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Farthest you have heard WOKI 100.3 Knoxville... Now WNOX

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Back in the day when we didnt have anything here on 100.3, One day I picked up WOKI here near Indianapolis during summer dropo, back when it was Top 40 as I-100... Has anyone heard it any farther than this,, their signal doesnt make it as far north on DX as it used to.. I know you used to be able to easily receive it near the Cincinatti Area when DX would hit, but it dont even make it to Lexington anymore.
 
I remember when Winchester,KY was 3KW on 100.1, you'd get WOKI (good station in the day) until you got near Lexington, then it would re-appear west of Lexington. And you're right, I did hear it on a very average portable radio in Cincy in 1973 even though WCNB/Connersville was on the same channel at 32 miles...WOKI was a serious flame thrower, in the same league with WSGS/Hazard,KY at 101.1...that one still marches in here full time at 207 miles on the FM yagis & pretty often on the car radio.
 
Yeah, I often get the country station on 101.1 Hazard up here too.. Is it still on mono like it was for years? Also, have you ever been able to hear WOKI 100.3 in Indiana, or even near Louisville? I heard it on top the ridge in Martinsville back in 1992 very briefly but long enough to hear them say I-100 WOKI Oak Ridge Knoxville, they were playing Top 40 back then.. The 100.3 in Connersville moved into Columbus as Korn Country, and its pretty strong signal in Martinsville, so I doubt I ever hear 100.3 Knoxville up here ever again.. Also, wasnt their another Top 40 station on 100.1 in Winchester Lexington in the early 90s called X-100,,, I remember it had a really weak signal, and going south on I-75 WOKI on 100.3 would hammer it out about 15 miles south of Lexington around Richmond.Ive also picked up WKSF 99.9 Asheville along I-64 between Louisville and Lexington, but WDJX Louisville was bleeding in on it real bad.. Never heard WKSF in Indiana though, but about 45 minutes away from the Ind, KY Boarder. Can you pull in WDJX with a good antenna and tuner where you live, I can hardly ever get it here in Martinsville,, Too much splatter from WZPL and WTHI, and sometimes I get Shine 99 instead. Its also very hard to DX 95.7 QMF here because of adjacent 95.5 WFMS,, but I have received both stations here on occasion.. I get WXKF Kiss fm 98.9 almost all the time here, but very weak, but sometimes strong in early morning when Extended Ground wave DX is happening. Also, I used to sometimes get a CHR station from Somerset KY here in Indiana on 93.9, but the band here is too congested for that now, and that station hasnt been CHR for like 15 years at least. Do you know what station im talking about?
 
With a directional antenna, this one was easy in Springfield Ohio. It was also easy in
Indianapolis. 103.5 and 107.9 were easy as well. Indy had no 107.9 at the time.

I have also heard these Koxville area stations 80 miles north of Indianapolis several
times 20 years ago. They have the power to go a long way if they are not covered up by locals.

I have found that 400 miles is common for 100,000 watts. 300 miles for 50,000 watts. 100 miles for
10 watts. But you must have a decent receiver with a directional antenna to do this. Otherwise you
might think 100 miles for 50,000 watts is good DX.
 
