ABC is just the host network, several cable and OTA network are airing the debate
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ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels dropped from DirecTV in contract dispute
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currently blocked by court injunctionDisney is going to offer a standalone ESPN streaming service:
This will just lead more people to dump cable and increase the price.
ESPN as a standalone streaming service is coming in 2025
Even as it eyes a joint sports bundle with Fox and Warners, Disney is forging ahead with a standalone streaming version of ESPN.www.techhive.com
Venu Sports Launch in Peril After Fubo Wins Injunction
A federal judge has granted FuboTV a preliminary injunction that will, for now, prevent the release of Venu Sports.
www.sportico.com
and can't receive any OTA TV via antenna (or maybe even think it's illegal)
On DirecTV stream, all ABC affiliates, regardless if it's o&o, are gone
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Not WFAA. I watched it last night.
I don’t see how DirecTV could drop ABC affiliates that are NOT owned by the network. I’m sure those owners don’t want another broadcast company determining whether or not they get carriage on a video provider.
Maybe because even as affiliates, they carry ABC programming?
Does not matter. Non-ABC O&O's have their own carriage deals with pay tv services. Again, I am a DirecTV subscriber, and I was watching WFAA last night.
That has never happened in previous disputes where stations NOT owned by the network are involved.
In theory at the very most only actual network programming could be blocked by the video provider, while other programming on the station continued to be carried. But that has not been the case, AFAIK.
Wrong. Read the article I posted. ESPN's streaming only service is different from what Venu Sports is trying to offer.currently blocked by court injunction
Venu Sports Launch in Peril After Fubo Wins Injunction
A federal judge has granted FuboTV a preliminary injunction that will, for now, prevent the release of Venu Sports.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
That hadn't occurred to me, but I believe you have an excellent point there. We have multiple generations now who grew up with "television"="cable" and even if they are aware of OTA broadcasts they may think we're not supposed to be able to tune them in.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Okay, this is something (outside of radio) that I know.
Retransmission consent applies by station licensee, not by network affiliation. That is why all of Disney's O&Os are affected by the dispute with DirecTV. Here in California, the blackout affects the Los Angeles, San Francisco and Fresno markets, because in those three, Disney owns its affiliate station. Elsewhere:
Santa Barbara: KEYT/3, unaffected. San Diego: KGTV/10, also not affected. Nor is Palm Springs (KESQ/42), Bakersfield (KERO/23), Sacramento (KXTV/10) or Chico/Redding (KRCR/7). The reason: Disney does not own them and retransmission consent negotiations take place with the individual station ownership groups. (For example, if E.W. Scripps had a breakdown in talks resulting in a similar blackout, all of their stations, regardless of affiliation, would be affected, not just KGTV. They own several stations affiliated with CBS, Fox and NBC ... and a ton of Ion affiliates. In a blackout, every one of them would be affected.)
right. I watch Dallas Cowboys Football OTA, even though I have DirecTV. I watch it over the air because I sync up the radio play by play with the TV. Its a bit easier to do, even though its still a lag because either of the digital signal of the TV or the KRLD-FM runs the game in delay.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
A valid concern, indeed. And partially due to the lag in up/down transmission to/from the satellite. There shouldn't be a similar delay in terrestrial broadcasts, unless (as you suggest) there is a delay inserted by the station itself.
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There seems to be a misunderstanding in this thread. Before streaming really took off, network affiliates gave their networks the rights to negotiate retransmssion consent on their behalf for streaming services. This is why all ABC affiliates are blacked out on DirecTV Stream, but not legacy DirecTV satellite. YouTube TV had a similar carriage disupte with Disney a few years ago that took all ABC stations off that platform as well. The discrepancy is something known as the "streaming loophole" (see linked article), and the affiliates have been petitioning the FCC for years to take back their rights, as they naturally regret turning them over to their networks now that streaming is popular.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Just the other day, Nexstar's CEO Perry Sook told a conference that it was a "big mistake" to hand over their retransmission consent rights to the networks when it comes to streaming services.
www.policyband.com
Streaming Giants Have a Local TV News Problem
An FCC loophole lets the owners of networks like ABC, CBS and NBC negotiate streaming deals on behalf of their affiliates. Now a new coalition of TV station owners are planning to fight back.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Just the other day, Nexstar's CEO Perry Sook told a conference that it was a "big mistake" to hand over their retransmission consent rights to the networks when it comes to streaming services.
D.C. Memo: Nexstar CEO: 'Big Mistake' to Hand vMVPD Retrans Rights to Big 4 Networks
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www.policyband.com
There are station retrans, and then there are cable/MVPD program deals. DirecTV falls under the latter. Just like Comcast, Charter, Fios, and Dish, DirecTV pays for the network programming on their cable satellite/stream. That payment, which has been a major bone of contention, includes ESPN the second-highest program fee next to Fox News. Not only is DirecTV unhappy about Disney looking for an increase in ESPN and Disney Channel, but they've become increasingly butt-hurt over having to pay these escalator fees to carry programming during rampant cord-cutting. Then Disney adds insult to injury by competing against cable and DirecTV by streaming around cable/satellite. Essentially, cable companies are upset because they have to buy Disney programming staring down the barrel of a gun with Disney also competing against them.
Regarding local ABC stations carried via DirecTV being blocked, that's because the beef is with DirecTV.
Only the ABC O and O’s are blocked. Not the ABC affiliates owned by other companies.
Incorrect. On DirecTV streaming all the ABC affiliates are off. I have Hubbard owned KSTP and it's blocked on DirecTV streaming. My mom has satellite and they still have KSTP.
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