charlestondxman said:
Yeah I thought there was a station in mid Florida on 720.
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Furthest Station From The East Or West Coast You Have Received???
- Thread starter KidDooWop
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Yeah I thought there was a station in mid Florida on 720.
WRZN (720, Hernando, FL....near Ocala) indeed has a fine 10kw daytime signal. Makes it all the way to the Alabama gulf coast via saltwater path, and is audible just about anywhere in the northern half of the peninsula.
Nighttime however, is another matter entirely. The combination of 250 watts directional (south) and lousy ground conductivity renders the station invisible in a big chunk of it's daytime listening area. A few years ago I was in a hotel south of Ocala...about 20 miles from the WRZN stick. WGN didn't have all that great of a signal there, but it was still plenty good enough to clobber WRZN.
Nighttime however, is another matter entirely. The combination of 250 watts directional (south) and lousy ground conductivity renders the station invisible in a big chunk of it's daytime listening area. A few years ago I was in a hotel south of Ocala...about 20 miles from the WRZN stick. WGN didn't have all that great of a signal there, but it was still plenty good enough to clobber WRZN.
cd637299 said:
This evening (and last) I'm parked on 1700 and am quite certain that I'm snagging every station listed on the amloglist for that frequency.
I've had some Creole popping in (stronger this evening than last), which is presumed WJCC (again kind of surprising, as I'd expect something more powerful to be my first Florida catch!). KVNS (with its 'oldies') I've snagged on a previous occasion. However, last evening, I've also heard both presumed KKLF & KBGG run ESPN in parallel, until the later broke away to carry the Iowa game. Also in there is the black gospel WEUP (nice call letters!
) from Huntsville AL, really whipping up a storm tonight.It's a rather interesting frequency. Before folks knock down to their night pattern, you can fetch quite a variety. 8)
~BG
Tincap said:cd637299 said:
This evening (and last) I'm parked on 1700 and am quite certain that I'm snagging every station listed on the amloglist for that frequency.
I've had some Creole popping in (stronger this evening than last), which is presumed WJCC (again kind of surprising, as I'd expect something more powerful to be my first Florida catch!). KVNS (with its 'oldies') I've snagged on a previous occasion. However, last evening, I've also heard both presumed KKLF & KBGG run ESPN in parallel, until the later broke away to carry the Iowa game. Also in there is the black gospel WEUP (nice call letters!
It's a rather interesting frequency. Before folks knock down to their night pattern, you can fetch quite a variety. 8)
~BG
When I was in Hawaii XEPE was the only one I heard on 1700.
BobOnTheJob said:
I got KSL here in Worcester MA on a 1939 RCA 811K console with an approx 400' long wire antenna my first night of BCB DXing ever in 1977. I've had that radio almost 40 years and it still works, needs some new caps as it hums but that's about it.
I get a lot of Tran Atlantic signals here in MA now but that's probably easier than pulling in KSL over land and yes it was the only station on the air at night then, I just parked myself on 1160 at about 1 am and waited, it finally started fading up and became audible for a few minutes, long enough for an ID then faded back down to nothing.
From Seattle in the 80's my furthest Eastern catches were WBZ, WNBC, and WHAM. To the West it was KGU and KAIM from Honolulu.
From San Diego in the past decade my furthest Eastern catch is WWL.
From San Diego in the past decade my furthest Eastern catch is WWL.
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sdradiohead said:
All impressive catches. Especially WBZ, who choose to run directional along the Atlantic at night!
I suppose the MT on 1180 was no match for WHAM.
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cd637299 said:
The WBZ pattern is "aimed" at 270° with nearly equal field strength over the 230° to 210° range, so any place in the western US will be in the full power lobe, which is considerably greater than that of a non-directional station of the same power.
WBZ actually has a null towards the east (on 90°), towards the Atlantic.
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DavidEduardo said:
OK my bad....I thought that NRC Log showed a somewhat N/S. Other 1030's are on now, and our DX board was discussing one in MO.
