If a song plays on HD Radio does anyone hear it? No. No one in the general public even knows, or even cares about HD radio. If I-Biqiuty smashes the price of an HD radio with I tagging, does that mean people are going to rush out to buy a monolithic receiving device to wait for a song to play on an FM sub channel, to tag it so that they can trigger their home computer to down load it on to their I-pod/I-phone, which they left at home? No. No one in the general public even knows, or even cares about HD radio. If I-Biquity gives away HD radios for free, will anyone hear it? No. No one in the general public even knows, or even cares about HD radio. If a tree falls in the forest, and it's broadcast over HD radio, does anyone hear it?
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If a tree falls in the forest, does anyone listening to HD Radio hear it?
- Thread starter qtpieislit
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I like those ads for HD radio that sound like psychological advice for adolescents, but it's about HD radios.
The worst ad I heard for HD radio is "my HD radio creeps me out, it knows what song I like and downloads it to my iPod. i hope my other electronic devices don't communicate with each other. my shower has seen me naked." Who would rush out and buy an HD radio after hearing an ad like that?
Many stores that sell HD radios don't have reception of the HD stations, even if the store is in the same city as the HD station. How would people be able to try it out before buying?
The worst ad I heard for HD radio is "my HD radio creeps me out, it knows what song I like and downloads it to my iPod. i hope my other electronic devices don't communicate with each other. my shower has seen me naked." Who would rush out and buy an HD radio after hearing an ad like that?
Many stores that sell HD radios don't have reception of the HD stations, even if the store is in the same city as the HD station. How would people be able to try it out before buying?
Misleading USA Today headline:
"HD Radio sends strong signal, but audience weak"
That is not true. Their signal is not strong at all...
"HD Radio sends strong signal, but audience weak"
That is not true. Their signal is not strong at all...
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Ed101
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They hear it 8 seconds later.
Ed101 said:
Good one!
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eyg2181
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maybe i would buy an hd radio if the HD channels had better signals of just as good of signals as the analog channels.
I share your frustrations. For all the time I spend in electronics stores, I'd have to blame the merchants. They're displaying the radios, but they are not selling them. I tried to tune in an HD station on a Sony table radio, and I could not get any signal, digital or analog. You'd think the least they would do is find a decent antenna, and sell that too. But the stores aren't even selling HD Radio antennas, except online.
One night, I was sitting in the lobby of WRCV-TV when it was at 1619 Walnut Street, waiting for my father to call it a day. It was the first time I had ever seen color television. Chances are that was true for a lot of people who sat in that lobby in the late 50s or early 60s. It's one way RCA, NBC's parent company, sold a lot of color sets. NBC was a year or two away from becoming "The Full Color Network." I tip my hat to General David Sarnoff, who was not only a great broadcast pioneer, but also one shrewd salesman. Now, as I enter the lobby of KYW-TV at 1555 Hamilton each workday, I see no less than 4 HD monitors on the way to the newsroom.
Next year, HD Radios will become standard in many cars[I had an aftermarket HD Radio in my new Ford Fusion installed after trying to explain HD Radio to the dealer. That was more painful than picking the car]. We now have a golden opporunity to re-sell HD Radio to the public. It's up to the broadcasters to sell HD Radio, just like General Sarnoff sold color TV a few decades ago.
One night, I was sitting in the lobby of WRCV-TV when it was at 1619 Walnut Street, waiting for my father to call it a day. It was the first time I had ever seen color television. Chances are that was true for a lot of people who sat in that lobby in the late 50s or early 60s. It's one way RCA, NBC's parent company, sold a lot of color sets. NBC was a year or two away from becoming "The Full Color Network." I tip my hat to General David Sarnoff, who was not only a great broadcast pioneer, but also one shrewd salesman. Now, as I enter the lobby of KYW-TV at 1555 Hamilton each workday, I see no less than 4 HD monitors on the way to the newsroom.
Next year, HD Radios will become standard in many cars[I had an aftermarket HD Radio in my new Ford Fusion installed after trying to explain HD Radio to the dealer. That was more painful than picking the car]. We now have a golden opporunity to re-sell HD Radio to the public. It's up to the broadcasters to sell HD Radio, just like General Sarnoff sold color TV a few decades ago.
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ccuphl
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Sam Lit said:
If you compare analog TV with high def TV, the difference is absolutely incredible. And if you have no idea what digital TV is or how it works, if you walk into Best Buy you will find yourself surrounded by 40", 50", and 60" flat screen TVs with mind-blowing detail and amazing sound (and 5 or 6 partially-educated employees walking around as if they were assigned to just that department - except when you need one). Even if you have no intention of buying a HDTV, you'll stand there watching it, wishing you had room for that 102" TV in your living room.
