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EAGLES FOOTBALL RETURN TO WIP 610 AM NEXT SEASON

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WIP will simulcast the Philadelphia Eagles games next season. The games will both be heard on WIP 610 AM and WYSP 94.1 FM. Both stations will have separate pre-post game shows: http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080220_WIP_will_also_carry_Eagles_games.html . I hope that WOGL or KYW will carry the sixers, Phillies or Flyers games that might happen at the same time while the Eagles are playing. That would be the smart thing to do or airing the Phillies, flyers or sixers games on WYSP or WIP on tape delay.
 
Klein makes a somewhat-misguided point in his article with regard to saying the station saves in not needing staff during the Eagle simulcast. Two reasons. Someone I suppose will still need to board-op the games. And WIP is the last station to cut corners in terms of staffing, considering they have live hosts on for all but the Cataldi replay early on Saturday morning whenever they're not running play-by-play.

I haven't a clue where Julius is going with his points after his obligatory link. Anyone else want to venture a guess/interpret?
 
Julius May said:
I was saying that if the Flyers, Sixers and or Phillies are playing at the same time, KYW and WOGL should air those games, not on a station with a poor signal like 1340, 1480, etc.
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And certainly not 920.
 
The "All News, All the Time" station tried the Phillies way back when. They aren't going to make that mistake again. And anyway, what does WIP have to do with the Phillies?
 
WTUX said:
The "All News, All the Time" station tried the Phillies way back when. They aren't going to make that mistake again. And anyway, what does WIP have to do with the Phillies?
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Never mind the Phillies. I think that WOGL and KYW should air the Flyers and/or sixers games if both teams are playing while the Eagles are playing or air the flyers or sixers games on tape delay on WIP and or WPHT.. Bottom line, don't put the games on a poor signal station in town, that's my whole point.
 
The article said one station would run in real time and one in delay to match the tv signal - hopefully WYSP will be matched up to the tv so you can listen to the audio in fm stereo (not WIP with am interference - like having to listen to Steve Jones & Jack Ham on the Penn State games - if the radio is close to the tv the interference is really bad).
 
Finally got a chance to actually read the article. I think one of Kline's points hits the mark. What Philadelphia sports fan is listening to WIP while the Eagles are on TV and WYSP? No one. So if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. It more than saves a couple of bucks for a show host and earns more radio revenue. It also saves the station of putting someone on the air who has to sit and talk to himself and his producer during the entire game.
 
Eagles on WIP as well as WYSP

An all-sports station without PxP from the biggest local team is retarded.

WIP not airing Eagles PxP hurt the station in revenue as well as image. The equivalent would be WFAN without the Mets or the football Giants.
 
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chuckydoll said:
An all-sports station without PxP from the biggest local team is retarded.

WIP not airing Eagles PxP hurt the station in revenue as well as image. The equivalent would be WFAN without the Mets or the football Giants.
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I'm a Mets fan, but, as much as it pains me to say it, the biggest local team in New York is the Yankees. At least in the last 12+ years. They're on WCBS and were on WABC before that.

But I agree, it makes no sense to have CBS own all the local sports PBP in Philly but spread it around three stations rather than put it all on their sports station. They should move not only the Eagles to WIP, but the Phillies too.

Why are the games still going to be on WYSP? Do they fill some coverage hole in WIP's signal? In this era of MTS stereo TV (which is everywhere now) and HDTV, there is no longer an audio quality advantage of radio over TV for most people. The only difference is local announcers versus national ones. Is there really that big a market that needs to hear the games in FM Stereo? WYSP has a rock image to reinvigorate.

Is WIP-HD in stereo? They'll probably air the games in stereo there, if you must hear Merril Reese without static and over stereo crowd noise. That, or watch the games in HD, unplug your center channel speaker, and put your AM radio in front of it.
 
I couldn't disagree more aindik!

I am one that DOES NOT listen to the radio with the TV muted during Eagles games. Nothing against Merrill and Mike Quick, but I'm just fine with the TV announcers.

But, in those rare times when I am in the car during a game, the sound of football in FM Stereo is AWESOME! It's going to be fun to have the games on WIP again, but only for nostalgia. Not sound.

By some of your comments, I'm guessing you're one of the people that has decided that "sporting events should only be on sports stations". Where've you been? This isn't a new thing. Stations carry sports because they make them MONEY. Truthfully, I can't believe the Eagles are the only team in this town on FM. I was in Pittsburgh a few weeks back on business and Penguins games are on FM for Pete's sake...and that's hockey (which I happen to love)!

WYSP has a rock image to "reinvigorate"?? If rock music were a sport, it would be football. Trust me, the whole "FREE FM" thing is pretty much forgotten by now. I'm guessing that if you asked the average Philadelphian on the street they would say YSP has always been a rock station. I haven't done the study, but I bet it's a pretty safe assumption.

Hey, maybe if radio's looking to get some attention again from the general public they should relegate the Eagles back to the AM band. I guarantee you there would be an outrage in this town!
 
I think the game will be live on WIP so that you can listen at the Linc and WYSP will be delayed to match up with digital cable.
 
Bill_W said:
I think the game will be live on WIP so that you can listen at the Linc and WYSP will be delayed to match up with digital cable.
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Now THAT is a really great idea, if it's actually going happen. Local audio in sync with the game..spectacular.

I'd rather listen to my mother-in-law sing opera then have to listen to Fox sports coverage of Eagles football.

They can make an Eagles 25 yard t.d. run sound like they just robbed the church cash box. With the delay gone, Merrill and Mike will be

back in my game :-*
 
simonbarrsinister said:
Now THAT is a really great idea, if it's actually going happen. Local audio in sync with the game..spectacular.

