FOX PLANNING 90 MIN. SATURDAY NIGHT CARTOON BLOCK FOR 11PM (2013 START)

[Nate Wesley]

This would be the longest program night for Fox and on a Saturday night at that.
8-10PM regular Fox, LOCAL at 10PM, Fox cartoon block at 11PM-12:30AM. Seems to put
another nail in the "Don't bother putting anything on Saturday night because nobody is
watching" concept.
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/16472294/fox-to-start-showing-saturday-night-cartoons

Really Gregg, late night Saturday?

It's a venture aping the success of Adult Swim using an Adult Swim exec, not a new slate of primetime shows. I guarantee you that nobody at Fox TV is banking on this venture to be a major ratings juggernaut. If this Fox block gets new media buys aimed at young adults, great--there's much more pressure for a big turnout with shows like New Girl and Bones. If its lasting enough to get media buys and spur merchandise sales (DVDs, T-shirts, mobile apps and games) in a matter similar to Adult Swim, even better.

 

[dhett]

Again - I reference the irony of News Corporation running America's favorite conservative right-wing news network (loved by Evangelicals everywhere), while they run the most censor-able and arguably tasteless programming in the broadcast industry.

There is definitely cognitive dissonance at work here.

Not really. I laugh when I read that people think that Rupert Murdoch is some sort of conservative trying to push his views on America through Roger Ailes, or when people hate on the Fox broadcasting network because they think it's Fox News. I'm convinced that Murdoch has only one lord and master - money - and that each network is positioned to bring in as much of that as possible.

 

[justpassingthough]

Again - I reference the irony of News Corporation running America's favorite conservative right-wing news network (loved by Evangelicals everywhere), while they run the most censor-able and arguably tasteless programming in the broadcast industry.

There is definitely cognitive dissonance at work here.

Not really. I laugh when I read that people think that Rupert Murdoch is some sort of conservative trying to push his views on America through Roger Ailes, or when people hate on the Fox broadcasting network because they think it's Fox News. I'm convinced that Murdoch has only one lord and master - money - and that each network is positioned to bring in as much of that as possible.

When Rupert Murdoch, a much more known public figure than anyone who runs or owns a portion of Viacom, CBS, Comcast, Disney or any of the other big players, takes to Twitter and endorses a Republican candidate while slamming President Obama's "anti-business" stance, he opens himself up to commentary or criticism of his views. Its not like he is silently in the background. He spoke openly about his beliefs, so others are allowed to comment on it.

Still, I agree he is probably beholden to no one but the almighty dollar- so some of the criticism can be a little off base.

"Family Guy" specifically targets Fox News and steers clear from naming Murdoch or Ailes as the ones pulling the strings. They're far from being the first to point out the tactics Fox News uses to disseminate "information", though.

 

[LKellerIII]

Again - I reference the irony of News Corporation running America's favorite conservative right-wing news network (loved by Evangelicals everywhere), while they run the most censor-able and arguably tasteless programming in the broadcast industry.

There is definitely cognitive dissonance at work here.

Not really. I laugh when I read that people think that Rupert Murdoch is some sort of conservative trying to push his views on America through Roger Ailes, or when people hate on the Fox broadcasting network because they think it's Fox News. I'm convinced that Murdoch has only one lord and master - money - and that each network is positioned to bring in as much of that as possible.

I agree completely. Murdoch's goal is to make as much money as possible. When I referenced "cognitive dissonance," I didn't mean Murdoch - I meant among the fans of Fox News who think that network is fighting the good fight for conservative values, when it is an division of a larger corporation that does quite the opposite in the name of entertainment.

The same can be said about NBC Universal - before and after Comcast. Many have posted here that it's a tool of the left-wing - all because MSNBC runs a few lefty commentators at night to counter-program Fox. All you have to do to burst that fallacy is watch CNBC for awhile. While the CNBC commentators are naturally focused on business, politics does come up - and their views are generally very conservative.

 

[dhett]

and their views are generally very conservative.

