HD Radio: too little, too late-Don't be fooled by HD Radio Hype.

[SUPERCASTER]

"HD reminds me of DCC (Digital Compact Cassette)," notes Hill, "another attempt by a mature industry to administer life support to a sunset format. That didn't work either, and today almost no one even remembers it."
http://www.synthtopia.com/news/06_08/Stephen_Hill_Digital_Radi.html

Face it, folks...when you add it up, HD Radio as a platform will never be competitive with satellite or Internet radio on a value for value basis for the end user.

What about online radio? Now you have tens of thousands of channels: a mind-boggling array of niche and specialty content in addition to deep choice of mainstream formats. In many cases, you have fewer or zero commercials. You have on-demand access and deep archives. You have asynchronous subscription delivery, aka podcasting. And you have ubiquitous wired access, with wide-area wireless Internet rolling out starting last year on the 3G cellular nets. And now the hardware cost is rolled into your smart cell phone, which is being upgraded every 2-3 years on average anyway.

http://heartsofspace.typepad.com/spatialrelations/

At his blog, Hill makes a persuasive case for the advantages of podcasting and on-demand Internet audio over digital radio. He notes that typical Internet audio is already higher quality than HD, there are more options on the Internet and people don't need to purchase a special $500 HD radio.

http://www.synthtopia.com/news/06_08/Stephen_Hill_Digital_Radi.html
http://www.podcastingnews.com/archives/2006/07/public_radio_gu_1.html

Since FMeXtra www,dreinc.com, AOL/Winamp/streamcast all use the same AAC Plus codec from Coding Technologies that HD Radio uses, they all have the same quality at the same bitrate! Some streaming stations use a much higher AAC Plus bitrate then HD Radio, and therefore have much higher quality then HD Radio.
Check out the list of AAC plus licensees:
http://www.codingtechnologies.com/partners/index.htm

You can listen to these better then HD quality streaming stations by using the latest version of the free Winamp player http://www.winamp.com/, or by the new Windows Media plug in (scroll down for AAC Plus stations links) http://www.tuner2.com/

iPods and many other similar players also use AAC encoding.

HD Radio is a system that is expensive, defective and already obsolete.

 

[SUPERCASTER]

HD streams explode the myth that HD Radio has better quality then webstreams! Same codec as used by HD Radio, but often at higher bitrates and offers 5.1 surround sound!
Hundreds of new HD stations you can actually hear from your location.
http://www.tuner2.com/

 

[IBOCRocks]

HD streams explode the myth that HD Radio has better quality then webstreams! Same codec as used by HD Radio, but often at higher bitrates and offers 5.1 surround sound!
Hundreds of new HD stations you can actually hear from your location.
http://www.tuner2.com/

I sure can't top any of the nonsense above! Notice how he doesn't say "Try HD Radio for yourself!"

It's because he knows that what he presents as "alternatives" really aren't.

This guy is the Granddaddy of misinformation. Like that this board was taken over by pro-IBOC "factions" and that a court order was needed to remove them.

Comical.

 

[DanCon]

These guys really exemplify how not to promote your own business. Sign up to the forum with a few of your buddies, repeatedly post insults about how bad the product is and then link to your own sites. Yeah, great viral marketing campaign. [EDIT]


[EDIT=name calling]

 

[IBOCRocks]

These guys really exemplify how not to promote your own business. Sign up to the forum with a few of your buddies, repeatedly post insults about how bad the product is and then link to your own sites. Yeah, great viral marketing campaign. A-holes.

That's what I've been saying all along. This is a discussion board, yet they have no intention of discussing anything. They'll just argue and post links, and either ignore the other side or call them "shills".

There are a couple of posters who have problems with HD that I really respect. I may not agree with them, but I've never heard them make false accusations or argue. They're willing to discuss, calmly, the issues. Those people do more for the "anti-IBOC" side in one post than these other guys have done in their entire time here.

