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i cant get radio ratings, from radio online.com. for february 2014.
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The February ratings page on **************** is timing out regardless of browser. No clue as to why
However. allaccess is up and below is their synopsis for Los Angeles - KFI seems to have improved by going all local during the day and evening. It takes three months befiore a station qualifies for the trending report. This means it will be the April figures that come out in May that will tell if converting KTLK to KEIB had the desired impact.
Here's the synopsis:
KFI, KOST Settle Tie In The City Of Angels
CLEAR CHANNEL Talker KFI-A bested family member AC KOST for king of the hill in LOS ANGELES, FEBRUARY P6+. The two tied for the top spot in JANUARY.
KFI walked away with a 4.9 share to KOST’s 4.5. Fellow CLEAR CHANNEL property TOP 40/Mainstream KIIS was flat with JANUARY, turning in a 3rd place finish and a 4.4.
CC HOT AC KBIG and EMMIS Top 40/Rhythmic KPWR settled out of their JANUARY tie as well. KBIG assumed the #4 rank (4.2 share) with KPWR settled into a
5th place tie with UNIVISION Spanish Contemporary KLVE; both with a 3.8 share.
Read more: http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/a...ppm-analysis-new-york-los-angel#ixzz2wIeBlM6O
However. allaccess is up and below is their synopsis for Los Angeles - KFI seems to have improved by going all local during the day and evening. It takes three months befiore a station qualifies for the trending report. This means it will be the April figures that come out in May that will tell if converting KTLK to KEIB had the desired impact.
Here's the synopsis:
KFI, KOST Settle Tie In The City Of Angels
CLEAR CHANNEL Talker KFI-A bested family member AC KOST for king of the hill in LOS ANGELES, FEBRUARY P6+. The two tied for the top spot in JANUARY.
KFI walked away with a 4.9 share to KOST’s 4.5. Fellow CLEAR CHANNEL property TOP 40/Mainstream KIIS was flat with JANUARY, turning in a 3rd place finish and a 4.4.
CC HOT AC KBIG and EMMIS Top 40/Rhythmic KPWR settled out of their JANUARY tie as well. KBIG assumed the #4 rank (4.2 share) with KPWR settled into a
5th place tie with UNIVISION Spanish Contemporary KLVE; both with a 3.8 share.
Read more: http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/a...ppm-analysis-new-york-los-angel#ixzz2wIeBlM6O
Art, that applied to the diary survey, which covered a 12 week period. The interim reports were averages of the previous 3 months.
In the PPM, there are 13 discreet "Books" named after each month plus a Holiday period; each is 28 days in duration.
There are no rolling averages. The February "book" covers Jan 20 to Feb 26, and is not a subset of any longer period. In other words, there is no Spring or Summer or Fall or Winter book any more... just the 13 4-week periods.
Also, those 6+ numbers look like a different month from a long time ago... the 6+ ranker was KIIS, KOST, KBIG, KPWR, KAMP, KRTH, KROQ, KHHT, KLVE and KYSR rounding out the top 10. KFI was 11th with a 3.1, and was beaten by KIIS, KOST, KBIG KYSR and KHHT in their own cluster. KIIS had a 5.5 in 6+, or 2.4 shares above KFI.
So looking at the February book shows you exactly how KEIB or KFI did in a period that only contains post-change listening.
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Thank you for the education. The All Access page I suppluied rthe link for doesn't give the year but you could be right - I note that the date stamp on the page is March 20 (which is two days from now!) I know nothing of these people and am getting leery as to their reliabiilty. The point of my post was simply an attempt to get around the inability to access ****************, which still seems to be an issue.
Do you (or anyone) have accurate first month numbers for KFI sans Rush and the programming reshuffle? Enquiring minds want to know!
And in another move, BTW, Rush is now on in the Inland Empire on Salem-owned KTIE, with Salem-syndicated Dennis Prager being tape delayed until the evening. KVTA in Ventura also carries him and its program scheudle mimics the CC tallk ststions in Los Angeles. Since Orange County listeners can always get Rush on KOGO it seems that the dittohead audience won't much miss Rush not being on 640.