Fiscally conservative, I'm sure. Not having cable or satellite service, I don't know where each CNBC commentators stands on social issues, but I would imagine that being a business-oriented channel, those issues don't come up nearly as often, and when they do, I would assume that they would take the same position that the business community usually takes on social issues: social conservatism is bad for business.

For that reason, social conservatives, especially the aforementioned evangelicals, often lump business conservatives in with liberals. Since the business community isn't necessarily opposed to government spending, especially when they are the beneficiaries of the largesse, small government and anti-tax conservatives also tend to lump business conservatives in with liberals.

I don't imagine that everyone sees CNBC as very conservative, but even so, CNBC is a conservative island in the liberal sea that is NBC/Universal/Comcast, and a relatively small island at that. One could also say that Fox News is a conservative island in the liberal sea that is Fox, but Fox News is a much bigger and more prominent island.

 

[LKellerIII]

and their views are generally very conservative.

Fiscally conservative, I'm sure. Not having cable or satellite service, I don't know where each CNBC commentators stands on social issues, but I would imagine that being a business-oriented channel, those issues don't come up nearly as often, and when they do, I would assume that they would take the same position that the business community usually takes on social issues: social conservatism is bad for business.

For that reason, social conservatives, especially the aforementioned evangelicals, often lump business conservatives in with liberals. Since the business community isn't necessarily opposed to government spending, especially when they are the beneficiaries of the largesse, small government and anti-tax conservatives also tend to lump business conservatives in with liberals.

I don't imagine that everyone sees CNBC as very conservative, but even so, CNBC is a conservative island in the liberal sea that is NBC/Universal/Comcast, and a relatively small island at that. One could also say that Fox News is a conservative island in the liberal sea that is Fox, but Fox News is a much bigger and more prominent island.

I don't disagree with anything you said. Though some business people are surely social conservatives, you are probably right that most aren't. Another area of disagreement would probably be illegal immigration. Most business people are quiretly in favor of illegal immigration, as it keeps the cost of labor down.

Don't make the mistake though of thinking that CNBC is not prominent - they are a highly watched and respected source for business news. I think Fox will have a much harder time taking ratings share away from CNBC with their Fox Business network. While regular Fox News filled a definite need for an alternative news source for conservative viewers, there is no such need in the business community, for the reasons you state above. I doubt business oriented viewers are particularly interested in watching John Stossel and Lou Dobbs bloviate - Larry Kudlow is more their speed, and Larry is plenty conservative.

And out of curiosity - what evidence do you have that NBC/Universal/Comcast is a "liberal sea"...other than the fact that they run of few hours of liberal commentators every night? I'd bet my right arem that most Comcast/NBC executives and upper management are your typical conservative Republicans.

 

[Kurt Toy]

...and what does Howard Stern have to say about all this? I honestly do not know if I'm being funny or serious! ;D (I mention this because he once had a show on this timeslot with FOX)

I thought it was on CBS stations.

 

[Mario500]

Yeziknoradio must have been referring to "The Howard Stern Radio Show", which was a syndicated TV program.

 

[dhett]

And out of curiosity - what evidence do you have that NBC/Universal/Comcast is a "liberal sea"...other than the fact that they run of few hours of liberal commentators every night? I'd bet my right arem that most Comcast/NBC executives and upper management are your typical conservative Republicans.

First, let's dismiss MSNBC - that's a given.

Speaking as a social conservative, when I watch NBC, I see "liberal" everywhere. From the comedies, to the dramas, to the news, right down to the green bug they like to run from time to time. Everything about NBC is in lock step with the liberal point of view. How often does one see socially conservative values presented in a positive light? Not often. From acceptance of pre- and extra-marital relations to homosexuality to global warming/climate change, liberal values rule their airwaves. Conservative values are presented as "extremist" and "bigoted". Politically speaking, why is there no conservative counterpart to Chris Matthews on NBC? Who at NBC gets a tingle up their leg for conservative candidates?

Again, I would see your bet re: Comcast/NBC execs, and raise you the idea that they are the business conservative type. The Donald Trump type. Fiscally conservative, but socially liberal.