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Heard another idiotic HD commercial on WZLX yesterday

This one used either Beavis or Butthead as a spokesmen (They must have really sold out, on the show I think they would have said this radio sucks, heh heh hehe and then thrown it onto Mr Anderson's lawn and then run it over with his lawnmower all the while say "Hey, this is cool, heh heh heh").
Anyway this one after a bunch of gibberish said that we all need our 8 oz. of HD every day, who is this garbage aimed at? The last time I knew 8 year olds weren't WZLX's target audience. Anyway as a result of these ads I am now listening to The Pike. All this reminds me of why I renew my Sirius-XM account when it's time.
 
Don Juan said:
KB1OKL said:
All this reminds me of why I renew my Sirius-XM account when it's time.

You'll find that Sirius/XM is not doing so well either. Are they headed for bankruptcy?

Maybe, but I'll enjoy it while I can. Radio's going to end up online anyway in addition to their over the air signals especially once WiFi has some range. I listen to Deep Tracks which reminds me of FM radio during it's heyday in the 70's. I heard the live version of Who do You Love by Quicksilver Messenger Service in it's entirety which if you don't remember is a 30 minute tune.
 
KB1OKL said:
Radio's going to end up online anyway in addition to their over the air signals especially once WiFi has some range.

Possibly, but don't hold your breath. It's a long way before that technology is ready for primetime. It's going to be awhile before we can give people a stable wi-fi signal suitable for reliable radio listening....and the public will never put up with signal dropout/dropoff for internet radio listening in the car.

Will said:
Know what else is idiotic? You starting a second thread about this.

HD-Hating! The topic that will never go away!
 
"The public will never put up with signal dropout/dropoff."

You bet. You've just stated the main reason why HD Radio will fail.
 
Savage said:
"The public will never put up with signal dropout/dropoff."

You bet. You've just stated the main reason why HD Radio will fail.

In that case, satellite isn't off to a great start outside of the car either - my portable XM unit from had dropouts like mad anytime I used it in the house or walking around outside it was always a pain to listen to with the dropouts. Only time indoor reception was ok was when I could pick up the terrestrial repeaters - listening on a bus or train was next to impossible. I canceled my subscription because the content sucks, and podcasts of Loren & Wally, along with my HD Radio, suit me fine without the 14 bucks a month. And at home in front of the computer, I listen to WODS's stream and some other stations.

HD Radio is not a "killer app" unfortunately - I like it, and it wow's my friends when AM HD kicks in, but it is not a cure to what ails radio. Part of that is the stations fault themselves in not doing a great job of educating people about what it is, or making kick ass HD-2 channels and making them multi platform.
 
Savage said:
"The public will never put up with signal dropout/dropoff."

You bet. You've just stated the main reason why HD Radio will fail.

The difference is people are paying for XM/Sirius...and will be for Wi-Fi access as well. They have less patience for something they pay monthly for....than something that is free.

What do you mean HD Dropouts? I hear WBZ comes in great in HD in upstate New York.

HD will get better in time, (especially with power increases) and be improved upon, like all the other technology did.

We are lucky people didn't predict FM a failure when people needed large outdoor antennas to pick it up.

But weren't you on another board complaining about people commenting who have a vested interest in promoting or bashing HD in articles and discussion boards?


bigtom101 said:
In that case, satellite isn't off to a great start outside of the car either - my portable XM unit from had dropouts like mad anytime I used it in the house or walking around outside it was always a pain to listen to with the dropouts. Only time indoor reception was ok was when I could pick up the terrestrial repeaters - listening on a bus or train was next to impossible. I canceled my subscription because the content sucks...

HD Radio is not a "killer app" unfortunately - I like it, and it wow's my friends when AM HD kicks in, but it is not a cure to what ails radio. Part of that is the stations fault themselves in not doing a great job of educating people about what it is, or making kick ass HD-2 channels and making them multi platform.

How dare you post a positive experience with HD radio? ;-) (Just kidding!)

KB10KL posted earlier that dropouts from satellite are never a problem. I have seen research that indicates that this is a bigger problem than anyone wants to admit.

If there is a format that you are in love with on satellite OR HD...you are more likely to put up with some of the issues and drawbacks....just as people are with picking up a terrestrial fringe station that has programming they like

And, as you said, the content of XM/Sirius is less than compelling.
 
bigtom101 said:
Savage said:
"The public will never put up with signal dropout/dropoff."

