HD IN THE LATEST CRUTCHFIELD: UNINTENTIONALLY FUNNY - OR MAYBE NOT!

[KB1OKL]

Inspector, I invite to my apartment any night to listen to the .33 mv noise of WOR which completely covers up WLW and WGN, although thanks to Karma and the Gods of skywave WOR has been covered up by both of them at various times. What is WINS's or WFAN's strength here? How about WCBS's, yes all these and Cincinnati and Chicago all whoosh right on down here, not all in the same night all the time, but those NY stations are in like clockwork almost every night ruining any kind of reception to their adjacents. Some of whom like I'm sure WSM would like to be heard nationwide like they are capable of and that's a great sounding station when it's not whooshed over. Maybe WSYL's owner would like his station to be heard within it's own contours except for of course WBZ's jarring hash maker which kills it. IBOC audio is lucky to be received at a 30 mile distance but boy can those whooshy sidebands travel!

As is usually the case, you've missed the point entirely. And the point is... Why are you griping about lack of service from Cincinntti and Chicago?



Clouseau

I'm griping about my inability to get ANYTHING clearly most nights on 700 and 720 because of illegal noise coming from WOR.

 

[clouseau]

As is usually the case, you've missed the point entirely. And the point is... Why are you griping about lack of service from Cincinntti and Chicago?

Clouseau

I'm griping about my inability to get ANYTHING clearly most nights on 700 and 720 because of illegal noise coming from WOR.

It's not surprising. There's no station that provides service on any of those three channels you mentioned in your area. That, I believe, is the missed point here. BTW, I suspect there is not any "Illegal" noise from WOR.

Clouseau

 

[KB1OKL]

WGN and WLW came in fine here many nights until the advent of the Big Noise, some nights WLW's IBOC covers up WOR even WGN's has covered up WOR on a few nights, divine retribution is what that's called I believe. ;D. WFAN also covers up WSM which is a national tragedy.

 

[Savage]

Quoth Clouseau: "BTW, I suspect there is not any 'illegal' noise coming from WOR."

Of course there isn't. Because iBiquity and the Alliance connived with the FCC to inappropriately and inadvisedly apply decades-old skywave analog protection rules to digital. And with the NRSC to contrive a "spectral mask" which essentially gives AM stations operating with HD a "license to interfere" and deliberately deprives stations being interfered with, from having any recourse.

In effect, IBOC stations have been given a green light to occupy as much real-world spectrum as they want. If they interfere - with themselves or others - well....screw it. "They'll get used to it."

The priorities are not protection of other broadcasters, or serving the interests of the public. It's all about stacking the deck in favor of the Alliance. And making sure the corporate elites that pay David Rehr's salary don't get too much uncomfortable scrutiny from the Board of Directors.

All of which makes the schadenfreude about IBOC all the more enjoyable. It's all such a flop. And it so deserves to be.

 

[clouseau]

WGN and WLW came in fine here many nights...

You are correct to use the past tense. Here, at my house, for most of the 80's and 90's KZEP 104.5 was receivable from San Antonio. It was all the classic rock you got here. The 80-90 Upgraded 104.5 from "Not so scenic" Gregory, Texas was built and that was the end of KZEP. There's no recourse. We're better served by a local station. (Alhough thier jocks suck) Life goes on. Times are changing. IMHO, your arguement actually provides cover for any legitimate problems the system may cause.
As the FCC sees it, "I like the caboose" isn't really a very good protest.

Clouseau

 

[KB1OKL]

WGN and WLW came in fine here many nights...

You are correct to use the past tense. Here, at my house, for most of the 80's and 90's KZEP 104.5 was receivable from San Antonio. It was all the classic rock you got here. The 80-90 Upgraded 104.5 from "Not so scenic" Gregory, Texas was built and that was the end of KZEP. There's no recourse. We're better served by a local station. (Alhough thier jocks suck) Life goes on. Times are changing. IMHO, your arguement actually provides cover for any legitimate problems the system may cause.
As the FCC sees it, "I like the caboose" isn't really a very good protest.

Clouseau

The point is as I'm sure you realize Inpector is that WGN and WLW still come in good here except that that they are blocked by iBlock from WOR. WSM also comes in good here except that it is blocked by WFAN's IBUZ, which is a sports talk station for cripe sake. That's the heartbreak of IBOC, these stations are all still here just that they are blocked by illegal harmful interference which the idiots at the FCC have allowed. They will be back again. I predict savage's station will again be heard IBUZ free within his own contours. I predict WSM will again be heard in 38 states in it's full glory and it is a national treasure, they're aren't many left like that station anymore.

 

[clouseau]

The point is as I'm sure you realize Inpector is that WGN and WLW still come in good here except that that they are blocked by iBlock from WOR. WSM also comes in good here except that it is blocked by WFAN's IBUZ, which is a sports talk station for cripe sake. That's the heartbreak of IBOC, these stations are all still here just that they are blocked by illegal harmful interference which the idiots at the FCC have allowed. They will be back again. I predict savage's station will again be heard IBUZ free within his own contours. I predict WSM will again be heard in 38 states in it's full glory and it is a national treasure, they're aren't many left like that station anymore.

You are correct. I see your point. However, unlike you, I accept that your point apparently is irrellevant to todays broadcast regulatory environment. THAT uis what I don't understand about this discussion, Bob. Seriously, no hostility intended. Do you think you are raising a new issue? Do you think your issue has not been heard? Does it strike you that The FCC cares about DX operation?

To me, this is what Scott Fybush was talking about in his 2009 post. I seems to me that "Loss of Nashville service in Massechusettes" is an issue for the DX board.
http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/board,301.0.html

The way radio is regulated has changed. And maybe not for the better. But honestly, over the last 50 years, the radio listener has changed, too.

Just food for thought.

Clouseau

BTW that DX board is actually busy. I'll have to stop by.