Long enough for the silent sense alarm in the automation to go off.
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How many radio stations play songs with false endings to them in LA
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At WQII in San Juan, I had an "audio processor" which was a panel with knobs and dials and meters. It was labeled by frequency band and lots of "db" stuff. It was connected to nothing. But several of the jocks thought that they would sound better with their own settings...
The real processing was locked behind a very dark plastic dropp-down panel. I had the key.
I get all that, and I've also heard of a few stations that had panels mounted in a rack in the studio that were basically just bolts with the threads poking through the front with knobs attached. Again, they did nothing, but it was amazing the jocks that were convinced they could tweak "their" sound by adjusting them here and there.
I guess what I was referring to when I asked about the days of the loudness wars and stations taking their equipment to achieve that seriously and keeping it under lock and key (the "loudness wars" pre-date my time in the business. By the time I got in, gear like Optimods were already in wide use), was when I saw David's comment above about the heavily tinted, locked glass door on the front of the processing rack, and the rear access also being locked. That made it sound like the CE and station management not only didn't want their processing to be altered or "tweaked", but they were also maybe a little secretive and guardful about what exactly they had in the signal chain to achieve their station's "sound"?
Exactly. In particular, if the processing was proprietary management did not want anyone to see what they were using and how it was adjusted. Lots of that gear was home-built at the station or was heavily modified commercial gear so the whole process was secret.
Back around 1980 when I was in the building with Y-100 in Miami, I often sat in on discussions in the engineering offices of stuff like slew rates of new semiconductors. They built their own processors and modified the off-the-shelf ones. And the data never left the tech office.
Are you complaining?
I have a question. What is the difference between a "radio edit" and "false ending"?
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Toby Keith's 2002 country hit "Who's Your Daddy?" has a false ending about 30 seconds before the real ending, but the "Single Version" that was sent to radio stations cuts off at the false ending. However, some stations did play the album version that includes the real ending.
Passenger's "Let Her Go" (2014) has a long pause before the final acapella line that many stations either shortened or cut off early.
Passenger's "Let Her Go" (2014) has a long pause before the final acapella line that many stations either shortened or cut off early.
A false ending is when a song pauses with no audio for a brief moment before coming back on its own.
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You sent us some of your favourite songs that leave the stage early ... only to re-emerge for a surprise encore
"Keep on Dancing" is my favorite example but that is from 60 years ago!
“Good Vibrations” is mine, with the reverb just before the false ending. Second is “Bernadette” by the Four Tops.A false ending is when a song pauses with no audio for a brief moment before coming back on its own.
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You sent us some of your favourite songs that leave the stage early ... only to re-emerge for a surprise encorewww.theguardian.com
"Keep on Dancing" is my favorite example but that is from 60 years ago!
Keep in mind the pause in Good Vibrations was never intended to be an ending. Think of the song as a symphony with distinct movements. The pause comes at the end of the andante movement. Then the band kicks into the uptempo ending of the song. Quite a few of the songs in this thread fall into that category.
"Bernadette" is more of a dramatic pause than a false ending. (Same thing with Roxette's "The Look".)
A false ending, as its name suggests, makes you think the song has actually ended, by reaching what seems to be a natural conclusion (fade-out or graceful ending), before continuing. The continuation after the false ending is the unexpected part, not the false ending itself.
An unexpected, sudden stop or long pause is not a false ending.
I have a recording of Suspicion Minds played by KRTH in September 1990 and the fade is there. But it does not go completely to dead air before rising up. Not sure why Elvis recorded that song like that. What’s the reason behind that fade anyways?
Lots of folks here have explained what a false ending is. Regarding your question about radio edits, those would be cases where the original, full-length song has been edited to make it more suitable for airplay. Could involve editing to remove profanity or off-color language, could be editing a song for length, "tightening up" a selection by removing long, drawn-out instrumentals, etc.
Great one !!!
This fade out/fade in was put in afterwards, before the song was released, by a producer. I love that fade out/fade in, some do not, the song went to # 1.
The song had two producers: Chips Moman and Felton Jarvis. Chips owned the studio where it was recorded, and Felton worked for RCA. From what I've read, it was Felton who added the fade out, and Chips wasn't happy with it. But Felton controlled the label side of the recording, so it was his call. Perhaps he was influenced by I Am The Walrus, which had a similar fade.
Eric used this technique in several of his songs. The best example of a fake ending is in Overnight Sensation by The Raspberries.
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