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Fox News Channel Beats MSNBC & CNN Combined in February Ratings

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Glenn Beck time period up 101% (121% 25-54). Hannity without Colmes up 38% as is Bret Baier (lead in is Beck). Bill O'Reilly up 33%. Shepard up 30%. Greta up 24%. Total day up 29%. 28% in primetime.

HLN's Nancy Grace for the third month in a row is beating Keith Olbermann in 25-54 demo.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser...nd_msnbc_combined_in_total_viewers_109560.asp

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/02/fox-news-and-ms.html

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/179815-Cable_News_Ratings_Fox_News_Still_Tops.php
 
And don't forget HUCKABEE beating the pants off of everyone else on Weekend evenings since September! ;D I think he's been #1 Cable News in his time slot on Saturday nights since he started.
 
KML-224 said:
I hate the FOX Noise Channel. If you're not a Republican, they won't care about you. :(

I predict Fox News will do very well during the Obama era as the TV voice of the opposition.

Look at conservative talk radio and the years in the 90s they grew so much in popularity and influence. It was during the Clinton Administration.
 
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
HLN's Nancy Grace for the third month in a row is beating Keith Olbermann in 25-54 demo.

Ugh, if I hear that woman say "Kyeallee" one more time I'm going to throw a rock into my TV.
 
Dish Network customers have been receiving FNC in the clear since early January. Every bit helps, I suppose, since that's everyone with an operable receiver.

Hey, Charlie...give me something that's not so obviously run by conservative propagandists, eh?
 
I do agree with those who expect Fox News to do well in the Obama era.

Essentially, it's a business model that consists of running programming that appeals to conservative/Republican "true believers" -- the same thing that has made Rush Limbaugh very successful. While that's not a large enough percentage of the population to win an election, it certainly is a large enough group to generate extremely respectable ratings numbers in today's fragmented media universe.

However, the danger of this approach is that they'll become increasingly irrelevant to everyone else. So their ratings will be good, but their actual influence is likely to be negligible.
 
KML-224 said:
I hate the FOX Noise Channel. If you're not a Republican, they won't care about you. :(

UGH, you sound like Kanye West after Katrina.
Ok, Fox leans right, MSNBC (for the few who actually watch it) leans horribly left. CNN is also pretty left-leaning, but probably the most balanced. The point is, you need to take care what's you're watching regardless of the channel.
 
whitfm said:
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
HLN's Nancy Grace for the third month in a row is beating Keith Olbermann in 25-54 demo.

Ugh, if I hear that woman say "Kyeallee" one more time I'm going to throw a rock into my TV.

I despise HLN, or the missing child channel as they should call it.
 
CNN is also pretty left-leaning, but probably the most balanced.

Huh? How can both of these statements be simultaneously true? What is true is that the presence of Fox, at least among some in the viewing population, causes a network like CNN, with a fairly straight-ahead, objective presentation, to be perceived as "left", simply because it doesn't have a Fox-like conservative bias.
 
talkjim said:
CNN is also pretty left-leaning, but probably the most balanced.

Huh? How can both of these statements be simultaneously true? What is true is that the presence of Fox, at least among some in the viewing population, causes a network like CNN, with a fairly straight-ahead, objective presentation, to be perceived as "left", simply because it doesn't have a Fox-like conservative bias.

My point is, Fox is over to the right, but MSNBC is waaaay over to the left. CNN lies somewhere in between, but I would not call it "in the middle."
 
How much longer before I stop having to pay for MSNBC in my cable package?
 
Based on ratings, I would say that MSNBC may only give you a 5 cent reduction in your cable bill. FOX News should be the one with the huge fee. :D
 
formeraa said:
Based on ratings, I would say that MSNBC may only give you a 5 cent reduction in your cable bill. FOX News should be the one with the huge fee. :D

I wouldn't mind ditching them as well.
 
What's funny is how there is now a great cry about bias in the media. There was a time in this country when the accepted method was to select your media based on its bias. Col. McCormick in chicago, Hearst everywhere, Ochs in NY, Kaltenborn, Ed Murrow and Walter Winchell nationally. They all had a bias and people loved them for it. There was a balance in that if you didn't like one go to the other. I guess it became a problem within in the last fifty years when people started going into journalism to "change the world" rather than report on someone else changing it and most of the media practitioners took a left turn. What was interesting to me was I recorded newscats off of each network. Not a personality show like Hannity or King but news. I compared the two of them as to stories covered and information provided and they were virtually identical.
 
ricksegers said:
What's funny is how there is now a great cry about bias in the media. There was a time in this country when the accepted method was to select your media based on its bias. Col. McCormick in chicago, Hearst everywhere, Ochs in NY, Kaltenborn, Ed Murrow and Walter Winchell nationally. They all had a bias and people loved them for it. There was a balance in that if you didn't like one go to the other. I guess it became a problem within in the last fifty years when people started going into journalism to "change the world" rather than report on someone else changing it and most of the media practitioners took a left turn. What was interesting to me was I recorded newscats off of each network. Not a personality show like Hannity or King but news. I compared the two of them as to stories covered and information provided and they were virtually identical.
When there were just three evening network newscasts, there was no "balance". They all leaned to the left and hid the truth as they pleased (for the left as they still do - NBC to the extreme left today, of course). We did not have much talkradio or many other sources of information except newspapers, most of which also leaned and continue to lean to the left (the ones that haven't folded yet), so how would we know? We were in the dark. But we're smarter today thanks to cable news, talkradio and the internet.