You bet. You've just stated the main reason why HD Radio will fail.

In that case, satellite isn't off to a great start outside of the car either - my portable XM unit from had dropouts like mad anytime I used it in the house or walking around outside it was always a pain to listen to with the dropouts. Only time indoor reception was ok was when I could pick up the terrestrial repeaters - listening on a bus or train was next to impossible. I canceled my subscription because the content sucks,

I drive all over New England and can count on one hand the number of dropouts I've encountered, In fact the worst for satrad I've encountered are on top of a big hill about 5 minutes from work. I've driven hundreds of miles with no dropouts in one day.
Content sucks?? What do you like, Polka channels or something like hD offers??
 
Don Juan said:
And, as you said, the content of XM/Sirius is less than compelling.

Satellite may have many faults but non-compelling content is not one of them. I can get lost in any of 4 or 5 channels right off the top of my head: Deep Tracks, The Underground Garage, The Jazz channel, the 50's channel. Deep Tracks plus stuff you'll NEVER again here on commercial radio. If you're going to be honest you've at least got to admit that Satrad has the overwhelming edge on content. In fact I listen to CD's in my car for a while, Deep Tracks, and also listened to AM radio for a talk show that I like, HD radio? yawn..... It's useless except as a dream in a few addled radio owners heads.
Incidentally I DID NOT listen to WZLX today and at least part of that reason is those sickening HD commercials which were made by a freelancer from MTV.
 
HD supporters are harcore radio-heads. Nobody else, regardless of how many HD spots are aired, is ever gonna give a @#%&.

I've worked in the biz for about 25 years and haven't any interest in HD. None. Nothing appealing about it at all to me, as a listener. After this massive ad campaign, NOBODY I know outside the biz even knows about it, no less wants a receiver or is destined to search out any HD stations. There is NOTHING to compel anyone outside of the radioheads and audiophiles to bother with HD. Some people, especially those corporate heads, cannot get this through their collective heads.

At a time when the established BRAND NAME stations are gutting their programming and damaging long-term audience prospects to save money, it's a crime that operators are wasting even a dime on this HD nonsense, IBOC, whatever.
 
CM I see some of your points and I don't agree with all the actions of the alliance but overall I think HD2 and 3 is a good idea. I'm not so sure about HD1. You also have to remember that it wasn't that long ago that these same accusations were being made about FM radio when AM was the only money maker for the corporations.
I think there are some excellent new formats on HD2 in Boston and I would hope these will push some of the other companies to try some new ideas with theirs. It really could be an avenue for local radio to offer something that satellite radio can't afford to. I also think the majors ought to think about bringing in some local folks to program their HD2's and 3's if they have good ideas. If these signals can start to make some revenue the whole picture changes. If the programing is unique the word will get out and radios will be bought. I agree with you that the loss of multi-path alone is not enough of a killer app to sell HD1 and never will be. But if the additional formats could help radio bring back or introduce new programming that none of the majors could risk on their main signals everyone wins. CBS and Greater Media are now PPM'ng their HD2's. It will be interesting to see if they start showing up in the ratings. I now know of three friends outside of the radio business that have HD radios. I will admit two were Christmas gifts and the other would be considered a gadget head but all three are now big fans of HD2. HD 2 and 3 could become a great way to reach folks sick of mainstream radio who would normally be lost to satellite or Ipods. I myself know I would listen to HD2 a lot if my car radio had it. Hopefully my next one will come with one.

cm454 said:
HD supporters are harcore radio-heads. Nobody else, regardless of how many HD spots are aired, is ever gonna give a @#%&.

I've worked in the biz for about 25 years and haven't any interest in HD. None. Nothing appealing about it at all to me, as a listener. After this massive ad campaign, NOBODY I know outside the biz even knows about it, no less wants a receiver or is destined to search out any HD stations. There is NOTHING to compel anyone outside of the radioheads and audiophiles to bother with HD. Some people, especially those corporate heads, cannot get this through their collective heads.

At a time when the established BRAND NAME stations are gutting their programming and damaging long-term audience prospects to save money, it's a crime that operators are wasting even a dime on this HD nonsense, IBOC, whatever.
 
KB1OKL said:
bigtom101 said:
Savage said:
"The public will never put up with signal dropout/dropoff."

You bet. You've just stated the main reason why HD Radio will fail.