And then there's HD radio.
You've heard all of those, um, "ads" on the radio and you walk into Best Buy. If you can actually find them, you are already ahead of the game (they're normally past the large display for XM and Sirius). Great, you found 'em! But you can't actually get any of the HD stations on the HD radio. Confused, you try to find an employee to ask a question to but there's no one working in that area (again, past the XM display between the radar detectors and the pressed wood furniture) unless you are buying $700 worth of car speakers. Sad.
Now what? You go look at the TV's.
98.1-2 playing all the 70s music I can stand is a really bad way to sell people on HD radio. Playing 80s music on 101.1-2..................................................... (sorry, 8 second delay) won't get people to buy a $99 radio. All of the techies (i.e. the 18 to 34 crowd, especially the college kids) have gone to either satellite and/or Ipods and/or internet streams. There's no one around to show-off HD radio to their friends!
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wsprradio
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One can say the same about you're internet station Sam. If a tree falls in the forest, does anyone listening to Hy Lit radio hear it?
http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,103262.10.htmlwsprradio said:
How nice of you to ask.
*All HyLit.com destinations collective, 4-month statistical data (cumulative).
Month Page Views Unique Visits
March, 2008 12,678,248 913,022
April, 2008 16,174,131 976,251
May, 2008 18,200,703 1,071,780
June, 2008 18,374,410 995,987
Total(s) 65,427,492 3,957,040
Avg. Time spent listening minutes 212 (3.53 hrs)
Hy Lit Radio Technologies Inc., is a software designs group specializing in emerging technologies, and advanced digital delivery systems. The sophistication of our *patent pending software engines, determine, among other things, the point of origin of the network locations of our listeners. Therefore, going beyond the raw numbers, our prime daytime visitors, and listening patterns, are a most fascinating assimilation of major corporations that visit and listen at work. If you like, I will post the top 500 for the month of June, and completely rock your boat.
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wsprradio
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Sooooooo what ,Sam. Now let's do the math for each city and state. For the internet that is world wide, what was the percentage of the 18.000 that came from philly?see my point, Sam. I'm on an internet station too. we also had over 15.000 people log on. But it's world wide.Sooooo what. When you do the math for listeners in the U.S.A, state by state and city by city, it's not much buddy.
wsprradio said:
I wouldn’t let it bother you. Stop pulling on it, and it’ll grow.
The more serious question and in total defense of Sam is this:
Is "real" radio -- you know, the one's with those expensive towers, arrays, tall sticks and various transmitters growing? It seems like plenty of people around don't hear them when they fall, that's a certain.
Why?
Because I haven't seen a station, format, platform ... you name it ... that has "grown a new audience" in years.
But I've seen plenty fall like trees in the forest.
The reason, however, is not about trees falling silently.
They are burning, like the business model of so called traditional radio is ... and quickly.
There is, in effect, little to hear falling ... as the current "traditional" model of terrestrial died.
At least Sam's gasp is worldwide ... I listen here in California, for instance.
Because the tradition small, medium and large market "radio model" is quietly falling ... as it burns up due to starvation, lack of growth (audiences haven't grown for radio in years,) and oxygen ... corporate hot air ... ignites it into a failing business model that is failing day by day.
Take HD Radio for example ... please.
Hy Lit Radio, The Cockroach Internet Radio in New York and so many others who reach for that "new" cume like Paradise Radio and many, many others are already building the fireproofing for their stations ... while the dry timber of "old way" radio continue to become mere kindling.
The pine needles dampen the sound of the fall. That's why no one hears it anymore. They've moved the forest for the trees ... and gone on to other things ... that grow.
Keep on Sam.
Sprinkle more of that ground system out this way. We sorely need it as the traditional forest ignites into mass nothingness. Life goes on ... and is moving on ... in your direction.
Ask Citadel ... at, for it's second day ... at $.89 cents a share. Regency at $.75 cents a share...and the market hasn't closed today, yet ... for the second day of this napalming.
Think people are hearing the fall? Only the investors. Listeners packed up and left their two, three and four shares a long time ago.
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
Is "real" radio -- you know, the one's with those expensive towers, arrays, tall sticks and various transmitters growing? It seems like plenty of people around don't hear them when they fall, that's a certain.
Why?
Because I haven't seen a station, format, platform ... you name it ... that has "grown a new audience" in years.
But I've seen plenty fall like trees in the forest.
The reason, however, is not about trees falling silently.
They are burning, like the business model of so called traditional radio is ... and quickly.
There is, in effect, little to hear falling ... as the current "traditional" model of terrestrial died.
At least Sam's gasp is worldwide ... I listen here in California, for instance.