I'd rather listen to my mother-in-law sing opera then have to listen to Fox sports coverage of Eagles football.

They can make an Eagles 25 yard t.d. run sound like they just robbed the church cash box. With the delay gone, Merrill and Mike will be

back in my game :-*
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I have DirecTv HD and Comcast digital HD. I was flipping around with the picture in picture on channel 29 both in "analog" and DT on Comcast & DirecTv. There seems to be about the same delay on all 5 feeds (counting the real analog delayed signal being put out by Comcast). I don't know about Fios. I was watching a Patriots playoff game on Channel 3 HD on Comcast and my brother was at his house watching it on analog channel 3 through Verizon and he was a couple of seconds behind.
 
Julius May said:
I hope that WOGL or KYW will carry the sixers, Phillies or Flyers games that might happen at the same time while the Eagles are playing. That would be the smart thing to do or airing the Phillies, flyers or sixers games on WYSP or WIP on tape delay.
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I think KYW should broadcast all the Phillies games and then WPHT can broadcast KYW's news so you don't miss the news if you don't want to listen to the Phillies. Also if games are on at the same time, Phillies announcers can give score updates on sixers and flyers games. They can even re-enact exciting goals or baskets like they used to do in the 40's if there is time between innings. This may present a few minor technical issues, but I'm sure the producers at KYW, while they're broadcasting the Phillies and news is on WPHT, can figure all that out. If that can't be worked out, maybe the sixers or flyers could be on at the same time as the phillies, just at lower volume, so you can hear both at the same time. You'll just have to listen a lot closer to hear flyers/sixers. Doesn't that make the most sense?
 
Kyle D said:
I couldn't disagree more aindik!

I am one that DOES NOT listen to the radio with the TV muted during Eagles games. Nothing against Merrill and Mike Quick, but I'm just fine with the TV announcers.

But, in those rare times when I am in the car during a game, the sound of football in FM Stereo is AWESOME! It's going to be fun to have the games on WIP again, but only for nostalgia. Not sound.

By some of your comments, I'm guessing you're one of the people that has decided that "sporting events should only be on sports stations". Where've you been? This isn't a new thing. Stations carry sports because they make them MONEY. Truthfully, I can't believe the Eagles are the only team in this town on FM. I was in Pittsburgh a few weeks back on business and Penguins games are on FM for Pete's sake...and that's hockey (which I happen to love)!

WYSP has a rock image to "reinvigorate"?? If rock music were a sport, it would be football. Trust me, the whole "FREE FM" thing is pretty much forgotten by now. I'm guessing that if you asked the average Philadelphian on the street they would say YSP has always been a rock station. I haven't done the study, but I bet it's a pretty safe assumption.

Hey, maybe if radio's looking to get some attention again from the general public they should relegate the Eagles back to the AM band. I guarantee you there would be an outrage in this town!
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Yes, everyone has forgotten about FREE-FM, but they've also forgotten to go back and listen to WYSP. Nobody is listening. Football (cume driver that it is) dilutes the format, while MMR and RFF are rocking, YSP is talking. The game is bad enough, but four hours of pregame, and a coaches show the next day? On a rock station?

If WIP wants to be the sports leader in town, it should have all the local play by play.

I honestly don't think too many people care about the audio quality of the football radio broadcast. Sure, it sounds better on FM. Do most people listening care? I don't think so. And those that do can listen on the HD signal.
 
Yes, everyone has forgotten about FREE-FM, but they've also forgotten to go back and listen to WYSP. Nobody is listening. Football (cume driver that it is) dilutes the format, while MMR and RFF are rocking, YSP is talking. The game is bad enough, but four hours of pregame, and a coaches show the next day? On a rock station?

If WIP wants to be the sports leader in town, it should have all the local play by play.

I honestly don't think too many people care about the audio quality of the football radio broadcast. Sure, it sounds better on FM. Do most people listening care? I don't think so. And those that do can listen on the HD signal.
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I guess you don't understand that football is the BIGGEST sport in this country. Don't give me "dilutes the format"! While MMR & RFF are rocking, WYSP is making money hand over fist running the most popular game in town. If you don't get that, you don't have a very good understanding of business.

Nobody is listening? Says who? Another thread on this board talks about WYSP's January cume being down. Hmm, wonder why that is? Maybe because the Eagles season ended in December! I'm sure you'll counter by saying that the numbers for the regular format are down. Compared to where they were before the FREE-FM debacle, yeah, sure they are. But they are still pulling way bigger numbers since the flip back to rock. I guess you didn't see the stories about CBS's 4th quarter. Ratings and revenue are up.

So because WIP doesn't have all the play-by-play in town they aren't the sports leader? Where's the logic there? Just because, I'm guessing, you don't like sports, games shouldn't be on stations you want to listen to...right? You ever think that maybe it's the Eagles themselves that want the games on FM? I guarantee you that if CBS came to the Eagles and said they wanted to put the team exclusively on WIP that CBS would immediately begin courting another station group in town that will give them what they want. Their team on FM.

As for your last point, I don't think you could be more incorrect. They might not care if you ask them about it in conversation, but the minute you put the game back on AM the same people would be complaining that the games sound like crap. Remember, an overwhelming majority of the public don't listen to the radio like you and I do. They just know what they like. I promise you that there would be a HUGE public outcry if the games went to any station on the AM band.

Listen to the games on HD Radio, huh? What about the 99.5% of the population in the Greater Philadelphia area that have been smart enough not to buy one?
 
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