Howie Carr - Arbiter of Taste & the CITGO sign

[raccoonradio]

The S_ITGO sign (I got the "H" out of there) issue was a fun topic, except maybe for moonbats; surely liberals might have similar quibbles with nations that oppress their people and would do their own protest. (Wasn't
there a boycott of Nestle products for awhile because of the company's policy overseas?) Conservatives and liberals alike can take an issue and have fun with it, or express vitriol...Let's replace it with a Halliburton sign!
Even if nothing is done with the sign, and I don't think anything WILL be done, it got the issue of Chavez
and Venezuela out in the open. (And a boycott of CITGO stations might not do its intended purpose: as has been pointed out, CITGO stations are run by people who aren't necessarily part and parcel of Chavez and
Venezuela, and the oil they sell may not even be from Venezuela...plus, even if we boycotted it, they could just sell to other countries.)

But imagine the indignation if Chavez came to the UN and said President John Kerry was the devil...Yes, he has the right,and we have the right to refute his comments--made at the UN, an organization which we HOST and
FUND. Nice guy...And if the UN were hosted by Venezuela and Bush went there to speak, and said the same
thing about Chavez, would he get out of the country alive?

People who speak out in countries like that (AGAINST the leaders) are punished if not killed. Appreciate what we have in America. Yes, the freedom of speech, and the freedom to use OUR speech to disagree.

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Impeach Bush--Seat President Cheney NOW!! ;D (The previous comment is Humor (TM), something I
try to put into every post, and not everyone will appreciate it, but not everyone appreciates
Al Franken either, I guess..)

 

[SonicOverload]

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We have freedom of speech in America--if Chavez wishes to exercise that right, he can, whether in good or bad taste. It doesn't matter where he's standing at any given time.

amen...

 

[raccoonradio]

>>I do respect the office of the American presidency, and no foreigner has the right to come here and insult him on American soil. I am an American, I can insult Bush, Chavez can not!

Yes, and someone (Pelosi or Rangel, forget who--both Dems) said basically the same thing. Also consider by the way that saying someone is the devil is a bit more extreme than disagreeing about a person's politics.

In America you can belong to whatever religion you choose, or no religion, and not to have worry about getting your head chopped off by the government.
In America you have freedom of speech but also must realize speech has consequences (can get you fired
from your job, for example)--but for the most part you can say what you want. In other countries, say
the slightest unkind thing about the leader and you can be greatly punished or killed.

etc.

 

[raccoonradio]

>>70% support

Yeah and Saddam got 100 per cent of the vote in Iraq. You talk about crooked elections

 

[raccoonradio]

>>when you go to the U.N. you leave the United States.

Too bad the UN can't leave the United States. Give it to Le French.

 

[raccoonradio]

>>Everyone in TV and Radio in New England did the Citgo Sign story yesterday. I saw two networks cover the story nationally. Taking issue with his choice is another example of why Varulven hasn't worked in the media for three decades.

Water cooler issue. It's what people are talking about. Actually I think Varulven is working in the media,
producing records and writing album reviews, to be fair...

 

[Django]

Yeah I get that Raccoon, you're a decent sort but I don't consider gratis jobs to be working in the media and he started this stupid thread hammering carr for doing something we both agree was exactly what he should be doing.

 

[Ron Jippey]

>>70% support

Yeah and Saddam got 100 per cent of the vote in Iraq. You talk about crooked elections

VZ's elections were closely monitored and Chavez got 59% of the vote. The Iraq elections that had the Republicans in Congress waving purple fingers were also closely monitored, internationally--are you saying those are fraudulent too?

When this board devolves into politics, it gets stupid. Cliches abound. Like, for example, the right-wing talk radio staple of how all Federal jobs should be outsourced and privatized--I bet you aren't crazy about that one, are you?

 

[Varulven]

Raccoon, they know my resume - but thank you for clarifying a bit of it for a detractor; MTV, VH1, MP3.com, Barnes & Noble, etc. etc. are where you can read my reviews - a batch of new ones to publish next week which is why I had to pull an all-nighter and get them in order.

And if it gets too political here they can go to Off The Air.

