To a back-stabbing Clueless company that droved everything down to the ground. Cumulus was supposed to be a major player when it resurrected KLOL back from the dead, and after carrying it with a poor reception (through 2 dial positions), poor management, Losing Walton & Johnson to KPRC-AM, and a war against KTBZ & KKRW, Cumulus has no choice to flip to JACK-FM. It's TIME to raise some HELL! It's time to show how much we love Rock 103-7, and It's time for other companies out there to flip their poorly-rated stations to Active Rock Immediately. I know this is a difficult time for true Rock'n Roll fans out there. Life goes on, Houston Radio has been completely different these days.
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Houston. It's time to let your voice be heard. We've lost a good rock station...
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purpledevil
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Let me take you on a trip down memory lane.
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The result was 103.7. Maybe you should talk to them and see what they think about what they were given for their time and effort. You really think this is going to work again? I mean, be patient. I'm positive that someone is going to compete with Clear Channel for the rock audience again, most likely before the end of the year. Then we can all post about how Cox is sooooo wrong about abandoning Classic Country or the 80's and how Rock 97.1 or 106.9 The Eagle will never beat The Arrow, because Cox just runs everything on autopilot and ya de da. When that petition began in November '04 it wasn't so much for a station that played rock, as much as it was for saving the heritage that we all grew up with. KIOL didn't have that heritage. Starting any petition to bring back that God awful classic rock crap they were playing at 103.7 would be like spitting into the wind. At least with Jack the song selection is interesting, and sounds better than the alternative "Adult Hits" station Bob in Hempstead. I'm just thinking you'd be wasting your time with this Troy. I mean, after all, I did. But good luck to you.
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The result was 103.7. Maybe you should talk to them and see what they think about what they were given for their time and effort. You really think this is going to work again? I mean, be patient. I'm positive that someone is going to compete with Clear Channel for the rock audience again, most likely before the end of the year. Then we can all post about how Cox is sooooo wrong about abandoning Classic Country or the 80's and how Rock 97.1 or 106.9 The Eagle will never beat The Arrow, because Cox just runs everything on autopilot and ya de da. When that petition began in November '04 it wasn't so much for a station that played rock, as much as it was for saving the heritage that we all grew up with. KIOL didn't have that heritage. Starting any petition to bring back that God awful classic rock crap they were playing at 103.7 would be like spitting into the wind. At least with Jack the song selection is interesting, and sounds better than the alternative "Adult Hits" station Bob in Hempstead. I'm just thinking you'd be wasting your time with this Troy. I mean, after all, I did. But good luck to you.
I think it's time to move on. Clear Channel really did destroyed Rock 101's legacy, and KIOL was no match for it at all. I believe there is a great rock station out there as it balances BOTH Classic & Alternative at the same time. It is called BIG DOG 106 (KIOC), and for people who dearly missed KLOL/KIOL, you can hear it online at www.bigdog106.com.
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kendro
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A RockAid Admin's opinion of KIOL 103.7:
Cumulus's attempt to "revive" the legacy was low-rent. Fant does have the ability to pull it off but what he was allowed to do was not what it took.
It was clearly targeted (hopefully unintentionally) at a demographic that was neither suitable for the "cash-and-carry" crowd or the executive / administrative crowd who's age the format best fit. How can you sell
I'm sorry, folks. To the majority of those who signed the petition and posted regularly on the RockAid boards, the media of radio died as well. We've embraced new technology that gives us more of what we want.
I still hang in there because of the tremendous talent in the industry and I believe there will be changes in the media.
The business landscape will change but not in a timely fashion that most will tolerate.
Cumulus's attempt to "revive" the legacy was low-rent. Fant does have the ability to pull it off but what he was allowed to do was not what it took.
It was clearly targeted (hopefully unintentionally) at a demographic that was neither suitable for the "cash-and-carry" crowd or the executive / administrative crowd who's age the format best fit. How can you sell
I'm sorry, folks. To the majority of those who signed the petition and posted regularly on the RockAid boards, the media of radio died as well. We've embraced new technology that gives us more of what we want.
I still hang in there because of the tremendous talent in the industry and I believe there will be changes in the media.
The business landscape will change but not in a timely fashion that most will tolerate.
Re: Houston. It's time to let your voice be heard. We've lost a good rock statio
KIOL was a joke (and for that matter, KLOL was a joke for the last several years of its rock existence). Let it go.
KIOL was a joke (and for that matter, KLOL was a joke for the last several years of its rock existence). Let it go.
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kendro
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Re: Houston. It's time to let your voice be heard. We've lost a good rock statio
Your right.
The format is dead and the former listeners just aren't interested in radio anymore.
Your right.
The format is dead and the former listeners just aren't interested in radio anymore.
