[fordranger797]

I question Ranger's assertion that listening to talk radio is the same as "getting involved." Actually, it's the opposite of getting involvement.

Ranger: Are you a college student? Or when you call colleges and universities a "bastion" of the views heard on progressive talk radio are you just repeating what Dr. Weiner and other right-wing hosts have told you?

I certainly am. I would be happy to try to find a way to prove it if you don't believe me.

 

[FredLeonard]

I certainly am. I would be happy to try to find a way to prove it if you don't believe me.

I didn't ask you to prove it. I just asked for specific examples from your own experience (not second hand) of instructors imposing "liberal views" in the classroom.

 

[fordranger797]

I didn't ask you to prove it. I just asked for specific examples from your own experience (not second hand) of instructors imposing "liberal views" in the classroom.

There are many examples but I don't think getting into this topic any further is necessary. Send me a private message if you really are curious but this thread isn't the proper venue for this.

 

[FredLeonard]

There are many examples but I don't think getting into this topic any further is necessary. Send me a private message if you really are curious but this thread isn't the proper venue for this.

Cop out. You bring up "liberal professors" but don't think it's "the proper venue" to back it up with a specific example. Same thing for NPR. Just toss a BS bomb and walk away.

 

[fordranger797]

Cop out. You bring up "liberal professors" but don't think it's "the proper venue" to back it up with a specific example. Same thing for NPR. Just toss a BS bomb and walk away.

I actually consider it being mature, and trying not to get off on more tangents that do not relate to the listening audience of a radio show.

 

[Avid Listener]

umfan made that claim just a few comments up thread:

Actually, his comments about that handful of left-wing extremists demonstrates the lack of "spectrum". That's why it never occurred to me that he was claiming that there was a spectrum. For there to be a "spectrum" of beliefs, there would have to be representatives from all points on the continuum, not just extremists at both ends. Since his statement supported the premise of two extremes with no middle, and therefore no "spectrum", I didn't read his comment as supporting the existence of "spectrum".

 

[Albert19X]

Actually, his comments about that handful of left-wing extremists demonstrates the lack of "spectrum". That's why it never occurred to me that he was claiming that there was a spectrum. For there to be a "spectrum" of beliefs, there would have to be representatives from all points on the continuum, not just extremists at both ends. Since his statement supported the premise of two extremes with no middle, and therefore no "spectrum", I didn't read his comment as supporting the existence of "spectrum".

That interpretation of the comment is certainly unique.

 

[Avid Listener]

That interpretation of the comment is certainly unique.

How do you define "spectrum"? Is the standard spectrum produced by a prism the familiar rainbow of all colors, or is it just infrared and ultraviolet? Do you ever hear the term "spectrum" used to only describe the extreme ends of a range, with nothing in the middle?

 

[FredLeonard]

I actually consider it being mature, and trying not to get off on more tangents that do not relate to the listening audience of a radio show.

It's call conversation. Conversations have tangents. If this topic were as limited as you apparently want to make it, it would have been less than half a dozen posts long. Except that I had the suspicion all along that you had some agenda with your original question but you did not want to be out in the open with.

Don't start tangents if you don't want to see them through.