Do you (or anyone) have accurate first month numbers for KFI sans Rush and the programming reshuffle? Enquiring minds want to know!
And in another move, BTW, Rush is now on in the Inland Empire on Salem-owned KTIE, with Salem-syndicated Dennis Prager being tape delayed until the evening. KVTA in Ventura also carries him and its program scheudle mimics the CC tallk ststions in Los Angeles. Since Orange County listeners can always get Rush on KOGO it seems that the dittohead audience won't much miss Rush not being on 640.
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I cross checked with my own Nielsen numbers and the LA chart at http://www.allaccess.com/nielsen#2 is accurate. The dates may be strange, but the data in the columns (left is oldest, right is newest) are correct. Look at Jan 14 for the first month... although the changes really took place at the end of this period.
So let's see if I read everything correctly: since December KFI has dropped from 3.1 to 3.0, still enough to be top dog in AM (KNX is 2.9) while KEIB has jumped from 0.1 to 0.6; KABC (which lost Hannity to KEIB) has remained steady at 0.5 as has KFWB (which lost Dave Ramsey) at 0.3. KRLA moved up from 0.3 to 0.5, meaning KFI is still #1 in news/talk. The bad news is that nine FM stations are ahead of KFI (four of them owned by Clear Channel).
Yep. That is correct. KYSR and KFI are tied at a 3.0 in share, but in AQH persons KYSR has a tiny advantage.
In 25-54, KFI is tied for 20th.
And now the Los Angeles Times chimes in, pointing out that Bill Handel rules the morning with a 6.7 audience share. The "decline" in overall ratings from October is a bit misleading as the station was only #1 for two months. KIIS usdually rules the roost.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/20/entertainment/la-et-arbitron-20120320
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/20/entertainment/la-et-arbitron-20120320
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I did a study of the main reasons people listen to Bill Handel in the morning:
27% like Bill Handel.
19% listen for the news and traffic.
12% like Gary Hoffmann.
9% like Rich Marrotta,
And 33% like all the commercials for Sleep Number beds and Zero Rez carpet cleaning.
27% like Bill Handel.
19% listen for the news and traffic.
12% like Gary Hoffmann.
9% like Rich Marrotta,
And 33% like all the commercials for Sleep Number beds and Zero Rez carpet cleaning.
Well, if you remember the sponsors that well you must listen regularly. Mission accomplished for brand identification advertising.
Now, have you been motivated to buy?. Oh, you rent space at the Y and they take care of cleaning the carpets? OK Sorry.
Seriously, I would hope that a blend of unique information and entertainment is a major reason why the audience listens to KFI. That would reflect its heritage,
The station began as a service to farmers who were already the founder's customers (although the "FI" didn't really mean "Farm Information" when the call letters were assigned) and carried two major farm programs daily for over thirty years. It also came to be known as a competing news source to the newspapers with the original Richfield Reporter (later migrated to the NBC Gold network, a Pacific coast subset of NBC Red), fruit frost warnings from Pomona and later KFI Calling (although station founder Earle C Anthony disapproved of acronym based slogans like " Keep Fully Informed on KFI"). Anthony saw his baby as a service first. There is a legend (unconfirmed) that he prohibited his time salesmen from even having a ratings book.
I had the privilege as a youth of wandering the corridors of the "old gray lady" on Vermont - which was what some called the KFI studios originally built for the flagship station (KEHE) of a Hearst radio network that never materialized because the boss was preoccupied with San Simeon and Marion Davies). I was in the old control rooms for the distinctly named five studios (Auditorium, Blue, Coral, Diamond and Emerald) and saw the telegraph keys which the older engineers preferred over the headsets to signal one another. The station had a flavor and camaraderie non-existent in metropolitan radio stations I've visited in later decades - I doubt if the current generation could even relate.