 

[Neanderpaul]

Raccoon, they know my resume - but thank you for clarifying a bit of it for a detractor; MTV, VH1, MP3.com, Barnes & Noble, etc. etc. are where you can read my reviews

Those websites invite anyone to post a comment on any topic.

 

[raccoonradio]

>>VZ's elections were closely monitored

by that wonderful Jimmy "Malaise" Carter I believe ;D

 

[Varulven]

That might be true that anyone can post comments on the sites, but the core review is written by a paid professional. Everyone else gets to post for free.

Stop trying to belittle what I do to earn my living, Paul. Just because I get a platform to talk about music and express my opinion to a worldwide audience- more of a platform than most dj's get, is no reason for you to be snippy. It is unbecoming and most people on the board that want to really discuss radio find your lies tiresome.

As Raccoon noted, I am a writer - and get to write in Boston - not in Kansas (though I could take my computer any place in the world and do the same thing. Italy sounds nice, but I'll settle for Maine...


Mastering Genius
http://www.medialinenews.com/issues/2000/preparation/0606/0606.2.shtml

Velvets Part 1
http://www.medialinenews.com/issues/2002/january/packaging0102_03.shtml


The Velvet Underground Part 2
http://www.medialinenews.com/issues/2002/february/news0206_16.shtml

The Doors' Bruce Botnik
http://www.medialinenews.com/issues/2001/preparation/0209/0209.4.shtml



Here's my current masterpiece:

http://www2.townonline.com/medford/artsLifestyle/view.bg?articleid=577906

Also, try pulling an all-nighter, then have to go to a studio session (the tapes featuring Celine Dion's keyboard player and Jimi Hendrix's vibe player), and then a midnight trek to see Little Walter up in Methuen to bring him a stack of papers with his article. That's a tough schedule that Neanderpaul couldn't handle.

 

[Neanderpaul]

Stop trying to belittle what I do to earn my living, Paul. Just because I get a platform to talk about music and express my opinion to a worldwide audience- more of a platform than most dj's get, is no reason for you to be snippy. It is unbecoming and most people on the board that want to really discuss radio find your lies tiresome.

My criticism = lies

Your repeated inaccurate, uninformed, slanderous, false posts = journalism

Just trying to make sure everyone's clear.

You might be "writer." But, you are no journalist. Journalists do research. Journalists get their facts straight. Journalists allow, and accept criticism of their work. When a journalist prints misinformation, and it's proven to be so, a journalist prints a retraction, and admits they've made a mistake.

There's a big difference between keeping a journal, and being a journalist.

 

[Varulven]

No, Paul "Criticism" is when someone says "Neanderpaul is a terrible d.j. and got fired from WAAF". A lie is when you maliciously write that "anyone" can post a comment and that my work is part of the "comment" section.
That is a lie - (which I reported to the moderator), and its intent was to incite.

You get paid to be a d.j. we assume. I never said you didn't get paid. My criticism is that you don't deserve to be paid in Boston and the employers here seem to agree. You are in Kansas, a smaller market for a smaller talent. That's an accurate criticism. You wrote a lie.

 

[Neanderpaul]

A lie is when you maliciously write that "anyone" can post a comment and that my work is part of the "comment" section.
That is a lie - (which I reported to the moderator), and its intent was to incite.

You get paid to be a d.j. we assume. I never said you didn't get paid. My criticism is that you don't deserve to be paid in Boston and the employers here seem to agree. You are in Kansas, a smaller market for a smaller talent. That's an accurate criticism. You wrote a lie.

I'd like you to re-read my post, and please show me where I said your work is part of the "comment" section.

I merely pointed out that anyone is allowed to post on those sites. I believe it was you that talked about having "thin skin."

My criticism of your work is valid. I question the legitimacy of everything you've ever done. As is my right. My criticism is fact-based. Yours is personally slanted, and the epitome of subjective. That's fine. I accept your criticisms, and advise anyone who reads them to consider the source. And let's look at the source shall we?

You constantly post inaccuracies on this board. You write malicious, false statements, and claim them to be fact. Repeated fact-checking has proven that you don't research the topics you comment upon. You contradict your own mores, policies, and philosophies. Sometimes within a single post.