In that case, satellite isn't off to a great start outside of the car either - my portable XM unit from had dropouts like mad anytime I used it in the house or walking around outside it was always a pain to listen to with the dropouts. Only time indoor reception was ok was when I could pick up the terrestrial repeaters - listening on a bus or train was next to impossible. I canceled my subscription because the content sucks,

I drive all over New England and can count on one hand the number of dropouts I've encountered, In fact the worst for satrad I've encountered are on top of a big hill about 5 minutes from work. I've driven hundreds of miles with no dropouts in one day.
Content sucks?? What do you like, Polka channels or something like hD offers??

I like WDAS-FM's "Quiet Storm" HD2, WDRC's "Big D" all oldies HD-2, WLTW's "Classic Lite", and WROR's all 70's HD2. Especially WDRC's HD-2, that was the best thing about being in CT.

At any rate, I used to LOVE on XM 50's on 5, 60's on 6, and Soul Street. But with the merger they fired everyone who made those channels great, and really gutted Soul Street and the 50's channel (Matt the Cat was really great). And on Sirius, they fired TJ Lubinsky from Sirius Gold and replaced him with Bobby B's "Doo Wop Stop." Aside from the fact that TJ is a great personality, he has an incredible library and his interviews with the artists made the show great.

The car wasnt a big problem - using it outside of the car was when it got tricky.
 
bigtom101 said:
KB1OKL said:
bigtom101 said:
Savage said:
"The public will never put up with signal dropout/dropoff."

You bet. You've just stated the main reason why HD Radio will fail.

In that case, satellite isn't off to a great start outside of the car either - my portable XM unit from had dropouts like mad anytime I used it in the house or walking around outside it was always a pain to listen to with the dropouts. Only time indoor reception was ok was when I could pick up the terrestrial repeaters - listening on a bus or train was next to impossible. I canceled my subscription because the content sucks,

I drive all over New England and can count on one hand the number of dropouts I've encountered, In fact the worst for satrad I've encountered are on top of a big hill about 5 minutes from work. I've driven hundreds of miles with no dropouts in one day.
Content sucks?? What do you like, Polka channels or something like hD offers??

I like WDAS-FM's "Quiet Storm" HD2, WDRC's "Big D" all oldies HD-2, WLTW's "Classic Lite", and WROR's all 70's HD2. Especially WDRC's HD-2, that was the best thing about being in CT.

At any rate, I used to LOVE on XM 50's on 5, 60's on 6, and Soul Street. But with the merger they fired everyone who made those channels great, and really gutted Soul Street and the 50's channel (Matt the Cat was really great). And on Sirius, they fired TJ Lubinsky from Sirius Gold and replaced him with Bobby B's "Doo Wop Stop." Aside from the fact that TJ is a great personality, he has an incredible library and his interviews with the artists made the show great.

The car wasnt a big problem - using it outside of the car was when it got tricky.

Yeah I agree with you about 50's on 5 and 60's on 6, it has changed and not for the better. I like Deep Tracks enough to keep it just for that one channel. They've actually got commercials on a few political shows now, I complained about that but still listen. I don't have a portable Satrad receiver and probably wouldn't buy one, but do have it online at home.

All in all though I get stations on my Satrad receiver, my Sony right now is going from one end of the band to the other on both FM and AM with stock antennas set up properly. I'm one town East of Worcester, MA and NOT ONE SINGLE FM HD WILL LOCK IN except for WKLB HD-1 and HD-2 and WAAF HD-1 right now, I've gotten as many as 3 or 4 when conditions are perfect: no leaves, haha! (with drop outs). The ONLY station I ever got on AM was one: WBZ using a Twin Coil ferrite antenna (yes, yes, a DX antenna which cost more than the vaunted Sony which many broadcasters use to monitor their HD stations which is directional and needs to be tuned, it's like having an extra RF stage for your radio) It came in like krap and sounded even worse with it's saccharine artificial highs and dropped out continually, this was during late afternoon when AM propagation is picking up but before evening skywave completely kills HD reception even though iBlock sidebands go for at least one thousand mile leaving the carrier WAY behind. With the stock AM loop, I get nada, nada and nada. I live within 10 miles of both AM and FM HD transmitters, but weather and believe it or not the leaves on my trees interfere with HD reception, I can receive more HD when the leaves fall off the trees, very robust system that HD.


