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False and Apparently "AI" Derived News Story about KNX's FM changing Format in LA.
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Meantime, this is in the works:
www.hollywoodreporter.com
This Startup Wants to Create an AI-Generated CNN
Channel 1 News, from former 'Tosh.0' veteran Scott Zabielski and entrepreneur Adam Mosam, plans to use generative AI to create personalized newscasts.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
This reminds me a lot of that PD at (can't recall the calls) who was voicetracking shows but using a speech synthesizer over her own voice and calling it AI. Having graphical representations like video came characters reading a script isn't AI, it's a gimmick playing on the AI news frenzy.
Did you miss the part in the article about using AI to gather information and write the script?
One of the most interesting yet challenging parts of moderating a board such as this one lies in how topic deviations, sidebars and the like are handled.
Another radio board immediately moves posts that are off topic and kills threads that are not "acceptable". Here, we are a bit less rigid and that is on purpose. Simply put, some of the sub-topics that are spawned by the original subject are interesting and valuable.
Yes, we can be annoyed by a discussion of, let's say, playlist size, that somehow goes off into McDonald's menu items from the 70's. If those "huh?" posts don't lead the whole thread astray, we leave them and ignore them.
The key for participants is learning what... and even "who" to ignore. For example, I'm not interested in song-by-song dissections of certain formats, and skip or scan those posts. But some others seem to find that dialogue interesting; I just think that a station plays what its latest music test told it to play and drilling to the song-by-song level is not valuable or interesting.
But I don't insult the folks who post about 90's Alt Rock cuts that "got played in Kansas City but not in Topeka".
Again, it is very hard to look at thousands of posts and decide exactly when one has gone too far off topic. Frank and I and our team can't possibly do active moderation every time. That means splitting posts and creating a new thread, which takes a lot of time. Most threads are like sailboats... they right themselves when the wind dies down.
The real issue with the past is that technology changes faster than humans evolve. So we have some "historical" subjects that are just as valid today as 50 years ago, and others that are totally irrelevant. None of us always see the difference.
If everyone, you and I and everyone else included, stop tossing cow chips on the fire, it will die out and we can move on.
Yes, but likely it will be edited and reviewed by a human. Same goes with the concerns of SAG/AFTRA and writers; so far nobody is proposing to just follow an AI-generated script with no human editorial review. The premise of what AI would come up with might be intriguing, so ultimately the studios can slash the cost of paying writers and residuals. Agree it's not great by cutting people who don't get paid much anyway by effectively automating them out of a job, but that sort of thing has been ongoing for centuries. Just as robots have replaced a lot of assembly line workers at auto plants, they still use humans for QC. I can see something similar with scriptwriting.
I prefer tossing mesquite chips on the fire. Cow chips are too old school.
Sorry for taking us a bit off topic again, but I also don't think it's at all hurtful to occasionally discuss technologies and methodology of the past and how things were once done. That doesn't mean the RD users who bring up or chat about those topics are necessarily stuck in a time warp or still practicing those things, yet I often see them heavily criticized for doing so - somewhat unfairly. Personally, I got into the business in the final years of analog, when jocks were live 24/7; I lived and worked through the transition to digital and computer automation and currently work in a facility that's on the "bleeding edge" of technology. That said, I'm still amused when I go to a facility I worked on 20 years ago and though it's been upgraded a few times since, I come across a huge, thick binder on a shelft, full of plastic sleeves holding pages of 3.5" floppy discs, containing all the original operating systems, programs and backups. To me it's a fun reminder of where we were not so many years ago, but more importantly, how far we've come since. I still enjoy seeing people commenting on things like the "art" of back timing that DJs used to take pride in so they could come out of a record or song and perfectly nail the TOH sounder and news break. I still think it's fun to chat about creative "old-school" engineering, black boxes that were built to achieve unique needs and the pride engineers took in designing and building them, especially before the days of the internet when the world was a smaller place, information and answers weren't always so readily available at ones' fingertips and sometimes we had to pull off the seemingly impossible - and we made it happen.
However, I've seen people on RD ridiculed and quickly shut down for mentioning those types of things - blown off as being a relic, criticized for bringing up topics that are no longer relevant and asked why they even mention ideas of the past. While there may be some truth to that, I also don't think there's any harm in looking back on a different time and era, and reliving an old memory here and there or chuckling at the way we had to survive and do things then. As mentioned before, I look on RD as being akin to a coffee shop full of radio and engineering types, shooting the breeze. Talking about past days and how things were once done can be a part of that. That, of course, is very different than someone trying to convince everyone else on RD that the AM band is still more viable than newer technologies that are superior and have surpassed it and seemingly trying to steer numerous discussion threads back to that same idea. It's also different than taking people completely off-topic and down a multi-page discussion about OTA antennas, the continued use of CRT TVs, VHS machines, random converters and analog devices to try and pull in and record programs in 2023.
As Rodney King once said, “Can’t we all get along? Can we stop making it horrible for the older people and the kids?“
What does any of this have to do with the topic of AI?
Probably because they've thoughtlessly decided to veer off topic onto something unrelated?
So you don't think there are ample other topics to relive the good ol'days? You think it's okay to hijack a thread to talk about something completely unrelated? Catch my drift?
It's a discussion board with many different topics and interests. In my mind that doesn't mean the coffee clutch of old-timers should jump into discussions that they don't know about, nor can relate to. Just like the coffee shop, the behavior would be considered just plain rude.
I would almost welcome that discussion, assuming they brought something to the party that didn't devolve into their listening habits from 1987, what they had for dinner, or that they need help operating the ceiling fan in their hotel room.
Now that you mentioned it; I'm sure someone will jump in next and start their opinion on the Beta vs. VHS discussion, who had the best wooden cabinet radios, and something political in nature. Nothing having to do with the thread topic.
I think AI is a powerful tool that must be used carefully and wisely, especially as it becomes more and more advanced.
As far as news reporting and article writing, it could help with some of the more mundane tasks, I suppose, but I think it would be a long time before it can meaningfully displace human writers, editors, reporters and news anchors because it lacks creativity and critical thinking (AI does everything by rote). The tendency to hallucinate is really problematic too, and could potentially be disastrous.
In the meantime, the phrase Caveat Emptor (Let The Buyer Beware) would seem to apply, so let's all take heed and not buy into all the hype and clickbait.
How's that for being on topic?
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As far as news reporting and article writing, it could help with some of the more mundane tasks, I suppose, but I think it would be a long time before it can meaningfully displace human writers, editors, reporters and news anchors because it lacks creativity and critical thinking (AI does everything by rote). The tendency to hallucinate is really problematic too, and could potentially be disastrous.
In the meantime, the phrase Caveat Emptor (Let The Buyer Beware) would seem to apply, so let's all take heed and not buy into all the hype and clickbait.
How's that for being on topic?
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Eh, I might have more to say about it. You guys can just not look.
I almost feel seen here - though in the mid-90s it would be more like "Alt Rock cuts that got played in Lawrence but not in Kansas City"!
There are things I'd like to say about this - remember that I have a journalism background - but this discussion has raced forward, I need time to gather my thoughts, and I have a lot of other things to do right now. So this is one parade I'm probably going to have to miss.
I’ll keep looking! I like these lively discussions and I value everyone’s opinions (even one’s that aren’t my own). I feel like everyone on this board contributes in some way and every opinion enlightens us to a different way of thinking. I say, let the fun continue!
I guess it is Ok to not worry about the truth in news.
I guess you don't care about the truth. They have "news" in their name. Would not one assume they are trying to be a News Site?
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