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gitch
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Re: Houston. It's time to let your voice be heard. We've lost a good rock statio
KIOL was far from even being close to a good rock station. The playlist sucked from day one.
My routine was to tune in between 5:30 and 10:00, then after that the music started, and I would just cruise the dial.
Oddly enough, Now I'm listening to 103.7 for the music. Listened to it all the way home from Lake Charles today.
KIOL was far from even being close to a good rock station. The playlist sucked from day one.
My routine was to tune in between 5:30 and 10:00, then after that the music started, and I would just cruise the dial.
Oddly enough, Now I'm listening to 103.7 for the music. Listened to it all the way home from Lake Charles today.
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mrtexmex2007
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So rock is dead???
Well welcome to " The Tejano and Rock R.I.P Club!!!!
Well welcome to " The Tejano and Rock R.I.P Club!!!!
purpledevil said:
Ran into Outlaw Dave the other day and said he's returning to the airwaves at the beginning of the year. He would not tell me where when I asked. We'll have to see, I don't see Dave fitting in anywhere but rock, so unless he's going to the buzz or the arrow, something new will be popping up hopfullly. I agree though, 103.7 was not a good rock station.
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Fo-Fo-Fo-Hye
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Hasn't Dave said the same thing about 4 other times? Other than hearing him do ads for certain places, I just don't see it.
Re: Houston. It's time to let your voice be heard. We've lost a good rock statio
Everyone needs to get a grip -- the AOR format is dead and has been for some time. Can it come back in the future? Probably, but it will be different.
For now, we have to be content with "alternative" style rock (which, when you really think about it, The Buzz is an AOR station for 90's and 200's popular brand of rock -- there's not really anything "alternative" on that station anymore) and classic rock (93.7). Outside of the "alternative" rock artists, mainstream rock acts' new records aren't selling like they used to, which is why most AOR stations left in the country lean heavily towards classic rock.
Finally, Jack will be more successful rating-wise than Rock KIOL, but no format will do amazingly well on that station until the signal can reach the full Houston metroplex.
Everyone needs to get a grip -- the AOR format is dead and has been for some time. Can it come back in the future? Probably, but it will be different.
For now, we have to be content with "alternative" style rock (which, when you really think about it, The Buzz is an AOR station for 90's and 200's popular brand of rock -- there's not really anything "alternative" on that station anymore) and classic rock (93.7). Outside of the "alternative" rock artists, mainstream rock acts' new records aren't selling like they used to, which is why most AOR stations left in the country lean heavily towards classic rock.
Finally, Jack will be more successful rating-wise than Rock KIOL, but no format will do amazingly well on that station until the signal can reach the full Houston metroplex.
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ilistentotheradio
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Re: Houston. It's time to let your voice be heard. We've lost a good rock statio
Which is never because of spacing to KRBE.
ericspin said:
Which is never because of spacing to KRBE.
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snoman
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Re: Houston. It's time to let your voice be heard. We've lost a good rock statio
Yeah, KIOL was just a bad memory of what KLOL sounded like it's last couple of years , after Cheap Channel ruined it. Be glad they only did one station like that here. In the DFW area, they ruined three... 97.1 THE EAGLE (Active Rock, now Spanish Oldies), Q102 (Rock, then Jammin' Oldies, now 102.1 THE EDGE... Alternative), and most recently 92.5 KZPS (Classic Rock, now a Southern Rock/Country hybrid format called Lone Star 92.5 or something like that). Rock is not dead, like anything else, it is how you program it. Clueless Cumulus tried to revive a station that no one was listening to on a good frequency, and put it on a rimshot. It was doomed from the start. Not to mention, they sounded just like KKRW with old KLOL jocks. It was just a bad mix and it was destined to failure. As sad as it is to see the last of the KLOL/KIOL era, it's best that KLOL's hey day is no longer being tarnished by KIOL.
"JACK" will not be a ratings powerhouse, but it will do better than the Classic Rock format that KIOL was doing before.
Yeah, KIOL was just a bad memory of what KLOL sounded like it's last couple of years , after Cheap Channel ruined it. Be glad they only did one station like that here. In the DFW area, they ruined three... 97.1 THE EAGLE (Active Rock, now Spanish Oldies), Q102 (Rock, then Jammin' Oldies, now 102.1 THE EDGE... Alternative), and most recently 92.5 KZPS (Classic Rock, now a Southern Rock/Country hybrid format called Lone Star 92.5 or something like that). Rock is not dead, like anything else, it is how you program it. Clueless Cumulus tried to revive a station that no one was listening to on a good frequency, and put it on a rimshot. It was doomed from the start. Not to mention, they sounded just like KKRW with old KLOL jocks. It was just a bad mix and it was destined to failure. As sad as it is to see the last of the KLOL/KIOL era, it's best that KLOL's hey day is no longer being tarnished by KIOL.
