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Herald I-Track hints: Bruins to WZLX (not confirmed...)

Boston Herald inside track from Sun.; can't be confirmed, but interesting

"(We hear) That the Boston Bruins deny it, but the team may be putting its radio partner, WBZ-AM, on waivers next season in favor of its FM sister station, WZLX. That’s the buzz at ’BZ anyway".
 
At first glance, it would make sense for both the team and the station.
The demo that the Bruins want to snag would seem to more naturally gravitate to FM than AM, and it could only help 'ZLX at night, which is when most games are played.
It also seems to me that CBS would love to have sports teams on two of its FM's. Maybe not so much for ratings as for advertising dollars. You can sponsor the heck out of a hockey game, everything from the opening face off to a power play, etc.
 
rapking said:
One of many reasons...Boston Music radio stations SUCK !

Were 'ZLX to have announced they were going Hurban, you'd have shouted it from the rooftops. No offense intended, but when't the last time you had anything other than scorn for anything that happens in Boston radio? I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I just wonder why someone who thinks Boston radio sucks, would spend this much time discussing it.

Perhaps this is the prelude to the long-rumored flipping of one of CBS' two rock stations?

Perhaps WZLX goes away, a deal is worked out for the Pats to move over, and they merge ZLX and WBCN in to what BCN used to be? They keep the BCN calls and truly re-launch the Rock Of Boston? Who knows? But surely, "Boston Music radio stations SUCK" doesn't really offer any tangible discussion fodder. It's a grenade tossed to elicit a response.

You got one.
 
We could have 2 of our major sports teams on FM if this happens (Pats 'BCN, B's 'ZLX) and technically if
you count WBOQ as being part of Boston, all 4 (since they carry the Red Sox and Celts). (WBOQ is not
the flagship of those 2 teams of course...and they don't reach all of the area, especially since they
yield to WRBB in Boston)

With WBCN you have the symbiotic relationship of a youthful rock fan audience and the team (the format
is even part of the name: The WBCN New England Patriots Rock Radio Network) and FM has sound quality
which amplified the various "hits" by players, referees' whistles, crowd noise, etc. The Sox (crack of the
bat, crowd cheers) and Celts (those sneakers squeaking on the parquet floor) can sound good on FM too

Many teams have wound up on FM stations as their flagship; in Pittsburgh for example they moved to
an FM talker from the ancient and honored KDKA.

>>The demo that the Bruins want to snag would seem to more naturally gravitate to FM than AM, and it could only help 'ZLX at night, which is when most games are played.
It also seems to me that CBS would love to have sports teams on two of its FM's. Maybe not so much for ratings as for advertising dollars. You can sponsor the heck out of a hockey game, everything from the opening face off to a power play, etc.

Very true
As for interrupting programming I think hockey (and basketball) have about half the number of games
baseball has--so, 80 instead of 162 (of course there are pre- and post-season games to consider)
so maybe it wouldn't be as much of an inconvenience to 'ZLX's music format as a baseball team would
be. It would also free up time for more talk on WBZ.

The Red Sox had some FMs carrying them in the past, perhaps as flagship: there was the Campbell Soup,
er,
Sports Network on WPLM 99.1 and I think some/all of the games were carried on WWEL 107.9 at one
point, right?
The key for an FM signal carrying games is for it to be strong. Remember that for awhile WBOS was
being considered for Sox flagship till Greater Media decided to pull out of the running.
 
Were 'ZLX to have announced they were going Hurban, you'd have shouted it from the rooftops . If it sounds like JAMN ? Hell No ! If sound like Hot 106 ( RI )? Ok . If it sounds like Hot 93.7 ( CT ) ? I will Love It !
 
Neanderpaul said:
rapking said:
One of many reasons...Boston Music radio stations SUCK !

Were 'ZLX to have announced they were going Hurban, you'd have shouted it from the rooftops. No offense intended, but when't the last time you had anything other than scorn for anything that happens in Boston radio? I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I just wonder why someone who thinks Boston radio sucks, would spend this much time discussing it.

Perhaps this is the prelude to the long-rumored flipping of one of CBS' two rock stations?