You know the funny thing is that I get all those FM station that broadcast HD very reliably on my Marantz 2385 receiver with the same antenna in analog. The Sony is also plugged into the Marantz and I don't hear a huge difference between the two the rare times I am able to receive HD broadcasts. Jeez wonder if this could be just one of the reasons HD was DOA?
Getting back to the point of my original post I haven't heard any more HD commercials, why? because i haven't listened to WZLX since that day.
 
KB1OKL said:
Satellite may have many faults but non-compelling content is not one of them.

Then how do you account for the high churn factor?

Apparently it's not compelling enough.

cm454 said:
Nothing appealing about it at all to me, as a listener. After this massive ad campaign, NOBODY I know outside the biz even knows about it, no less wants a receiver or is destined to search out any HD stations.

Wrong. Research has show people know about it...they just don't know the benefits. While they've heard about it, they don't know about any of the programming on it. The industry has not done a great job of selling this aspect.

cm454 said:
it's a crime that operators are wasting even a dime on this HD nonsense, IBOC, whatever.

I recall owners/operators saying the same thing about FM. "Why would I want to own an FM when I have a perfectly good AM daytimer?" Heck, I remember Westinghouse selling all their FM's....I think the quote was "We're an AM company and want to focus on our AM efforts". I remember air talent saying they would "never work on FM obscurity". Sponsors who didn't want to be on FM. "Why bother"?

cm454 said:
HD supporters are harcore radio-heads.

No, and we're not "supporters" just wise enough to understand that time, and listeners will decide what technology is accepted....not DX-ers & hobbyist.

We're willing to let this play out...and there is no finish line.

cm454 said:
Getting back to the point of my original post I haven't heard any more HD commercials, why? because i haven't listened to WZLX since that day. could be just one of the reasons HD was DOA?

I'm not sure that Millbury is even in the metro...so I dont think they care. ;-) However, this has alway been the balance....people who will put up with some commercials to get radio for free...and people who are willing to pay for their content.

Judging by the state of XM/Sirius (have they declared bankruptcy yet?) People don't care enough about radio to pay for it.

HD is far from DOA. Like I said earlier, I have not sat in one meeting where people have talked about "turning it off". It's gonna be here for awhile.
 
Don Juan said:
I recall owners/operators saying the same thing about FM. "Why would I want to own an FM when I have a perfectly good AM daytimer?" Heck, I remember Westinghouse selling all their FM's....I think the quote was "We're an AM company and want to focus on our AM efforts". I remember air talent saying they would "never work on FM obscurity". Sponsors who didn't want to be on FM. "Why bother"?

OK Don Juan, this seems to be the default argument for the HD boosters: analogizing HD radio to FM in its early days. Only the analogy falls flat with a thud because the circumstances and details are completely different. For one thing, FM offered (and offers) huge and obvious technical and reception advantages over AM (under most circumstances). The concept of "static-less" radio and stereo were real mind-blowers back then. And yes, I remember it being sold as that. If anything, it was the broadcaster who dragged their feet on FM. For years, FM was the location of classical music and forgotten simulcasts of AM signals. However, once it caught on with the younger generation thanks to AOR formats, the sky was the limit. That's when the owners went in with both feet.

Now, you can try to draw parallels with today's HD - but they don't work. For one thing, choices were very limited back when FM was in its infancy. In the early days, the cost of a receiver was the main issue. They were very, very expensive (not really the issue with HD). And once people could finally afford to buy FM tuners, they sold themselves with fantastically clear reception and stereo hi fi's. It was mindblowing stuff back then and there was no equivalent, aside from buying vinyl. By the late 1960s, you could buy AM/FM radios that were just as compact, attractive and useful as your former AM transistor model, The added cost was commensurate with the added value that FM brought to the table. That's why they sold so well.

Today is different. Totally different. For one thing, HD isn't all that revolutionary. To most people, it just seems like a rehash of the satellite radio concept - only with a lot fewer choices. The audio improvement on HD-1 is there, but 1000 times less obvious than FM was to AM. It's basically inaudible in most cheaper units. And, the audio on HD-2 and (especially) HD-3 signals is usually little better than a low bitrate webstream. If anything, they sound worse than most people are used to with their FM radios.

Also, you'd turn on an FM radio in 1969 and it would work without having to have a degree in electrical engineering. HD radios are frustrating devices. The digital lock requires a perfect signal or it doesn't deliver anything. You show me a person who's delighted with all of his HD choices and I'll show you a geek who spent all day designing a great antenna setup with which to receive them all. Including some sort of an AM wire or loop antenna to get HD lock on a station that spews hash over its neighbors for hundreds of miles. Then I'll show you 99 other people who are disgruntled with their new HD radios because they don't work as advertised.