 

[SayNoToIBOC]

IBOCRocks wrote: "That's what I've been saying all along. This is a discussion board, yet they have no intention of discussing anything. They'll just argue and post links, and either ignore the other side or call them "shills". There are a couple of posters who have problems with HD that I really respect. I may not agree with them, but I've never heard them make false accusations or argue. They're willing to discuss, calmly, the issues. Those people do more for the "anti-IBOC" side in one post than these other guys have done in their entire time here."

"HD Radio: too little, too late-Don't be fooled by HD Radio Hype." - just this title will get their juices flowing !

Jesus, angry again !!! Just because we are anti-IBOC, doesn't mean we aren't discussing HD Radio, or that our links are just to be discounted as untrue. Jesus, I am angry ! IBOCRocks, remember you said that you are hiding your 7-foot Receptor HD radio dipole antenna - yea, let's just pretend we don't need one !

 

[IBOCRocks]

IBOCRocks wrote: "That's what I've been saying all along. This is a discussion board, yet they have no intention of discussing anything. They'll just argue and post links, and either ignore the other side or call them "shills". There are a couple of posters who have problems with HD that I really respect. I may not agree with them, but I've never heard them make false accusations or argue. They're willing to discuss, calmly, the issues. Those people do more for the "anti-IBOC" side in one post than these other guys have done in their entire time here."

"HD Radio: too little, too late-Don't be fooled by HD Radio Hype." - just this title will get their juices flowing !

Jesus, angry again !!! Just because we are anti-IBOC, doesn't mean we aren't discussing HD Radio, or that our links are just to be discounted as untrue. Jesus, I am angry ! IBOCRocks, remember you said that you are hiding your 7-foot Receptor HD radio dipole antenna - yea, let's just pretend we don't need one !

Who's angry? You certainly are not interested in discussing anything, unless you agree with it. Otherwise you just yell, scream, and swear.

Aren't we competitive? "Getting their juices flowing" - that's comedy gold. You guys are our little punchline. I can't be angy at you if I tried...you are no longer anything but a joke to me.

So again, think what you want about the dipole. I don't care.

I did miss you, though. I need more material to amuse me...SUPERCASTER did an admirable job filling the void however. In fact, I'm thinking about starting a pool - which one of you is going to post the most absurd accusation. Don't let me down!

 

[SayNoToIBOC]

Boy, some things never change ! If this was such wonderful "technology", that wasn't being forced on the "masses", then you wouldn't need to be so defensive ! Why, do you keep logging off and on - afraid you might miss something !

 

[IBOCRocks]

Boy, some things never change ! If this was such wonderful "technology", that wasn't being forced on the "masses", then you wouldn't need to be so defensive !

I'm not the one with 412 posts to my name dedicated to defending the status quo by posting links and "planting a seed of doubt". The facts speak for themselves.

Have a great day! I'm sure you have some anti-IBOC rally to attend to with SUPERCASTER. Meanwhile, I actually have a life, and I'm going to get back to it.

Have fun while I'm gone!

 

[autopaint-1]

OK, put em up. Hands against the wall. Got the cuffs O'Malley? OK, now the other end tie to that post over there. So ya can't move can ya Supercaster. Yer being held against yer will. OK Johnson, turn on the HD radio and this time, it'll be that HD2 Polka stream. Go on listen ya bum ya. Hey Johnson check his pockets for annual payments ya gonna pay fer ya free radio and this time it'll be pure digital.

 

[SayNoToIBOC]

You have 261 - that's not too slim ! At least, I took a real break, for a few days - but, I really missed you guys ! I feel like we are an exclusive, dysfunctional club, or something !

 

[SayNoToIBOC]

Oh boy, HD2 polka stream !

 

[IBOCRocks]

You have 261 - that's not too slim ! At least, I took a real break, for a few days - but, I really missed you guys ! I feel like we are an exclusive, dysfunctional club, or something !

Really, I missed you too! I just kept sending myself profanity-laden tirades filled with hate and lies, and it was just like dealing with you. I felt better then, 'cause I got my laugh.

 

[SayNoToIBOC]

IBOCRockss wrote: "Really, I missed you too! I just kept sending myself profanity-laden tirades filled with hate and lies, and it was just like dealing with you. I felt better then, 'cause I got my laugh."

