The article is all about kroq and the goins on. And they talked about the other entercom stations n la and it said insiders were saying there are talks of flipping amp to sports? Does anyone think there is any truth to this or just a rumor?
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I just read an article n variety n is there any truth to the rumor amp goin sports
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Here's a link to the article:
https://variety.com/2020/music/news/kroq-kevin-bean-music-ratings-post-malone-1234609654/
It's a pretty good article, and says a lot of the same things we've said. The station had grown lazy, fat, and stale. Thankfully they're playing new music.
As for AMP going sports, I'd suggest the timing isn't too good, considering there's no live sports right now. It's an expensive format to run, but if they can get some listeners, it can make money even with moderate ratings. A lot of the AMP stations are in trouble around the country.
https://variety.com/2020/music/news/kroq-kevin-bean-music-ratings-post-malone-1234609654/
It's a pretty good article, and says a lot of the same things we've said. The station had grown lazy, fat, and stale. Thankfully they're playing new music.
As for AMP going sports, I'd suggest the timing isn't too good, considering there's no live sports right now. It's an expensive format to run, but if they can get some listeners, it can make money even with moderate ratings. A lot of the AMP stations are in trouble around the country.
In a word, no.
Or maybe even Entercom can even consider an FM Hot Talk format on 97.1? 
Another weakness for both KROQ and KAMP: mornings. I don't think KAMP has been able to put light up a candle against KIIS, KRRL, KPWR or KBIG in mornings since Carson Daly departed. KYSR has edged out KROQ in mornings for years. I think that will be critical to rebuilding both stations.
Another weakness for both KROQ and KAMP: mornings. I don't think KAMP has been able to put light up a candle against KIIS, KRRL, KPWR or KBIG in mornings since Carson Daly departed. KYSR has edged out KROQ in mornings for years. I think that will be critical to rebuilding both stations.
Once sports are back in full swing, I actually think flipping 97.1 to Sports would be a great idea. Recall that there were rumors of Entercom flipping 100.3 The Sound to Sports prior to the Entercom / CBS Radio merger.
CBS Sports Radio programming is largely garbage, though. It's a filler format designed for small market stations and impaired signals in bigger cities.
CBS Sports Radio programming is largely garbage, though. It's a filler format designed for small market stations and impaired signals in bigger cities.
The play by play commitments are rather solidly held by other stations. In several cases, the teams buy the time so the station does not even sell... they just get the benefit of being the station where the team "lives".
And because such a huge percentage of the market does not consider baseball, American football or basketball to be their favorite sport, there is a smaller core for the format overall.
I do agree that play-by-play rights for a well followed local team would be essential for such a station to have a decent chance of success.
They would need the Lakers, Dodgers, Rams, Chargers or Clippers to be viable. The Angels, the hockey teams, UCLA or USC wouldn't be enough to make any sort of splash.
They would need the Lakers, Dodgers, Rams, Chargers or Clippers to be viable. The Angels, the hockey teams, UCLA or USC wouldn't be enough to make any sort of splash.
USC signed a long-term deal with KABC last year, presumably so that no one beyond a 10 mile radius of the campus can be disappointed by the team's performance.
Are there really more Chargers fans than Angels fans in LA? I know the baseball team is out in Orange County, but still ...
To me, it's Lakers and Dodgers. That's it. And I love The Kings, but nobody else cares.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLAA_(AM)
The Angels already own a station. Granted its AM but unless they felt the need to be on FM I don't see them showing any real interest in moving.
The Angels already own a station. Granted its AM but unless they felt the need to be on FM I don't see them showing any real interest in moving.
Orange County is hardly "Out". The population of the county is predominantly located in the northern third, contiguous with LA County. In fact, Santa Clarita in Santa Clarita towards the north of LA County is farther from downtown than Santa Ana, in Orange County.
And the team renamed some years back to the Los Angeles Angels, particularly since "Angeles" means "Angels". It was only named the Anaheim Angles for a short period as a condition of city financing of stadium improvements. For most of the last 122 years, it has played in LA county as, first, a minor league team and then as an expansion team.
That is sort of like saying Disneyland is "out in Orange County" as if it were somewhere in the rural California desert.