Perhaps WZLX goes away, a deal is worked out for the Pats to move over, and they merge ZLX and WBCN in to what BCN used to be? They keep the BCN calls and truly re-launch the Rock Of Boston? Who knows? But surely, "Boston Music radio stations SUCK" doesn't really offer any tangible discussion fodder. It's a grenade tossed to elicit a response.

You got one.
Its to Bad that a Great City like Boston..has a awful radio band. 97.7 signal is no help to WAAF ( Ratings 2 something aka awful ) . ZLX avg Classic Rock station ( Add the Bruins and this station will stink ) Kiss 108 Avg CHR/Pop station ( Living from the past , on there way to stinkness ) . WFNX The World's worst Rock station . WJMN Avg CHR/R Station ( Baka Boys, Back Spin , Sunday Night Launch pad , Weekend Mix Shows are HOT . WJMN Daily Playlist is BullSh-T ) Sleepy 99.1 signal is so weak, I dont know how can they called them a Boston station . WBCN is Ok ( If this station ever go to FM Talk or Sports, This station will suck ). WAAF need to go back to Paxson ( Why would Brainless Entercom will mess with a signal that can be reach , almost all of MA ? ) Fire MIKE ! ( I Hate other folks Ipod's , 93.7 waste of signal ) . Its to Bad all these Pirate Radio Stations are not on a Strong Signal ( Love Them Pirate's) . Radio One..The Worst thing that Happen to Boston inner city.. since Tobin bridge Jumper Charles Stuart . WRKO Home for Racist, sexist, Hate folks. 1510 Sporting News, Who care's ( Ratings , What Ratings ! This company cant get my mag, in my mailbox on time ) . 106.7 is ok ( My Dentist Office Love that station ) . 92.9 Incomplete ( I know nothing about this station ) . WROR Avg But sounding better lately . WEEI is America Best Sports Station ( D&C watch your mouth . I like to see Everett and Jamaine get a Part Time weekend job on WEEI ) . I Love College Radio 88.9 and 88.1 . Put The Bruins on WZLX.. and WZLX will hit the crapper like the NHL .
 
Does that mean they would try to steal away Dale Flanders... I mean, Arnold... to replace that abortion of a morning show they have on now? ???
 
rapking said:
WFNX The World's worst Rock station.

I guess you're not insane after all.
 
raccoonradio said:
Boston Herald inside track from Sun.; can't be confirmed, but interesting

"(We hear) That the Boston Bruins deny it, but the team may be putting its radio partner, WBZ-AM, on waivers next season in favor of its FM sister station, WZLX. That’s the buzz at ’BZ anyway".

And how is all this related to WRKO or Howie Carr?
 
Neanderpaul said:
rapking said:
One of many reasons...Boston Music radio stations SUCK !

Were 'ZLX to have announced they were going Hurban, you'd have shouted it from the rooftops. No offense intended, but when't the last time you had anything other than scorn for anything that happens in Boston radio? I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I just wonder why someone who thinks Boston radio sucks, would spend this much time discussing it.

Perhaps this is the prelude to the long-rumored flipping of one of CBS' two rock stations?

Perhaps WZLX goes away, a deal is worked out for the Pats to move over, and they merge ZLX and WBCN in to what BCN used to be? They keep the BCN calls and truly re-launch the R have ock Of Boston? Who knows? But surely, "Boston Music radio stations SUCK" doesn't really offer any tangible discussion fodder. It's a grenade tossed to elicit a response.

You got one.

You sound like the typical white suburban male. I really don't expect you to understand.

Rapking, if I read him correctly, does not have 'scorn' for Boston radio, but is frustrated by it. As am I. This market serves one type of person, while other large communities are ignored.
 