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Word! said:
At night on AM, mountains aren't an issue. The signal shoots into the ionosphere and bounces back.
FM can do this as well, but that is called sporadic-E which is more common in late spring/early summer.
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Word! said:
Back in the 1960s when the clear channels were really clear it was fairly common to get many of the east coast 50KWs in the Pacific northwest.
On several trips to the west coast I often heard WCBS, WNBC, WCAU, WHAM, & WBZ among a few others. The only time I was ever in Seattle which was in 1963, all those stations plus the Chicago clears were easily heard.
My point being it was not the mountains, but the fact that so many of those frequencies were clear. Today it is a tremendous challenge to hear anything that far east on the west coast.
Word! said:
Okay....here's your assignment....
Hang out on 1070 right before sunrise. It may take some time and patience but eventually KNX should pop. What you should do is listen to them online and wait for the sounder that they use going into traffic (and weather). Familiarize yourself with what it sounds like. The sounder is good at making it through the noise on the channel when nothing else is identifiable.
You might also try your luck on 640 for KFI or 680 for KNBR. They're usually a little tougher than KNX, but certainly are capable of making the hop....and used to relatively common in the Midwest and East before the channels got more crowded.
Also, other things can happen....either the ionosphere "opens up" or stations operate on daytime power or pattern at night. Something happened a few weeks ago that resulted in CKWX (1130 Vancouver) being rather widely heard in theCentral and Eastern U.S. several weeks ago.
Good luck!
You beat me to it, cyberdad.
I was going to say that if you can listen long enough on 1070 or 640, you should hear Los Angeles eventually and yeah, KNX is the best bet.
Even though there may be a little more advantage in being able to hear those stations from my location in Tampa, they both seemed impossible until I eventually got them both but it took A LOT of listening time which seemed like a waste of time until I heard them.
I was going to say that if you can listen long enough on 1070 or 640, you should hear Los Angeles eventually and yeah, KNX is the best bet.
Even though there may be a little more advantage in being able to hear those stations from my location in Tampa, they both seemed impossible until I eventually got them both but it took A LOT of listening time which seemed like a waste of time until I heard them.
If you're talking about the 48 Contiguous US states and Canada, here's my take. From a location in Wareham, MA, back in '99, I have received 610/WIOD Miami and was able to get it until pattern change (local Miami sunset). This was using a regular car radio.
Back in '78 just before sunrise (in Great Barrington, MA) , I was able to get 640/KFI Los Angeles. I was using a Realistic DX-160 with a long wire antenna. I still have the DX-160 some 33 years later!
Nothing earth shaking, admittedly, but (for me) it was one of many DX achievements I've received over the years.
One favorite catch was in the middle of winter of 1979 where I heard the following ID........
"You're in Q-Country! 1570 CKLQ" (Brandon, Manitoba). Only 10,000 watts watts but it came in like a local for a few minutes in Westfield, MA. Got a nice QSL letter from it too!
73 de K1XRB
Back in '78 just before sunrise (in Great Barrington, MA) , I was able to get 640/KFI Los Angeles. I was using a Realistic DX-160 with a long wire antenna. I still have the DX-160 some 33 years later!
Nothing earth shaking, admittedly, but (for me) it was one of many DX achievements I've received over the years.
One favorite catch was in the middle of winter of 1979 where I heard the following ID........
"You're in Q-Country! 1570 CKLQ" (Brandon, Manitoba). Only 10,000 watts watts but it came in like a local for a few minutes in Westfield, MA. Got a nice QSL letter from it too!
73 de K1XRB
For those of you in the Realms of the East who are searching for the West...
Here's a recording of KNX 1070 Los Angeles, CA, including the traffic sounder.
This was recorded this past summer (July 20, 2010) shortly after 4pm in my back yard, using the Tecsun PL-380 and Select-A-Tenna. I'm about 111 miles from their 50kW transmitter at a heading of about 315°.
A few minutes before I recorded that clip, I recorded a minute or so around TOH, including ID, in the house with the Tecsun PL-380 using only its built-in ferrite antenna.