"JACK" will not be a ratings powerhouse, but it will do better than the Classic Rock format that KIOL was doing before.
New member here, long time lurker.
Can't open the 1st page of this thread but saw yesterday where someone commented that if it's a Rock station that ya want, then Big Dog 106 is where it's at.
Please, I'm not lookin' for 2-minute versions of Twilight Zone by Golden Earring. Suffice it to say, KIOC is just a reincarnation of B95.
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(I am being nice)
Can't open the 1st page of this thread but saw yesterday where someone commented that if it's a Rock station that ya want, then Big Dog 106 is where it's at.
Please, I'm not lookin' for 2-minute versions of Twilight Zone by Golden Earring. Suffice it to say, KIOC is just a reincarnation of B95.
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(I am being nice)
Re: Houston. It's time to let your voice be heard. We've lost a good rock statio
in richmond va i live near it it also had a so-called heritage clasic rock station WRLX XL-102, but something happened to it it was destroyed by greed, thank you oh so very much clear-channel for blowing it up. & for what format You Ask Nothing But Yet Another anoying alt station, see here we already had one but it had piss-poor reception you could only hear it if you lived south of the city,but to make a very long story short both station Y101 & (Sorry about this BLUGH) 102.1 The X. see i told you the "new Name" was gonna suck. play the same BORING emo crap. so in the end both cox who own y-101 & & clear-channel who own The X Prety Much Killed Each Other Because In The Summer Ratings they both were at the bottom of the heap, & guess who both were betten by, yep a clasic rock station in fredreksburg va
in richmond va i live near it it also had a so-called heritage clasic rock station WRLX XL-102, but something happened to it it was destroyed by greed, thank you oh so very much clear-channel for blowing it up. & for what format You Ask Nothing But Yet Another anoying alt station, see here we already had one but it had piss-poor reception you could only hear it if you lived south of the city,but to make a very long story short both station Y101 & (Sorry about this BLUGH) 102.1 The X. see i told you the "new Name" was gonna suck. play the same BORING emo crap. so in the end both cox who own y-101 & & clear-channel who own The X Prety Much Killed Each Other Because In The Summer Ratings they both were at the bottom of the heap, & guess who both were betten by, yep a clasic rock station in fredreksburg va
Re: Houston. It's time to let your voice be heard. We've lost a good rock statio
I miss Zoom 104 and a half...those days are long gone for radio, I'm afraid.
There has been much discussion on what a good "rock station" would be and much of the disagreement is generational in nature. For many of us who grew up with AOR or album rock stations, classic rock stations might be the closest match but leaves out newer rock. And within rock there are several subdivisions out of which you could completely format a station. I really liked David Sadof's show on 97.5 (hated that it was in mono) but I liked that kind of variety with a non-standard sort of playlist used. Again, that doesn't seem to happen much on any "rock" station, regardless of generational target audience.
KZOM_104.5 said:
I miss Zoom 104 and a half...those days are long gone for radio, I'm afraid.
There has been much discussion on what a good "rock station" would be and much of the disagreement is generational in nature. For many of us who grew up with AOR or album rock stations, classic rock stations might be the closest match but leaves out newer rock. And within rock there are several subdivisions out of which you could completely format a station. I really liked David Sadof's show on 97.5 (hated that it was in mono) but I liked that kind of variety with a non-standard sort of playlist used. Again, that doesn't seem to happen much on any "rock" station, regardless of generational target audience.
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kendro
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smashedcd said:
Go to Houston's Jack station website, look at the photos page and honestly tell me the gentleman wearing the brown sportcoat and grey beard isn't trying to remember how to make a noose out of his shoelaces.
Re: Houston. It's time to let your voice be heard. We've lost a good rock statio
Rock does very well here in Madison, WI where we have one of the best programmed rock stations anywhere 94.1 WJJO. So rock isn't dead, it's how you program it. So far nobody in the Houston area has figured out how to do it right. Classic rock is nice, but how many classic rock stations do you need. There are so many new and very good bands out right now. It's just a shame that most of the rock programmers in Houston don't want you to hear their music. That's one of the many reasons I no longer live there. Sorry to hear about KIOL. But you guys really deserve MUCH better!
Rock does very well here in Madison, WI where we have one of the best programmed rock stations anywhere 94.1 WJJO. So rock isn't dead, it's how you program it. So far nobody in the Houston area has figured out how to do it right. Classic rock is nice, but how many classic rock stations do you need. There are so many new and very good bands out right now. It's just a shame that most of the rock programmers in Houston don't want you to hear their music. That's one of the many reasons I no longer live there. Sorry to hear about KIOL. But you guys really deserve MUCH better!
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