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I would ask "what are the strongest independents?" but are there any left?

Re: I would ask "what are the strongest independents?" but are there any left?

milwaukee_dave said:
Dave, you are correct about WDJT, pre-CBS. As an independent station, Channel 58 was an after-thought in the Milwaukee TV market. It had a weak signal and an equally weak program line-up. Even as a TV novice at the time, I could tell the station was struggling in the ratings because the schedule would be changed constantly! I still have old tapes of early WDJT programming, and their equipment also was primitive, to say the least.

Interestingly, WDJT has been owned by Weigel since its launch in the late 1980s. For a TV nerd like myself, I actually enjoyed the station's early scrappy years -- lots of hard-to-find TV shows were programmed, and the technical glitches made viewing interesting.

I think it's safe to say they wanted to affiliate with CBS -- heck, they were already picking up a bunch of shows that WITI had passed on. WDJT was notorious for picking up all the scraps from Milwaukee's ABC, CBS and NBC affiliates. (I remember, for instance, watching those campy "Crime Time After Prime Time" dramas on WDJT in the early 1990s, and they were a part of CBS' late night line-up at that time.)

WDJT's fortunes began to change drastically when they affiliated with CBS. The network, incidentally, did knock on the doors of every other full-power, commercial station at the time. With just days to go before the WITI switch, WDJT was named the new affiliate. In fact, I remember my print TV Guide in December 1994 not reflecting the WDJT affiliation because it was so eleventh-hour.

Weigel may have been more of an after-thought in Milwaukee two decades ago. But these days, I think it's safe to say the company has been very kind to the city with its array of programming on multiple channels.

Weigel's success is based on the hiring of programming/promotional genius Neal Sabin from Chicago's WPWR in 1994. He really has a great track record at turning around low-budget operations.
 
Re: I would ask "what are the strongest independents?" but are there any left?

Houston now has two English language independent stations, KTBU --55 and KUBE-57 (which recently flipped from Spanish VasalloVision, previously Spanish TuVision, and before that Azteca America).
 
Re: I would ask "what are the strongest independents?" but are there any left?

Weigel's success is based on the hiring of programming/promotional genius Neal Sabin from Chicago's WPWR in 1994. He really has a great track record at turning around low-budget operations.
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That's an interesting point, Eric, that I had never thought of. It's been obvious to me that as an overall company, Weigel has shown improvement in the past 15-plus years, based on the programming changes and on-air appearance of the stations it owns in Milwaukee. I've known about Sabin's role with the company, but didn't know when he joined or that he hailed from WPWR. I always had a lot of respect for that station before it was gobbled up by FOX. In the early 1990s, I considered myself fortunate when I could get "Power 50" over-the-air with my rabbit ears because the station was fairly innovative as a true independent (in terms of affiliation and ownership).
 
Re: I would ask "what are the strongest independents?" but are there any left?

Surprised no one has mentioned Jacksonville's WJXT...a legacy CBS affiliate who did the unthinkable: dump & go indy.

They probably have the strongest in-house (and not shared) news operation of any indy the the nation.

G
 
Re: I would ask "what are the strongest independents?" but are there any left?

I think in Southern California KDOC has filled the void left by the former "L.A. four indies" of KTLA, KHJ/KCAL, KTTV and KCOP.

I see KCAL more as an extension of KCBS.
 
Re: I would ask "what are the strongest independents?" but are there any left?

upstate29651 said:
Surprised no one has mentioned Jacksonville's WJXT...a legacy CBS affiliate who did the unthinkable: dump & go indy.

They probably have the strongest in-house (and not shared) news operation of any indy the the nation.

G

...as well as the only stand-alone, non-duopoly news operation in that market, going up against First Coast News (WTLV 12/WJXX 25) and Action News (WAWS 30/WTEV 47)
 
Re: I would ask "what are the strongest independents?" but are there any left?

emailfailed said:
I think in Southern California KDOC has filled the void left by the former "L.A. four indies" of KTLA, KHJ/KCAL, KTTV and KCOP.

I see KCAL more as an extension of KCBS.

...and, in the same vein, KCOP is pretty much an extension of KTTV. I said here weeks ago that Fox is pretty much better off turning in KCOP's license back to the FCC, and shift its programming to KTTV's secondary subchannel. KCOP, at one point, was a very good indie (in my opinion), but it's the bastardized stepchild to Channel 11.

I have to agree with KDOC...although about half of their daily schedule contains shows already elsewhere in town, they've improved a lot since the change in ownership about five years ago. I also like that they're gradually adding more general entertainment on weekends, instead of wall-to-wall infomercials.
 
Re: I would ask "what are the strongest independents?" but are there any left?

ShawnHill1 said:
...and, in the same vein, KCOP is pretty much an extension of KTTV. I said here weeks ago that Fox is pretty much better off turning in KCOP's license back to the FCC, and shift its programming to KTTV's secondary subchannel. KCOP, at one point, was a very good indie (in my opinion), but it's the bastardized stepchild to Channel 11.

KUTP Phoenix & WPWR Chicago come to mind immediately as stations that are merely extensions of the Fox O&Os in their respective markets. Suns games and being a UHF station that puts "parent" KSAZ on their SD subchannel (as 10.2, not 45.2) are the only real reasons for KUTP to exist anymore.
 
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