Also, IIRC, their music bed they use at BOH should stand out, as well. I'll try to record that in a few minutes (if I remember) and post it.
Good luck. Bonus points for digging it out with the quality of signal that I can hear it in the daytime.
BTW in some places like the eastern USA, is that the typical quality of reception of a 50kW at about 110 miles above 1000 kHz (for example, WBZ near the MA/NY border, WBAL in Richmond, VA, or WINS in Albany, NY)? Or do you have stronger signals (or weaker) at that distance there?
I maybe should mention that there is some saltwater in the path between me and KNX. I've also noticed that KFI is slightly weaker, in spite of being on 640 and 12 miles closer. Could it be the lack of saltwater between me and KFI? They're a bit more inland than KNX is.
Here's a recording of KNX 1070 Los Angeles, CA, including the traffic sounder.
This was recorded this past summer (July 20, 2010) shortly after 4pm in my back yard, using the Tecsun PL-380 and Select-A-Tenna. I'm about 111 miles from their 50kW transmitter at a heading of about 315°.
A few minutes before I recorded that clip, I recorded a minute or so around TOH, including ID, in the house with the Tecsun PL-380 using only its built-in ferrite antenna.
Also, IIRC, their music bed they use at BOH should stand out, as well. I'll try to record that in a few minutes (if I remember
) and post it.Good luck.
Bonus points for digging it out with the quality of signal that I can hear it in the daytime. BTW in some places like the eastern USA, is that the typical quality of reception of a 50kW at about 110 miles above 1000 kHz (for example, WBZ near the MA/NY border, WBAL in Richmond, VA, or WINS in Albany, NY)? Or do you have stronger signals (or weaker) at that distance there?
I maybe should mention that there is some saltwater in the path between me and KNX. I've also noticed that KFI is slightly weaker, in spite of being on 640 and 12 miles closer. Could it be the lack of saltwater between me and KFI? They're a bit more inland than KNX is.
tfcwings said:For those of you in the Realms of the East who are searching for the West...
Here's a recording of KNX 1070 Los Angeles, CA, including the traffic sounder.
This was recorded this past summer (July 20, 2010) shortly after 4pm in my back yard, using the Tecsun PL-380 and Select-A-Tenna. I'm about 111 miles from their 50kW transmitter at a heading of about 315°.
A few minutes before I recorded that clip, I recorded a minute or so around TOH, including ID, in the house with the Tecsun PL-380 using only its built-in ferrite antenna.
Also, IIRC, their music bed they use at BOH should stand out, as well. I'll try to record that in a few minutes (if I remember
Good luck.
BTW in some places like the eastern USA, is that the typical quality of reception of a 50kW at about 110 miles above 1000 kHz (for example, WBZ near the MA/NY border, WBAL in Richmond, VA, or WINS in Albany, NY)? Or do you have stronger signals (or weaker) at that distance there?
I maybe should mention that there is some saltwater in the path between me and KNX. I've also noticed that KFI is slightly weaker, in spite of being on 640 and 12 miles closer. Could it be the lack of saltwater between me and KFI? They're a bit more inland than KNX is.
I can't comment on the east coast, but here in the midwest the 50KW ND Chicago stations get out that well on groundwave.
tfcwings said:Also, IIRC, their music bed they use at BOH should stand out, as well. I'll try to record that in a few minutes (if I remember
Apparently they seem to have changed their BOH music to something different from what I remember. (I recorded it, but bumped the tuning knob on the radio during the recording so will have to try again in about a half hour.) Also, they've modified their traffic music, as can be heard in this clip recorded at 2:35 this afternoon. It still has that sound, but also has something else with it too. In my opinion, I'd prefer they just left the music alone and kept what they've used over the past decades. Otherwise, I'm wondering if they'd be better off changing their callsign to something like XEKK (or the American equivalent of what that callsign sounds like when pronounced in Spanish - btw could that be why I can't find any Mexican radio stations with consecutive K's in the callsign?
) and flipping to Spanish-language news? - Status