Because the tradition small, medium and large market "radio model" is quietly falling ... as it burns up due to starvation, lack of growth (audiences haven't grown for radio in years,) and oxygen ... corporate hot air ... ignites it into a failing business model that is failing day by day.
Take HD Radio for example ... please.
Hy Lit Radio, The Cockroach Internet Radio in New York and so many others who reach for that "new" cume like Paradise Radio and many, many others are already building the fireproofing for their stations ... while the dry timber of "old way" radio continue to become mere kindling.
The pine needles dampen the sound of the fall. That's why no one hears it anymore. They've moved the forest for the trees ... and gone on to other things ... that grow.
Keep on Sam.
Sprinkle more of that ground system out this way. We sorely need it as the traditional forest ignites into mass nothingness. Life goes on ... and is moving on ... in your direction.
Ask Citadel ... at, for it's second day ... at $.89 cents a share. Regency at $.75 cents a share...and the market hasn't closed today, yet ... for the second day of this napalming.
Think people are hearing the fall? Only the investors. Listeners packed up and left their two, three and four shares a long time ago.
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
Wow Oak! That’s positively touching, and rather, poetic. I think I even feel a little tear of joy. Y'know, you’re right, the putrid forest of the big timber of the radio goliaths are falling. But even more important, on behalf of Hy, we have worked so hard, so diligently, day after day, designing, perfecting, building and creating a company that has the dynamics that are exciting, and advanced and appealing, and portable, and interfaceable in your life. And once you find us on the internet, you found a new destination, that you can take with you wherever you go, that makes you feel right at home, wherever you are. Y’know, we’re at the gateway to our journey, and the funny thing is, I’m just backing up to get a running start, ‘cause what I’m building, there is no blue print. Then I'm going to share it with the world.
Thank you, Sam ... and continued best wishes.
Correction: Make that Citadel, in the final 10 seconds of trading, down a plug nickel to $.83 a share.
Yeah, there's your business model for ya.
I got your business model alright, radio. They aren't growing audiences like they used to on the old AM & FM ...
Ask Farid Suleman and his unmerry band of investors after today's bloodbath. Regency Broadcasting, too. And CBS, and Emmis, and Cumulus isn't doing so hot, and the screams you hear from San Antonio are saying "CLOSE THE DEAL NOW, DAMN IT!" and heavenward, that's Mel Karmazin pounding his shoes, both of them, on the desk and screaming, "What the hell does one have to do to merge two nearly bankrupt companies, for gosh sakes?"
Join us Monday when Citadel unveils the "Scott Shannon True Oldies Nation" and the "Platinum" format everywhere it can get it.
If Citadel made heads roll in February at a buck a share ... what do you think it will do, now, at $.83 a share? Sit back and say, "Just hang on ... this too shall pass?"
A very few short months ago, weeks, actually, a very shrewd and wise man named Holland Cooke said here, "In at two, out at three" speaking about Citadel. That was then, this is now. And Citadel stock is in the toilet at $.83 a share.
And you like what flavor Kool-Aid?
Correction: Make that Citadel, in the final 10 seconds of trading, down a plug nickel to $.83 a share.
Yeah, there's your business model for ya.
I got your business model alright, radio. They aren't growing audiences like they used to on the old AM & FM ...
Ask Farid Suleman and his unmerry band of investors after today's bloodbath. Regency Broadcasting, too. And CBS, and Emmis, and Cumulus isn't doing so hot, and the screams you hear from San Antonio are saying "CLOSE THE DEAL NOW, DAMN IT!" and heavenward, that's Mel Karmazin pounding his shoes, both of them, on the desk and screaming, "What the hell does one have to do to merge two nearly bankrupt companies, for gosh sakes?"
Join us Monday when Citadel unveils the "Scott Shannon True Oldies Nation" and the "Platinum" format everywhere it can get it.
If Citadel made heads roll in February at a buck a share ... what do you think it will do, now, at $.83 a share? Sit back and say, "Just hang on ... this too shall pass?"
A very few short months ago, weeks, actually, a very shrewd and wise man named Holland Cooke said here, "In at two, out at three" speaking about Citadel. That was then, this is now. And Citadel stock is in the toilet at $.83 a share.
And you like what flavor Kool-Aid?
wsprradio said:
Who cares? When did an internet radio station depend on the city or town you transmit from. That's great when you can inherit an audience that size from no matter where they are listening. That's why it's called the internet. Not the localnet, nationnet etc...
I wouldn't aim for advertisers from the same town that would contain the local dry cleaners, luncheonette, drug store etc...my worldwide, national or local listeners couldn't care less. They just want the best internet station they can find and listen to everyday.
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