rapking said:
Its to Bad that a Great City like Boston..has a awful radio band. 97.7 signal is no help to WAAF ( Ratings 2 something aka awful ) . ZLX avg Classic Rock station ( Add the Bruins and this station will stink ) Kiss 108 Avg CHR/Pop station ( Living from the past , on there way to stinkness ) . WFNX The World's worst Rock station . WJMN Avg CHR/R Station ( Baka Boys, Back Spin , Sunday Night Launch pad , Weekend Mix Shows are HOT . WJMN Daily Playlist is BullSh-T ) Sleepy 99.1 signal is so weak, I dont know how can they called them a Boston station . WBCN is Ok ( If this station ever go to FM Talk or Sports, This station will suck ). WAAF need to go back to Paxson ( Why would Brainless Entercom will mess with a signal that can be reach , almost all of MA ? ) Fire MIKE ! ( I Hate other folks Ipod's , 93.7 waste of signal ) . Its to Bad all these Pirate Radio Stations are not on a Strong Signal ( Love Them Pirate's) . Radio One..The Worst thing that Happen to Boston inner city.. since Tobin bridge Jumper Charles Stuart . WRKO Home for Racist, sexist, Hate folks. 1510 Sporting News, Who care's ( Ratings , What Ratings ! This company cant get my mag, in my mailbox on time ) . 106.7 is ok ( My Dentist Office Love that station ) . 92.9 Incomplete ( I know nothing about this station ) . WROR Avg But sounding better lately . WEEI is America Best Sports Station ( D&C watch your mouth . I like to see Everett and Jamaine get a Part Time weekend job on WEEI ) . I Love College Radio 88.9 and 88.1 . Put The Bruins on WZLX.. and WZLX will hit the crapper like the NHL .

Sounds like you have no reason to listen to Boston radio. What DO you listen to?
 
Ciao said:
You sound like the typical white suburban male. I really don't expect you to understand.

Way to pull the completely unrelated race card. For your information, You couldn't be more wrong. Bent Ct. represent! It doesn't get more "urban" than where I'm from. And again, skin pigment has nothing to do with this conversation.

I grew up listening to SugarHill, P-Funk, Kurtis Blow, BDP, Melle Mel, PE, Jonzun Crew, Whodini etc. I'm fairly well-versed in Hip Hop culture. But, of course you assumed you knew my background and therefore misjudged. AND played the race card where it has no place.

The fact remains that there were two great urban stations in Boston. Neither of them were profitable enough to sustain operating costs. What part of that equation can't you fathom?

Ciao said:
Rapking, if I read him correctly, does not have 'scorn' for Boston radio, but is frustrated by it. As am I. This market serves one type of person, while other large communities are ignored.

Completely, unequivocally, incorrect. The market was served. It didn't support the product, or the clients who advertised upon it. The owners sold to a buyer, as was their right. It's gone, and truthfully, not many people care. They're happy with what they're getting from Jamn' and KISS. Both stations fought off the competitor by marketing, and serving their target audiences better. If there were a legitimate hole for what you want to hear...it'd be filled already. But, there is no such hole.

..and you never know what you have until it's gone.

Getting back ON-topic. I'm sure the Bruins would love to be on FM. The NHL is suffering from horrible national ratings due to their decision to negotiate a terrible TV deal. In a city like Boston, one of the few where the NHL posts profits, cutting a deal to move to an FM signal makes sense. Now the question is...does it make sense to blow up both stations, and can the Pats be moved over to WZLX? I'm of the understanding they have a "no move" deal, and that any attempt would have to be OK'd by the Krafts.

Rock radio is moving backwards. The fragmented formats are going away in favor of a return to AOR. Why? Because quite simply, there isn't enough "new music" in Active, Mainstream, and Alternative radio to support three distinct formats. And record co. budgets have been slashed to the point of they cannot superserve individual formats. So the station that casts the widest possible net...will eventually win. Which is why WBCN plays some Classic Rock, and WAAF has incorporated a ton of artists that traditionally, they'd never touch.

Bringing us full circle to (IMHO) CBS' best move; to obliterate WZLX, and combine the best of that playlist with the best of WBCN's playlist, thereby re-launching "The Rock Of Boston" as we once knew it. The station that played the Allman Bros. and Elvis Costello back then, can now play both of them, AND Grunge, AND new rock like Wolfmother & The White Stripes, which are nothing but new versions of Cream, and The Clash anyway.

That's what WBCN was, and what Boston remembers it as. That's ingrained heritage. You can't beat that. You take the best of two (perceptively..I don't know) underperforming stations, and create one efficient, cume-friendly rock station.

AND...you create that FM Sports station everyone's been predicting for 5 years.