John Wesley and Biggie Nevins (who successor owner Cox Communications sent to take over) certainly couldn't - they literally threw out the trophies and archives, including the meticulous annual scrapbook Anthony paid a clipping service to maintain. Departing news director Ned Skaff fortunately retrieved them from a dumpster and ultimately turned them over to Pacific Pioneer Broadcasters. I doubt even he knew that the same clipping service maintained a matching set for Anthony's auto enterprises. They too survived the demise of the dealership and when I got to peruse them in the nineties were in possession of the Packard International fan club. Chuck Cecil was allowed to transcribe or take much of the record library before the balance was given to UCLA. Co-chief Engineers Headlee Blatterman and George Mason (both with the station over fifty years and sharing the title) retired and the in-house organ wound up being given to a Church.
Now, have you been motivated to buy?. Oh, you rent space at the Y and they take care of cleaning the carpets? OK Sorry.
Seriously, I would hope that a blend of unique information and entertainment is a major reason why the audience listens to KFI. That would reflect its heritage,
The station began as a service to farmers who were already the founder's customers (although the "FI" didn't really mean "Farm Information" when the call letters were assigned) and carried two major farm programs daily for over thirty years. It also came to be known as a competing news source to the newspapers with the original Richfield Reporter (later migrated to the NBC Gold network, a Pacific coast subset of NBC Red), fruit frost warnings from Pomona and later KFI Calling (although station founder Earle C Anthony disapproved of acronym based slogans like " Keep Fully Informed on KFI"). Anthony saw his baby as a service first. There is a legend (unconfirmed) that he prohibited his time salesmen from even having a ratings book.
I had the privilege as a youth of wandering the corridors of the "old gray lady" on Vermont - which was what some called the KFI studios originally built for the flagship station (KEHE) of a Hearst radio network that never materialized because the boss was preoccupied with San Simeon and Marion Davies). I was in the old control rooms for the distinctly named five studios (Auditorium, Blue, Coral, Diamond and Emerald) and saw the telegraph keys which the older engineers preferred over the headsets to signal one another. The station had a flavor and camaraderie non-existent in metropolitan radio stations I've visited in later decades - I doubt if the current generation could even relate.
John Wesley and Biggie Nevins (who successor owner Cox Communications sent to take over) certainly couldn't - they literally threw out the trophies and archives, including the meticulous annual scrapbook Anthony paid a clipping service to maintain. Departing news director Ned Skaff fortunately retrieved them from a dumpster and ultimately turned them over to Pacific Pioneer Broadcasters. I doubt even he knew that the same clipping service maintained a matching set for Anthony's auto enterprises. They too survived the demise of the dealership and when I got to peruse them in the nineties were in possession of the Packard International fan club. Chuck Cecil was allowed to transcribe or take much of the record library before the balance was given to UCLA. Co-chief Engineers Headlee Blatterman and George Mason (both with the station over fifty years and sharing the title) retired and the in-house organ wound up being given to a Church.
The LA Times article link given by Art Landing is for March 20 of 2012. So that's not current. Here's a link to Inside Radio's ratings for LA...
http://www.******************/ratings.aspx?market=3
KFI is tied for #10 on this chart with KYSR, although David says it's really #11 if you don't round out KFI and KYSR's numbers. KFI's cume is pretty bad. All the major stations have 1 million + in cume. KIIS is close to 4 million. But KFI is less than 750,000. KNX is the only AM station with at least a million listeners tuning in each week.
So was it smart to make KFI all-local in the daytime and give the syndicated Premiere/Clear Channel Talk hosts their own station in LA? Time will tell.
http://www.******************/ratings.aspx?market=3
KFI is tied for #10 on this chart with KYSR, although David says it's really #11 if you don't round out KFI and KYSR's numbers. KFI's cume is pretty bad. All the major stations have 1 million + in cume. KIIS is close to 4 million. But KFI is less than 750,000. KNX is the only AM station with at least a million listeners tuning in each week.
So was it smart to make KFI all-local in the daytime and give the syndicated Premiere/Clear Channel Talk hosts their own station in LA? Time will tell.
KFI hasn't really ever had a large cume during this multi-year run as the top LA talker - the rating is generated by TSL, which must be very large compared to the others you mentioned.