I've said it before and it bears repeating. Today's crop of HD radios are big, ugly, power sucking cubes that don't fit well into anyone's lifestyles. An FM radio in the late 1960s was like an AM radio, only nicer. Not true of most HD radios in the marketplace. People love their personal listening devices. They love them to be small, sleek and to work well without having to think much about them. Not ONE HD radio offers this as yet. Even the new models are big, UGLY, cube-shaped devices. Not compelling and not worth the $100 to $150 price tag that they generally come with. Retailers know this, which is why you have to work so hard to even find one. It's hardly an impulse buy.

Lastly, HD radio has tons of competition. Standard radio is one form of it (as in what we have now is fine), then there's satellite radio and, finally - the HD killer - internet radio. If you need to have a great selection, then nothing will beat internet radio. THAT is the technology of the future. And it's already generating more buzz with no advertising than HD is with thousands of hours of it. Screwing up our present radio stations with digital sidebands is generating buzz, but the kind that interferes with other broadcasters.

Honestly DJ, there's NO excitement out there among the public about HD radio. None. None at all. I'll repeat this once more so you get it: NO EXCITEMENT AT ALL. THEY DON'T CARE.

What broadcasters are doing by polluting the airwaves with crap digital sidebands is the electronic equivalent of peeing in their own swimming pool. It's not forward thinking, it's just foolish. You want digital radio? Then go with a different piece of spectrum as they did in the UK. Or just forget it.
 
Well again could the HD signals be stronger yes! And they are working on that. But I live inside 128 and with my home stereo tuner have no problem picking up all the major Boston HD signals. I agree with you that HD radio is not a killer AP as FM stereo was. But the loss of multipath is pretty cool for us city/metro dwellers. I do like some of the HD2 offerings quite a bit. I find myself jumping between WBCNHD2, WRORHD2, WZLXHD2 and MikeFMHD2. I think you'll find BCN's FreeForm HD2 a lot deeper than your deeper cuts.
With the coming power increases I think HD2,3 will eventually take off. But I agree it will be a very slow climb unless some more folks start taking some unique niche programming moves. That is the beauty of it cause the stations can afford be creative with it in ways they would never risk on their main programming that needs mass appeal to be profitable. HD2 doesn't.
 
"Give the kewpie doll in this thread to......BRNout."

He's just posted one of the best-written, most logical and complete summations of the HD Radio situation I've read. In particular the parallel tiresomely drawn between HD and FM's rollout is deconstructed perfectly.

I said it in RWEE: if HD Radio was even a vague approximation of the claims its few fans make for it, the controversy wouldn't exist. HD doesn't cut it and the interference represents two steps backwards for audio quality, at a time when radio desperately needs to press its advantages.

All the sophistry and wishful thinking in the world don't overcome engineering problems and an inadequately-assessed marketplace which is pushing past HD Radio. HD is an idea whose time has never come - and never will.
 
OK Don Juan, this seems to be the default argument for the HD boosters: analogizing HD radio to FM in its early days. Only the analogy falls flat with a thud because the circumstances and details are completely different. For one thing, FM offered (and offers) huge and obvious technical and reception advantages over AM (under most circumstances).

True....the biggest similarity is that is gives the public choices. (for free) That was what FM offered mostly.

The concept of "static-less" radio and stereo were real mind-blowers back then.


Yes, but it was also criticized as expensive, needing large outdoor antennas...etc. etc. And it was criticized as not.

In spite of the advantages, it took a long time for people to accept and embrace didn't it? The main similarity with FM is that it extends listeners choices.

If anything, it was the broadcaster who dragged their feet on FM.

It was a classic pushme pullyou. Broadcasters were slow to put on expensive programming (sound familiar?) Listeners were slow to listen because they needed new equipment (sound familiar?) Sponsors were slow to put money into it because there were no listeners. (Sound familiar).

Time...a new generation....and Detroit starting to put FM in cars as stock items all helped.


Now, you can try to draw parallels with today's HD - but they don't work.


See above

For one thing, choices were very limited back when FM was in its infancy.

Sounds like HD!

In the early days, the cost of a receiver was the main issue.

