Come on NYC! The radio market has dropped country, adult hits, smooth jazz, hard rock, and now mainstream CHR. Those are popular formats in other areas! Spanish and urban dominate the dial here, both of those kinds of stations I cannot stand. 10 mins and I wouldn't want to hear it anymore. People don't know what good music is here.
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I really don't like how radio is turning out in this big market
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icycool7227 said:
What "good music" is depends on who you ask. Apparently, most people in NY seem to prefer the likes of Z100 and Lite FM and Hot 97...can't argue with that success, like it or not.
As for country, you're making this sound like some sort of recent development. It was dropped over 13 years ago, and wasn't exactly setting the world on fire back then, just as "hard rock" (or, more accurately, the approximation of it which aired on 92.3) failed as well.
I'm curious though as to what "adult hits" station failed? Jack? What do you consider a station like CBS-FM (with all the 80s they now play)? Jack did do better than K-Rock and RXP and was on the way up. And when did the market drop mainstream CHR? Are you talking about the demise of Musicradio 77? ???
NYC radio will never be the same as during the 66 wNNNNbc, 77 WABC and 570 WMCA Good Guys days! Radio and a vibrant personality with dj's that original thoughts with creative license to express them over the air.
From 1987 to now has changes drastically. After morning drive nothing but liner readers who are numb from the neck up, who couldn't come up with an on the spot original thought if their live's depended on it.
Big market radio is like an airplane in a vertical out of control nose dive! :
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From 1987 to now has changes drastically. After morning drive nothing but liner readers who are numb from the neck up, who couldn't come up with an on the spot original thought if their live's depended on it.
Big market radio is like an airplane in a vertical out of control nose dive! :
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Why are you saying "good music is here"? Didn't you say on another board you live in Wisconsin? Have you ever been to NYC? Doubt it.
videokilledtheradiostar said:NYC radio will never be the same as during the 66 wNNNNbc, 77 WABC and 570 WMCA Good Guys days! Radio and a vibrant personality with dj's that original thoughts with creative license to express them over the air.
From 1987 to now has changes drastically. After morning drive nothing but liner readers who are numb from the neck up, who couldn't come up with an on the spot original thought if their live's depended on it.
Big market radio is like an airplane in a vertical out of control nose dive! :
And here we go with the oh-so-tired "Things were so much better back in the day, maaaaaaaan" argument.
radio po boy said:
No I haven't (want to though) but I have seen all changes here. Country is indeed a very popular format in other cities. Take Sioux Falls, SD for example. You'll find a hard rock and adult hits station in every other city and well smooth jazz is failing so I can't speak volumes for that but there's also mainstream CHR everywhere else too. I think if I ever was in NYC I just wouldn't listen to the radio.
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icycool7227 said:
Uh...yeah.
Also note the 2008 election stats:
First, NYC
Bronx--Obama 300,327 88%; McCain 38,560 12%
Brooklyn--Obama 545,785 79% McCain 139,594 20%
Manhattan--Obama 490,634 85%; McCain 79,448 14%
Queens--Obama 436,398 75%; McCain 144,362 25%
Staten Island--Obama 73,192 47%; McCain 80,853 52%
Total: Obama 1,846,336 79%; McCain 482,817 21%
Second, the Sioux Falls Census Metropolitan Area
Lincoln--McCain 11,803 57%; Obama 8,642 42%
McCook--McCain 1,646 56%; Obama 1,219 41%
Minnehaha--McCain 39,241 49%; Obama 39,831 49%
Turner--McCain 2,538 58%; Obama 1,681 39%
Total: McCain 55,228 51%; Obama 51,373 47%
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NHRadio said:
Or, for that matter, a few years of big city experience--period. Regardless of radio--indeed, you might find that in the heart of Manhattan, people increasingly have better things to do in their lives than obsess over radio the way they might have in the 70s, or the way that dumb hicks and rubes in Wisconsin might do today...
icycool7227 said:
Actually the top of the NY radio world is presently a CHR (Z100), but why wouldn't Spanish and Urban stations be popular? More than 27% of the market speaks a language other than English, and spanish is the dominate "other" language; and I don't think it gets more urban in America than in and around NYC with it's 20-million people, so it makes sense that an urban format would be popular as well. Four of the City's Five Boroughs have significantly more people than the whole state of South Dakota, with only Staten Island smaller, slightly.
neo11 said:icycool7227 said:
Sioux Falls, SD? LOL!
And who said there's no mainstream CHR in NYC? I guess you've never heard of Z100. Oh well...I guess news doesn't travel too fast up in them parts.
I read on another thread here on this very board that Z-100 is becoming more rhythmic. I'll find and reference the exact thread if you want.
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