As poster "Gregg." pointed out, the L.A. Times article posted by "Art Landing" as well as the AllAccess.com ratings analysis article posted earlier in this thread are both from March 2012, not March 2014. I can see the full date stamp with year included on my browsers; yours may vary.
Unfortunately, **************** is the only website with totally "free" access to the radio ratings data.
It has been working OK for me for L.A. and other markets; your browsers/connections/routers may differ.
AllAccess.com and ****************** (via InsideRadio.com) require free membership subscriptions to see their ratings material
(an email address and password is required).
AllAccess.com ratings page for Los Angeles direct link: http://www.allaccess.com/nielsen/q/market/59/los-angeles-ca
****************** ratings page for Los Angeles direct link (from "Gregg.'s" post above): http://www.******************/ratings.aspx?market=3
Current AllAccess PPM Ratings Analysis for February 2014 (no subscription required; scroll down for Los Angeles - includes Top 5 rankings in overall, 25-54, 18-34 + 18-49 demos):
www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/127863/research-director-inc-presents-exclusive-feb-ppm-a
From Nielsen Audio (formerly Arbitron), a primer on the terminology and use of the PPM vs. the diary: http://www.arbitron.com/downloads/guide_to_using_ppm_data.pdf
Nielsen Audio also offers a link to free access to topline ratings (age 6+ overall rankings/shares), but also requires a form to be filled out per each time accessed:
http://www.arbitron.com/home/ratings.htm
Also, the data is not updated immediately on the date of release as the trade websites do at 5PM ET/2PM PT on the date of release.
2014 Survey Schedule dates (scroll down to PPM Schedule as it applies to L.A.):
http://www.arbitron.com/downloads/Survey_Schedule.pdf
Via Tom Taylor's email newsletter, ratings are made available immediately upon release - newsletter sign-up link:
http://tomtaylornow.us6.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=78b390ff9f5b002e3f050238c&id=5fb0670473
Via Tom Taylor's email newsletter, February 2014 Radio Ratings Day 1 released 3/17/2014:
http://us6.campaign-archive1.com/?u=78b390ff9f5b002e3f050238c&id=dc58109ca2
Unfortunately, **************** is the only website with totally "free" access to the radio ratings data.
It has been working OK for me for L.A. and other markets; your browsers/connections/routers may differ.
AllAccess.com and ****************** (via InsideRadio.com) require free membership subscriptions to see their ratings material
(an email address and password is required).
AllAccess.com ratings page for Los Angeles direct link: http://www.allaccess.com/nielsen/q/market/59/los-angeles-ca
****************** ratings page for Los Angeles direct link (from "Gregg.'s" post above): http://www.******************/ratings.aspx?market=3
Current AllAccess PPM Ratings Analysis for February 2014 (no subscription required; scroll down for Los Angeles - includes Top 5 rankings in overall, 25-54, 18-34 + 18-49 demos):
www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/127863/research-director-inc-presents-exclusive-feb-ppm-a
From Nielsen Audio (formerly Arbitron), a primer on the terminology and use of the PPM vs. the diary: http://www.arbitron.com/downloads/guide_to_using_ppm_data.pdf
Nielsen Audio also offers a link to free access to topline ratings (age 6+ overall rankings/shares), but also requires a form to be filled out per each time accessed:
http://www.arbitron.com/home/ratings.htm
Also, the data is not updated immediately on the date of release as the trade websites do at 5PM ET/2PM PT on the date of release.
2014 Survey Schedule dates (scroll down to PPM Schedule as it applies to L.A.):
http://www.arbitron.com/downloads/Survey_Schedule.pdf
Via Tom Taylor's email newsletter, ratings are made available immediately upon release - newsletter sign-up link:
http://tomtaylornow.us6.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=78b390ff9f5b002e3f050238c&id=5fb0670473
Via Tom Taylor's email newsletter, February 2014 Radio Ratings Day 1 released 3/17/2014:
http://us6.campaign-archive1.com/?u=78b390ff9f5b002e3f050238c&id=dc58109ca2
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