Mid West Clubber said:
Yeah, I often get the country station on 101.1 Hazard up here too.. Is it still on mono like it was for years? Also, have you ever been able to hear WOKI 100.3 in Indiana, or even near Louisville? I heard it on top the ridge in Martinsville back in 1992 very briefly but long enough to hear them say I-100 WOKI Oak Ridge Knoxville, they were playing Top 40 back then.. The 100.3 in Connersville moved into Columbus as Korn Country, and its pretty strong signal in Martinsville, so I doubt I ever hear 100.3 Knoxville up here ever again.. Also, wasnt their another Top 40 station on 100.1 in Winchester Lexington in the early 90s called X-100,,, I remember it had a really weak signal, and going south on I-75 WOKI on 100.3 would hammer it out about 15 miles south of Lexington around Richmond.Ive also picked up WKSF 99.9 Asheville along I-64 between Louisville and Lexington, but WDJX Louisville was bleeding in on it real bad.. Never heard WKSF in Indiana though, but about 45 minutes away from the Ind, KY Boarder. Can you pull in WDJX with a good antenna and tuner where you live, I can hardly ever get it here in Martinsville,, Too much splatter from WZPL and WTHI, and sometimes I get Shine 99 instead. Its also very hard to DX 95.7 QMF here because of adjacent 95.5 WFMS,, but I have received both stations here on occasion.. I get WXKF Kiss fm 98.9 almost all the time here, but very weak, but sometimes strong in early morning when Extended Ground wave DX is happening. Also, I used to sometimes get a CHR station from Somerset KY here in Indiana on 93.9, but the band here is too congested for that now, and that station hasnt been CHR for like 15 years at least. Do you know what station im talking about?
Selectivity is not an issue here. WKKG 101.5's 50KW is visible out the kitchen window, yet WFMG 101.3 in Richmond is in the clear. Getting this level of selectivity is easy & inexpensive. Go to www.dxfm.com & click the "Products and Services" link on the left. Near the top of that page is an ad for MuRata IF filters. Your existing tuner almost certainly has wide filters, which may be removed & replaced with either 110khz or 150khz or even 180khz filters (as the link suggests, it's best to put IC sockets in your tuner in place of the existing filters...that way you can try various configurations to see how much selectivity you want...too much & your audio quality will get raspy on weak signals). I believe I have 3 or 4 150khz filters in the narrow IF strip of my Pioneer TX 9500 II tuner. Before the IBOC/HD hiss started from WFMS, I would see WFMS 95.5's signal, then the signal meter would drop and then it would come back up as I got to 95.7 WQMF...there was actually a small blank spot between WFMS and WQMF. Been a while since I bought any of these filters, but they were a couple bucks each several years ago. That will give you a huge bang for the buck improvement in DX capability. Next step up from there is a phase box, which uses two yagis to null out semi-locals to reveal signals underneath them. Good example...I'm 12 miles from 95.9 WFDM/Franklin. It's an easy matter for me to null them out & get WTTS' Bloomington translator on that same channel at 35 miles. But this requires 2 yagis. 2 rotors, two towers or masts, 2 attenuators & a phase box. Far more complex than the IF filter upgrade, but if you want to perform DX miracles, that's what's next on the list. Regarding WDJX, my tallest FM yagi is line of sight to the WDJX/etc antenna farm. It comes in on the car radio most days & reads almost a 5 on the 0-5 s meter. There's a low power TV station on channel 28 on the same hill down there. It comes in quite watchable here. I'm blessed with good terrain to the south, but in your direction (west...well actually east and west I'm not in good shape), I am not as lucky. WFXW 38 is better than the 28 LPTV from near Louisville, but it's 5000000 watts vs 30000 watts at similar distances. The Louisville UHF's are all locals here at 70 miles.
 
I have also seen Knoxville on television several times in Indiana. Channel 10 and 30. When the tropo is really good channel 57 from Hazard Kentucky.

JVC made an FM tuner 30 years ago that I love. It would receive 92.9 and 93.3 one mile away from a class B on 93.1 in Indianapolis.
 
Which 92.9 Dutchman,,, was it the old Z93 in Dayton.. Ive heard that, and also a country station from Lexington Ky,,, U-93 South Bend, and the 92.9 from Flora Illinois. Ive receivd all these 92.9 stations here in Martinsville........ Also,,, was it the 93.3 thats down in South East near Cinci, or the 93.3 in Linton Indiana,,, I receive the 93.3 from Linton Indiana in martinsville almost every morning,, its easier to DX on 92.9 and 93.3 since 93.1 is now all talk, cause it doesnt bleed over as loud ya know... I still wish WNOU was still on a powerful stick like 93.1,,,, I love WNOU and I get just a moderate signal here in Martinsville,,,, but with that said, I actually think I like the programming better since Radio One bought them and put them on 100.9... Thanks so much Radio One,,, we would be stuck with no CHR at all if you hadnt resurected what Emmis killed.
 
Clubber
The answer is all of them. If your directional antenna has a gain of 20 times, 6,000 watts becomes 120,.000.
50,000 becomes one million. It's all about power. And a stations power is much more important than it's HAAT
when it comes to DXing tropo.

For example, 90.1 in Indy once was 10,000 at 40 feet HAAT. They increased thei HAAt by several hundred feet.
Locally their signal was much improved. But 140 miles east, I was receiving with tropo. No difference. 93.1 from
Indy was 50,000 at 300 feet. They lowerd their power to 10,000 watts and increased their HAAT to 1,000 feet.
Their signal went down in Ohio.

When DXing with tropo it's about power!!!!
 
Flying-Dutchman said:
Clubber
The answer is all of them. If your directional antenna has a gain of 20 times, 6,000 watts becomes 120,.000.
50,000 becomes one million. It's all about power. And a stations power is much more important than it's HAAT
when it comes to DXing tropo.

For example, 90.1 in Indy once was 10,000 at 40 feet HAAT. They increased thei HAAt by several hundred feet.
Locally their signal was much improved. But 140 miles east, I was receiving with tropo. No difference. 93.1 from
Indy was 50,000 at 300 feet. They lowerd their power to 10,000 watts and increased their HAAT to 1,000 feet.
Their signal went down in Ohio.

When DXing with tropo it's about power!!!!
Minor point, but I think 93.1 is operating with 12.5KW. 93.1 in Columbus is much better now than it was in 1977. I do agree....with tropo, line of sight isn't much of a factor...I once logged New York City on FM and the only station I heard was a college station at a couple hundred feet...nothing present from any of the big signals on the Empire State Building.
 
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