Due to these proven facts, your journalistic integrity is suspect on even the most base levels.

Go ahead and report this post to the mods too. I expect the same latitudes afforded me in my criticisms, that you've enjoyed all this time. Perhaps now we'll find out if the alleged journalist is receiving preferential treatment. You kicked the wrong dog. You want to play in the media world? You should learn and abide by its rules.

I have every right to respectfully criticize every word you type. I have shown your posts to be falsehoods on several occasions. Based on the consistent glaring inaccuracy of their content, I have proven that your posts should be viewed with the highest level of skepticism possible.

Welcome to the media.

 

[Varulven]

Your post was written maliciously to say that my work is something anyone can do. That is factually incorrect.

You have heard of the word context? Do you know what it means? If we are to look at your post in its correct context you are disagreeing with Raccoon who stated that Varulven is in the media. You stated clearly that "anyone" can do what Raccoon was describing. It was factually true that "anyone" can do a comment, but we weren't posting about comments. You changed the subject in an effort to defame me. So yes, You lied. You took the original context, twisted it to create some hateful post designed to denigrate a man's hard work.

You seem to be holding a grudge against me for what someone at some sports station did to you. Have you ever heard of forgiveness? Forgive Mr. Castiglione or Mr. Wolfe or Mistress Carrie - whichever individual you are mad at this hour - and move on.

There's a woman who has the job you covet - in the City that you made it clear you wish you could've stayed in. Go back to that movie DISCLOSURE I mentioned. The real culprit was not Demi Moore's character ("Meredith Johnson" was your garden variety tramp) - it was the deceptive and oh-so-friendly Stephanie Kaplan (played brilliantly by Mistress Rosemary Forsyth)who manipulated Demi, Michael Douglas and Donald Sutherland in order to get what she wanted. I'd give Mistress Carrie an award for that too! Brilliant - appearing to take the high road while taking your radio gig!

We do know one thing is factual here: You got fired from afternoon drive and Carrie got the gig. You just can't see the connection because you think you are friends with the person who got your job. You seem to forget there is LITTLE honor in radio - which is why I got out. When I did the heavy lifting to get the Strawberries account (I was friends with the president of the entire company after Morris Levy left) and the senior salesguy drooled over the propsect and made Harvey Wharfield's life miserable until that individual (whom I've since forgiven; but I will not forget it for survival purposes) could steal my work - that is when I got out of advertising. Dirty pool in a dirty business = Paul Marshall in Kansas. If you think it is a coincidence you have less intelligence than I first gave you credit for.

Just forgive her and let go. [EDIT]

PAUL MARSHALL WRITES:
You might be "writer." But, you are no journalist. Journalists do research. Journalists get their facts straight. Journalists allow, and accept criticism of their work. When a journalist prints misinformation, and it's proven to be so, a journalist prints a retraction, and admits they've made a mistake."

The biggest mistake was actually thinking you had a head on your shoulders. I guess when you SAY you are a neanderthal it starts to become reality. Eeek. Reminds me of the person who tattooed "loser" on his forehead. A wise Asian fellow said "Tattoo written on soul long before written on the forehead." So when you call yourself a Neanderthal it actually starts to become fact. Your swift boating has to be corrected by this journalist before it is perceived as fact. That takes talent because you are such a prolific liar.


[EDIT=ad hominem attack]

 

[Varulven]

Can everyone see how Raccoon defended me and Paul Marshall, an Entercom employee, once again took the thread about another Entercom employee, Howie Carr, off track so that we will talk about the person criticizing Carr the Entercom Employee instead of the fact that Howie Carr is a tasteless jerk!

Amazing. Yo Entercom! Is this Paul Marshall's penance for his whining when you fired him? He has to defend the indefensible?

 

[Neanderpaul]

Your post was written maliciously to say that my work is something anyone can do. That is factually incorrect.
You lied.

Nothing in my original post is in any way untrue.

There's a woman who has the job you covet - in the City that you made it clear you wish you could've stayed in.