You see, I knew you thrived on abuse !

 

[SUPERCASTER]

HD streams explode the myth that HD Radio has better quality then webstreams! Same codec as used by HD Radio, but often at higher bitrates and offers 5.1 surround sound!
Hundreds of new HD stations you can actually hear from your location.
http://www.tuner2.com/

I sure can't top any of the nonsense above! Notice how he doesn't say "Try HD Radio for yourself!"

It's because he knows that what he presents as "alternatives" really aren't.

This guy is the Granddaddy of misinformation. Like that this board was taken over by pro-IBOC "factions" and that a court order was needed to remove them.

Comical.

Pure fabrication and your personal fantasies.
Why would anyone without a suspicious ulterior motive (like HD Radio promotion) encourage others to try a defective product that uses deceptive advertising and marketing practices (HD Radio). Of course all Amerians are free to try any legal product, or engage in any legal activity a citizen wishes. EVEN LISTENING TO SECONDARY RADIO COVERAGE AREAS, SKY WAVE, SKIP, AND, YES EVEN THAT MOST REPULSIVE AND DESPICABLE ACTIVITY (FREQUENTLY EQUATED BY IBOCers WITH MURDER), THE MOST VILE AND DREADED (BY IBOCers) DXING!

Here is another of the never ending parade lies told by IBOCers:

"This guy is the Granddaddy of misinformation. Like that this board was taken over by pro-IBOC "factions" and that a court order was needed to remove them."

I have never posted or said any such thing. Pure lies, false accusations and deception just as all your other posts.

The following clearly admits the HD supporters marketing strategy:
"These guys really exemplify how not to promote your own business. Sign up to the forum with a few of your buddies, repeatedly post insults about how bad the product is and then link to your own sites. Yeah, great viral marketing campaign. A-holes."

That's the HD Radio marketing campaign! It's hard to market and advertise a product so defective as HD Radio without all this misdirection and deception. Just like Hitler, blame freedom loving radio listeners, and people who disagree with you, for the defects and failures of your ideas and beliefs.

People opposing HD Radio are selling or promoting nothing. It is HD Radio supporters that are peddling a defective technology and new, expensive radios.
Quotations and links to various statements and articles are facilitated and encouraged on this board, quite unlike other boards where oppinions that are not strictly party line compliant are verboten.

Have a nice day. ;D

 

[IBOCRocks]

HD streams explode the myth that HD Radio has better quality then webstreams! Same codec as used by HD Radio, but often at higher bitrates and offers 5.1 surround sound!
Hundreds of new HD stations you can actually hear from your location.
http://www.tuner2.com/

I sure can't top any of the nonsense above! Notice how he doesn't say "Try HD Radio for yourself!"

It's because he knows that what he presents as "alternatives" really aren't.

This guy is the Granddaddy of misinformation. Like that this board was taken over by pro-IBOC "factions" and that a court order was needed to remove them.

Comical.

Pure fabrication and your personal fantasies.
Why would anyone without a suspicious ulterior motive (like HD Radio promotion) encourage others to try a defective product that uses deceptive advertising and marketing practices (HD Radio). Of course all Amerians are free to try any legal product, or engage in any legal activity a citizen wishes. EVEN LISTENING TO SECONDARY RADIO COVERAGE AREAS, SKY WAVE, SKIP, AND, YES EVEN THAT MOST REPULSIVE AND DESPICABLE ACTIVITY (FREQUENTLY EQUATED BY IBOCers WITH MURDER), THE MOST VILE AND DREADED (BY IBOCers) DXING!

Here is another of the never ending parade lies told by IBOCers:

"This guy is the Granddaddy of misinformation. Like that this board was taken over by pro-IBOC "factions" and that a court order was needed to remove them."

I have never posted or said any such thing. Pure lies, false accusations and deception just as all your other posts.

The following clearly admits the HD supporters marketing strategy:
"These guys really exemplify how not to promote your own business. Sign up to the forum with a few of your buddies, repeatedly post insults about how bad the product is and then link to your own sites. Yeah, great viral marketing campaign. A-holes."