Today we have much more information available at our fingertips from hundreds of thousands of sources. Everyone in the government is under much more scrutiny today. Deservedly so. We need even more of a microscope put on politicians and thankfully it won't be done by the "old media".

Fox News Channel has more Democrats and Independents watching it than Republicans. So all those in this thread who think it's right leaning, you are off balance yourselves. Fox News is the TRUE meaning of "fair and balanced". Embrace it and get over your own bias.
 
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
ricksegers said:
What's funny is how there is now a great cry about bias in the media. There was a time in this country when the accepted method was to select your media based on its bias. Col. McCormick in chicago, Hearst everywhere, Ochs in NY, Kaltenborn, Ed Murrow and Walter Winchell nationally. They all had a bias and people loved them for it. There was a balance in that if you didn't like one go to the other. I guess it became a problem within in the last fifty years when people started going into journalism to "change the world" rather than report on someone else changing it and most of the media practitioners took a left turn. What was interesting to me was I recorded newscats off of each network. Not a personality show like Hannity or King but news. I compared the two of them as to stories covered and information provided and they were virtually identical.
When there were just three evening network newscasts, there was no "balance". They all leaned to the left and hid the truth as they pleased (for the left as they still do - NBC to the extreme left today, of course). We did not have much talkradio or many other sources of information except newspapers, most of which also leaned and continue to lean to the left (the ones that haven't folded yet), so how would we know? We were in the dark. But we're smarter today thanks to cable news, talkradio and the internet.

Today we have much more information available at our fingertips from hundreds of thousands of sources. Everyone in the government is under much more scrutiny today. Deservedly so. We need even more of a microscope put on politicians and thankfully it won't be done by the "old media".

Fox News Channel has more Democrats and Independents watching it than Republicans. So all those in this thread who think it's right leaning, you are off balance yourselves. Fox News is the TRUE meaning of "fair and balanced". Embrace it and get over your own bias.

There's probably no point having this argument...people perceive bias based on their own political viewpoints. So FoxNews seems "fair and balanced" to those with conservative views, while CNN appears left-wing. Liberals see Fox as outrageously right-wing and CNN as unbiased.

My own feelings as a liberal - I perceive Fox to be on the right, and I don't think anybody is trying to hide it. Roger Ailes was the major force in the creation of FoxNews. He was a media consultant and advisor to Nixon, Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Rudy Giuliani. Ya think he might be a conservative??

Rupert Murdoch stated quite explicitly a number of times that the network was designed as a conservative alternative, and it's been very successful doing so. He's also hinted around that he's not personally as conservative as his network. Remember that Murdoch got his start with British tabloids featuring female naked boobs on the front page. The regular Fox network runs more risque and bold programming than the other 3 networks. Original FX programming features more profanity, nudity, sex, and violence than any other basic cable network.

It's all about the money, folks.
 
Lkeller said:
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
ricksegers said:
What's funny is how there is now a great cry about bias in the media. There was a time in this country when the accepted method was to select your media based on its bias. Col. McCormick in chicago, Hearst everywhere, Ochs in NY, Kaltenborn, Ed Murrow and Walter Winchell nationally. They all had a bias and people loved them for it. There was a balance in that if you didn't like one go to the other. I guess it became a problem within in the last fifty years when people started going into journalism to "change the world" rather than report on someone else changing it and most of the media practitioners took a left turn. What was interesting to me was I recorded newscats off of each network. Not a personality show like Hannity or King but news. I compared the two of them as to stories covered and information provided and they were virtually identical.
When there were just three evening network newscasts, there was no "balance". They all leaned to the left and hid the truth as they pleased (for the left as they still do - NBC to the extreme left today, of course). We did not have much talkradio or many other sources of information except newspapers, most of which also leaned and continue to lean to the left (the ones that haven't folded yet), so how would we know? We were in the dark. But we're smarter today thanks to cable news, talkradio and the internet.

Today we have much more information available at our fingertips from hundreds of thousands of sources. Everyone in the government is under much more scrutiny today. Deservedly so. We need even more of a microscope put on politicians and thankfully it won't be done by the "old media".

Fox News Channel has more Democrats and Independents watching it than Republicans. So all those in this thread who think it's right leaning, you are off balance yourselves. Fox News is the TRUE meaning of "fair and balanced". Embrace it and get over your own bias.

There's probably no point having this argument...people perceive bias based on their own political viewpoints. So FoxNews seems "fair and balanced" to those with conservative views, while CNN appears left-wing. Liberals see Fox as outrageously right-wing and CNN as unbiased.

My own feelings as a liberal - I perceive Fox to be on the right, and I don't think anybody is trying to hide it. Roger Ailes was the major force in the creation of FoxNews. He was a media consultant and advisor to Nixon, Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Rudy Giuliani. Ya think he might be a conservative??

Rupert Murdoch stated quite explicitly a number of times that the network was designed as a conservative alternative, and it's been very successful doing so. He's also hinted around that he's not personally as conservative as his network. Remember that Murdoch got his start with British tabloids featuring female naked boobs on the front page. The regular Fox network runs more risque and bold programming than the other 3 networks. Original FX programming features more profanity, nudity, sex, and violence than any other basic cable network.

It's all about the money, folks.
Like most liberals, you have no facts but good imagination. Now, let's talk facts:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-n...ubt-about-it-all-fox-news-tipping-obama-s-way

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-bl...fox-most-fair-balanced-thus-far-prez-campaign

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...ton-official-fox-news-religiously-middle-road

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/02/12/hillary-suggests-fox-news-fairer-her-msnbc
 
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