There's a woman who has a job I once held. In the city I was born in, and would have loved to stay in at the time. Not having been exposed to the experiences I now have here in Kansas City. Knowing now what I do, and having the experiences that I have now enjoyed, I would not trade places with her. I have nothing but love, respect, and admiration for her. Your constant attempts at denigration of my career continue to fall flat. Those who work in this industry know more about it than you. Accept it.

We do know one thing is factual here: You got fired from afternoon drive and Carrie got the gig. You just can't see the connection because you think you are friends with the person who got your job.

Once again, a fine example of a post made with zero knowledge of the subjects involved. Yes, I was fired (oh and by the way, you still haven't done your homework. I was fired by Ron Valeri, who is the current program director of WAAF. I've never worked for Jason Wolfe. Mr. Valeri also hired me to work for WAAF 12 years ago. Just so you know. We remain friends.)

Carrie and I have been friends for almost 13 years. If I'm going to get the hook, I'm glad she's in the chair. She has earned it. She is a star. And the majority of Boston radio listeners targeted by all of the rock stations in town, love her.

Paul Marshall in Kansas. If you think it is a coincidence you have less intelligence than I first gave you credit for.

I've had a long successful career in an industry you consider a hobby. I've done fine without your credit. Based on the proven lack of journalistic integrity of your commentary, you can keep your disingenuous praise.

 

[Varulven]

I am a journalist. I stand by my investigations of Hendrix, The Doors, Janis Joplin, and bringing to the public rarities like Little Walter's tape of Hendrix & Little Richard. Last night I was with the woman who was with Walter at the Hendrix show - so I got more information for my book on Jimi. That's what journalists do.

RE: Paul Marshall
Yes, Ron Valeri may have let you go, I have evidence that it was Jason Wolfe that may have actually fired you. Like I said - radio is not a nice business. Glad you think Carrie is your friend. Denial is not just a river in ...in...ROME...no wait, that was Towerbuzz's quote...ahh...Fool Me Once, Shame on The Romans...something like that...

Clearly I've "gotten to" you, Paul and that was not my intent. You tried to Swift Boat me and continue to do so.
Sorry you are having such a bad day. You shouldn't throw rocks as much as you do, but I guess being a NeanderPaul, well, that's what they did in the stone age --- ??? (I'm asking...)

Consider Radio Pakistan so Bush can blast you back to your real home: Neanderthal= Stone Age.

Have you checked your blood pressure?

Notice how the Entercom employee keeps raiding the thread and not talking about Carr?

(have to go to lunch now, Paul, so you can attack me with no response from this camp. Since I believe you to be a coward I'm sure you'll try to level me while I'm away from my computer). Can you control yourself for a few hours, luv?

 

[Neanderpaul]

Can everyone see how Raccoon defended me and Paul Marshall, an Entercom employee, once again took the thread about another Entercom employee, Howie Carr, off track so that we will talk about the person criticizing Carr the Entercom Employee instead of the fact that Howie Carr is a tasteless jerk!

Amazing. Yo Entercom! Is this Paul Marshall's penance for his whining when you fired him? He has to defend the indefensible?

Let me comment once and for all on Howie Carr. I was Howie's phone screener while at WHDH in 1992. I do not like Howie Carr personally. Howie made unbelieveably disrespectful comments the day my friend Darrell Abbott was innocently shot dead by an assailant in Columbus, Ohio. I made Howie aware of my feelings privately, and we've not spoken since.

However...

Howie does a talk radio program. That program covers a variety of subject matter. An intelligent host, will chose whatever topic appeals to the greatest available audience. The Citgo sign has long been a passionate part of the Boston skyline. Whenever it is discussed, everyone appears to have an opinion. Whereas Chavez, and Venezuela are only relevant to those who have chosen to be informed. If Howie uses a broad-appeal subject to bring the masses in to his show to be exposed to whatever political agenda he chooses to discuss, that's just masterful execution of the format.

You have every right to disagree with his choice of topic. But it in no way invalidates his choice to discuss it.

And this comes from someone who absolutely hates Howie. That's what journalists do. They objectively consider the subject matter, weigh the pros & cons, take their position, agree to disagree on the subject, and move on.

No charge for the lesson scribe.