That's the HD Radio marketing campaign! It's hard to market and advertise a product so defective as HD Radio without all this misdirection and deception. Just like Hitler, blame freedom loving radio listeners, and people who disagree with you, for the defects and failures of your ideas and beliefs.

People opposing HD Radio are selling or promoting nothing. It is HD Radio supporters that are peddling a defective technology and new, expensive radios.
Quotations and links to various statements and articles are facilitated and encouraged on this board, quite unlike other boards where oppinions that are not strictly party line compliant are verboten.

Have a nice day. ;D

Wow...way to completely not answer for anything! So this, from your blog, is was not written by you?

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WEBSITE HIJACKED, PSYCHO-TERRORISTS THWARTED
An open website and forum was hijacked by a conspiracy of pro-HD Radio psycho-terrorists, making threats and blocking access to the (formerly) open forum to those who pointed out HD radio's shortcomings and increasing unnecessary interference to analog broadcasting (and others with valid information and opinions). Some of the hijackers are employees of companies that are members or supporters of the HD Radio consortium (cartel) and were preventing the public from getting accurate information about HD Radio's defects, and about the cartel that is creating unnecessary destructive interference to AM and FM broadcast reception on the public's airwaves (and 1 billion radios).
A court order was issued and control of the website to the rightful owners was re-established.
Here is a link to the website that was hijacked:
http://www.radio-info.com/

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Not a lie? That's a whopper!!

Prove that HD Supporters had anything to to with a "Denial of Service" attack, of the need for a court order, please.

Show me any post you've made that says anything close to "just try HD radio and see for yourself".

 

[SayNoToIBOC]

IBOCRocks wrote: "WEBSITE HIJACKED, PSYCHO-TERRORISTS THWARTED
An open website and forum was hijacked by a conspiracy of pro-HD Radio psycho-terrorists, making threats and blocking access to the (formerly) open forum to those who pointed out HD radio's shortcomings and increasing unnecessary interference to analog broadcasting (and others with valid information and opinions). Some of the hijackers are employees of companies that are members or supporters of the HD Radio consortium (cartel) and were preventing the public from getting accurate information about HD Radio's defects, and about the cartel that is creating unnecessary destructive interference to AM and FM broadcast reception on the public's airwaves (and 1 billion radios).
A court order was issued and control of the website to the rightful owners was re-established.
Here is a link to the website that was hijacked:"

Hey, I remember you used this in another thread - I knew you couldn't type that fast ! I bet, you thought I wouldn't remember your previous post !

 

[IBOCRocks]

IBOCRocks wrote: "WEBSITE HIJACKED, PSYCHO-TERRORISTS THWARTED
An open website and forum was hijacked by a conspiracy of pro-HD Radio psycho-terrorists, making threats and blocking access to the (formerly) open forum to those who pointed out HD radio's shortcomings and increasing unnecessary interference to analog broadcasting (and others with valid information and opinions). Some of the hijackers are employees of companies that are members or supporters of the HD Radio consortium (cartel) and were preventing the public from getting accurate information about HD Radio's defects, and about the cartel that is creating unnecessary destructive interference to AM and FM broadcast reception on the public's airwaves (and 1 billion radios).
A court order was issued and control of the website to the rightful owners was re-established.
Here is a link to the website that was hijacked:"

Hey, I remember you used this in another thread - I knew you couldn't type that fast ! I bet, you thought I wouldn't remember your previous post !

Wow - you're smart! Why would I care if you remembered the other post? I used the same wild lie to prove the same point! Kind of like you and 7 foot dipoles...

 

[SayNoToIBOC]

You have your 7-foot dipole antenna hidden - remember ? What, is it hidden in the attic ?

 

[IBOCRocks]

You have your 7-foot dipole antenna hidden - remember ? What, is it hidden in the attic ?

Show us all where I said that.

Oops! Another lie from SayNoToIBOC!

It's like a game: SayNo will write a lie every time he posts. Spot it for fun and laughs!