They started out as the Los Angeles Angels (an expansion team, unrelated to the minor-league Los Angeles Angels that operated until the Dodgers came west in 1958) in 1961 and played in the city itself for five seasons before moving out to ... I mean moving to Anaheim and becoming the California Angels. That was the team's name for the longest period in its history to date.
So, now that all that history is taken care of, does the team have a bigger fan base in Los Angeles -- city, county and northern part of Orange -- than the NFL's Chargers, who only came back to L.A. a couple of years ago after more than 50 years in San Diego? That implication was, as you recall, why I made my original post in the first place.
If you plead the Fifth in the form of "I don't follow the game most Anglo-Americans call football, which is violent and boring compared to the REAL football, the Beautiful Game, etc., etc.," then could someone else familiar with NFL market share answer the question?
Gene Autry bought the Angels name for a baseball team which had been in use locally since 1898 as a training team, later called minor leagues.
The whole area of the San Gabriel Valley, Long Beach and other cities in Southern LA county are more aligned with the Angels than with the Central LA area. All the people I know in that area who are baseball fans are Angels fans.
I've followed baseball in LA a lot, going back to when I programmed KWKW in the 70's, and broadcast Winter League while in Puerto Rico (frightening, as the stadiums had no more people in them at times than they will today with the Coronavirus). But football, not a "native" sport anywhere in Latin America, is at a disadvantage in communities that are approaching 50% Hispanic among younger adults such as the LA metro.
KLAA has a good night signal along the coast. It's a hodge podge of sports programming, carrying some ESPN programming during the day (sometimes duplicating KSPN, which is owned by Disney). The station also carries some CBS Sports Radio programming and some Westwood One NFL games (when they don't conflict with Anaheim Ducks games). In other words, any programming an FM sports station would want is either on KSPN or KLAA.
However, a deal could be made with the team to have an FM affiliate. The Braves have that kind of deal in Atlanta. The fact that KLAA is owned by the team makes it possible, since radio isn't their core business. A rights fee is a more dependable way of making money than owning a radio station. So I don't see it as completely out of the question.
When the Dodgers first moved west in 1958, Gene Autry's KMPC had the Dodger's radio rights, but the Dodgers moved to the blowtorch that is KFI in 1960. Autry wanted to replace the lost programming. He went to the 1960 Baseball "Winter Meetings" in the hope of getting broadcast rights to one of the expansion teams the league had approved. His presentation to the league was so impressive, the owners asked him to actually buy one of the teams. That is how the "LA Angels" was born.
Shouldn't that disadvantage be shrinking with each succeeding generation of Angelenos? After all, baseball (or the bat-and-ball games like rounders and cricket from which it was derived) was not "native" in Europe outside the British Isles, yet immigrants from all over the continent came here, saw people already here for generations playing and watching the game, and became players and fans themselves. My father's parents came from Ukraine in the '20s. By the time he was 12, he was playing stickball in the streets of Brooklyn. His family then moved to the Boston area, where he'd go to Braves games. He would also play in pick-up football (not soccer; that was for his parents' generation) games. The children of Russian and Polish and Italian parents in his neighborhoods were doing the same thing, not ignoring or failing to understand the appeal of American games. These were first-generation children and baseball was just as foreign to their parents as our football was to theirs. So how do you explain current Hispanic resistance to American football in cities that have had multiple generations of Hispanics grow up and live in them? Is this just some sort of odd psychological hard-wiring, like the preference for rhythmic over melodic music?
Rhythmic music is not the ancestral preference of the vast majority of Mexican heritage persons in the Southwest; the preferred music forms on Mexican radio for the last 50 to 60 years have predominantly been ranchera, norteña, banda and ballad / pop / mainstream rock genres. The rhythmic formats such as tropical have been limited niche formats, even in the cities that are on the edge of the Caribbean Basin such as Veracruz and Tampico and Villahermosa.
The move to rhythmic music, whether it be hip hop or Spanish language reggaeton, has been acquired here... just as some have acquired a taste for American style football.
Keep in mind that there are no universal forms of music or music preferences in any nation in Latin America. But as far as the unique music forms that differentiate between Caribbean nations and Mexico (as one example) much of the difference has to do with origins: Mexico has a huge Native American heritage, while in the Caribbean the Hispanic population has an Afro-Caribbean influence.
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