...of course this opens up another can o' worms. Can WEEI be taken?
 
Neanderpaul said:
can the Pats be moved over to WZLX? I'm of the understanding they have a "no move" deal, and that any attempt would have to be OK'd by the Krafts.

That's what I've heard, also. The Krafts are not unintelligent. If they see the potential of such a move, they'd agree to it.

Neanderpaul said:
Bringing us full circle to (IMHO) CBS' best move; to obliterate WZLX, and combine the best of that playlist with the best of WBCN's playlist, thereby re-launching "The Rock Of Boston" as we once knew it.

That's what WBCN was, and what Boston remembers it as. That's ingrained heritage. You can't beat that. You take the best of two (perceptively..I don't know) underperforming stations, and create one efficient, cume-friendly rock station.

AND...you create that FM Sports station everyone's been predicting for 5 years.

I'm usually not big on going Back to the Future with station branding, but WBCN would be an exception if it brought back the Rock of Boston, and actually lived up to it. I think the station would score huge with the idea Paul writes about. Many of us have thought for a long time that something like this should happen with these two stations.
 
Mickey37 said:
Neanderpaul said:
can the Pats be moved over to WZLX? I'm of the understanding they have a "no move" deal, and that any attempt would have to be OK'd by the Krafts.

That's what I've heard, also. The Krafts are not unintelligent. If they see the potential of such a move, they'd agree to it.

Neanderpaul said:
Bringing us full circle to (IMHO) CBS' best move; to obliterate WZLX, and combine the best of that playlist with the best of WBCN's playlist, thereby re-launching "The Rock Of Boston" as we once knew it.

That's what WBCN was, and what Boston remembers it as. That's ingrained heritage. You can't beat that. You take the best of two (perceptively..I don't know) underperforming stations, and create one efficient, cume-friendly rock station.

AND...you create that FM Sports station everyone's been predicting for 5 years.

I'm usually not big on going Back to the Future with station branding, but WBCN would be an exception if it brought back the Rock of Boston, and actually lived up to it. I think the station would score huge with the idea Paul writes about. Many of us have thought for a long time that something like this should happen with these two stations.

A hot talk/sports station on 100.7 certainly wouldn't be a bad idea... at the least, it would consolidate all of CBS' young male-targeted offerings on one station. Replace K&M with O&A, add Toucher and Rich, Bruins, Pats, and sports talk in evenings... meanwhile, 104.1 could go with a music-intensive morning show (not unlike KITS/San Francisco) and the Rock of Boston all day long.

The only question: is CBS looking at putting the Bruins on 100.7 to actually pull something like this off, or are they just looking to move the Bruins so WBZ can keep its high-rated news/talk programming on a more normal schedule?
 
"Way to pull the completely unrelated race card. For your information, You couldn't be more wrong. Bent Ct. represent! It doesn't get more "urban" than where I'm from. And again, skin pigment has nothing to do with this conversation.

I grew up listening to SugarHill, P-Funk, Kurtis Blow, BDP, Melle Mel, PE, Jonzun Crew, Whodini etc. I'm fairly well-versed in Hip Hop culture. But, of course you assumed you knew my background and therefore misjudged. AND played the race card where it has no place. "

FYI, there is more to urban radio than hip hop. Another stereotype. School yourself on gospel, R&B, old school, socca, reggae, jazz. Soul. Black oriented Newscasts.

Big deal if you listen to hip hop. Stats show most consumers are white anyways. I mentioned black Urban radio, you're the one who limits it to rap. And urban radio will succeed in Boston, if not on FM, on a decent AM.
 
Infidel said:
Lucylu said:
Somehow I don't see Hockey working on a Hip Hop station. Maybe it's just me. ;D

There aren't enough hockey players with criminal records :eek:

You gotta be kidding me. Hockey players don't have criminal records? Where did you grow up? It's the ones with juvenile records that go into hockey in the first place. It's just they get off because someone in the extended family works in the court system and gets them off. (I went to a school with hockey - believe me - they trashed the most country clubs at their frat parties, they drank the most, they smashed the most beer bottles in the hallway, they destroyed the most furniture in the basement of the dorm... need I go on??)
 
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