$200 is still an obstacle to many.

fantastically clear reception and stereo hi fi's. It was mindblowing stuff back then

I recall the days when FM was far from "fantastically clear reception" and when a majority of the FM's were mono. When exposed to HD radio....people react pretty positively (I wouldn't use "mind blowing"....people aren't too fascinated by anything to do with radio anymore.)

The added cost was commensurate with the added value that FM brought to the table.


The $200 for an HD radio brings added value as well....a number of new specialty formats, etc. The public just doesn't know enough about these benefits yet.

Today is different. Totally different.

Not really...

For one thing, HD isn't all that revolutionary. The audio improvement on HD-1 is there, but 1000 times less obvious than FM was to AM.

Not it is not revolutionary...but as I stated earlier...nothing in radio is revolutionary to the public anymore.

The "quality" issue is not one of HD's great selling points. Although people listeneing to AM HD are typically "blown away" by the difference in quality.

Also, you'd turn on an FM radio in 1969 and it would work without having to have a degree in electrical engineering. HD radios are frustrating devices.

Really? Are you having trouble figuring out how to work your radio? I have not seen any information indicating that people are "frustrated" trying to get their HD unit working. I think this is false.

The digital lock requires a perfect signal or it doesn't deliver anything.

No, if there is no digital lock, it reverts back to analog. But this is the same issue we are having with HD TV...and most things digital. (I recall the first digital cell phones had this issue.) What happenned? The technology got better, people got used it it, etc. I don't hear any complaints about digital cell phone that I used to....and the switchover to HD TV went pretty smooth.

get HD lock on a station that spews hash over its neighbors for hundreds of miles.


Ah, yes, we keep coming back to AM-IBOC-DX issues. I knew we'd get around to that. There have not been massive complaints from listeners since AM stations started using HD.

I've said it before and it bears repeating. Today's crop of HD radios are big, ugly, power sucking cubes that don't fit well into anyone's lifestyles.

I have a small unit on my desk that is smaller than the Bose Wave Radio that it sits next to. Plugs into a plain wall socket...I'm not sure of what 'lifestyle" you lead.

An FM radio in the late 1960s was like an AM radio, only nicer.


No, it was MUCH bigger...expensive, needed a large outdoor antenna...and most of the first FM recievers were simply mono. (and insert all the same complaints people have about HD...programming, inferior technology, etc, etc.)

Not true of most HD radios in the marketplace. People love their personal listening devices. They love them to be small, sleek and to work well without having to think much about them. Not ONE HD radio offers this as yet.

I recall when people ahd transistor AM radios as their "personal listening devices". Not ONE transistor offered FM! And when they did, it did not work well, and was frustrating unless you were sitting under the FM tower. What happened? The technology simply got better.

Again, you keep thinking this is the finish line. If we were to judge FM by its first forays into the public we would have all declared it a failure. But it was here to stay, the technology got better, a new generation embraced it...receivers got made in every shape, color and style. Programming got better, sponsors weren't shy of spending on FM, etc.

Lastly, HD radio has tons of competition.


Agreed! So, radio should sit back and do nothing? Radio has to be innovative and come up with new ideas and technology...however, there are people like you that apparently want to go back to the dark analog days! How's your DOS working out?

and, finally - the HD killer - internet radio.

I love this. You complain about the sate of the marketplace for HD...and the bad technology, and the lack of interest.....and then propose INTERNET RADIO as a replacement?!>!>!

All of the complaints about dropouts and lack of coverage, and crappy automated programming.....is all applicable to the delusional concept of internet radio.

Now, it may come down the road sometime...but it certainly isn't ready for prime-time.

Screwing up our present radio stations with digital sidebands is generating buzz, but the kind that interferes with other broadcasters.


We keep coming back to AM-Nighttime-HD-DX don't we? This is funny...like one big circle.


Honestly DJ, there's NO excitement out there among the public about HD radio. None. None at all. I'll repeat this once more so you get it: NO EXCITEMENT AT ALL. THEY DON'T CARE.

There is NO excitement out there about radio in general..I repeat..NONE AT ALL! ;-) People yawn about AM-FM-HD-SWL-HAM-Scanners, etc.

And whats your solution for this apathy? "What we have now is fine!"


What broadcasters are doing by polluting the airwaves with crap digital sidebands


Back to AM-HD-IBOC-Nightime again...like a broken record.

The public does not care about "sidebands" There has been no outcry of interference from the public since AM's turned on their HD. THiese are issues of DX-ers and hobbyist.
 
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