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If you could see one more full day of any tv or cable station from any era

GREAT question!

3. Any DuMont station.

2. Any day from KFIZ, Fond du Lac, Wis. (late 1960s, channel 34). I saw it, but it sure came in fuzzy. Love to see it in the clear.

1. One of the first days of WLRE (now WGBA) Channel 26 in Green Bay. I vaguely remember they were scheduled to show a local college basketball game, and when the time came, all you saw was the scoreboard changing and crowd noise. No action, no announcers. I just want to see if that really happened or I was hallucinating.
 
> WXIA/11 Atlanta from the time it started calling itself
> 11 Alive in 1976 to the end of its ABC affiliation in
> 1980.


WPIX-11 New York called itself 11 Alive when I was attending Kutztown University from 1979 to 1984 when I graduated. WPIX was an indie at the time, as was WOR-9 (not yet WWOR) which moved its COL from NYC to Secaucus, NJ during my days at "the other KU" (sorry Jayhawk fans :) ). Both WPIX and WOR were carried on the cable franchise serving Kutztown, as were the Philadelphia stations, WTVE-51 Reading, and WFMZ-69 Allentown.

I'd watch Dance Fever on Saturday nights at 7 on WPIX, then watch it again immediately afterwards on WCAU-10 Philadelphia.

ixnay
 
KTTV Los Angeles, pre-Fox. I never saw that station before the Fox era, so I'm curious to know what they were like back then.

The other would have to be KPIX San Francisco, early 80s. KPIX was very obviously a Westinghouse station, but they also had a very San Francisco feel.
I remember whenever Joel Bartlett would read the temperatures, a "ding-ding" sound would accompany them coming up on the weather map. And no local news anchor, I mean none, beats Dave McElhatton.

My only beef with KPIX back in those days is they didn't show The Price Is Right
(People Are Talking was in that slot).
 
> > WXIA/11 Atlanta from the time it started calling itself
> > 11 Alive in 1976 to the end of its ABC affiliation in
> > 1980.
>
>
> WPIX-11 New York called itself 11 Alive when I was attending
> Kutztown University from 1979 to 1984 when I graduated.
> WPIX was an indie at the time, as was WOR-9 (not yet WWOR)
> which moved its COL from NYC to Secaucus, NJ during my days
> at "the other KU" (sorry Jayhawk fans :) ). Both WPIX and
> WOR were carried on the cable franchise serving Kutztown, as
> were the Philadelphia stations, WTVE-51 Reading, and WFMZ-69
> Allentown.
>
>
>
> ixnay
>
WPXI/11 Pittsburgh also called itself 11 Alive; the folks
at WXIA used to laugh about this, since WPXI is a sister
station to WXIA's archrival WSB/2.

Combined Communications (bought by Gannett in '79) used
Alive in the IDs of four of its stations; besides WXIA,
they were: KOCO/5 Alive Oklahoma City, WPTA/21 Alive
Ft. Wayne, IN, WLKY/32 Alive Louisville.
 
KPIX and network preemptions

> My only beef with KPIX back in those days is they didn't
> show The Price Is Right
> (People Are Talking was in that slot).

KTZO/20 did clear TPIR for a while, though.

I have a TV Guide from the week of August 6, 1983 and it shows KTZO with an in-pattern clearance of TPIR (along with KXTV/10 Sacramento and KMST/46 Monterey) while KPIX did indeed carry People Are Talking.

KTZO also carried CBS News from 6:00-7:00am, while KPIX was doing its own newscast followed by Morning Stretch, as well as CBS News Nightwatch from 2:00-6:00am, while KPIX showed movies. (KTZO ran their late movie from 10:00 to midnight, counterprogramming both the 10:00 newscasts on KTVU/2, KICU/36, KTXL/40, and KFTY/50 and the 11:00 newscasts on the network affiliates.)

In 1987 (week of May 2), KOFY -- having changed call letters in the interim -- was carrying The $25,000 Pyramid and (from NBC) Classic Concentration -- both in-pattern -- while KPIX ran Hour Magazine from 9:00-10:00am. KOFY delayed Card Sharks to 10:00am (which was the other half of the hour KPIX pre-empted). KPIX was still pre-empting TPIR at 10:00 with People Are Talking, but KOFY didn't clear it for some reason. It seems to me that they could have continued clearing TPIR by either carrying Card Sharks in-pattern at 9:30 and delaying Classic Concentration to 11:30am (when KRON was not carrying network programming, unless NBC refused to allow a delayed broadcast), or by delaying Card Sharks to noon (when KPIX was not carrying network programming).

Edit: I later discovered that in 1987, KPIX was carrying TPIR on a tape delay at 3:00. Never mind my "KOFY could have" stuff above, unless you like playing "what if" games.

KOFY had also stopped clearing CBS News overnight by 1987, but KPIX still wasn't carrying it either (still more ancient movies instead). KOFY was off the air from 2:00-6:00am (and had stopped running its 10:00 to midnight movie).

They did, however, carry the NBA Playoffs from CBS on May 2 when KPIX had a Oakland A's game instead. KPIX did carry the Sunday NBA Playoffs.<P ID="signature">______________


</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by KMRichards on 02/26/06 02:40 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: KPIX and network preemptions

Channel 20 did indeed clear The Price Is Right for many years.

It's just strange to me to be a CBS affiliate and not carry TPIR, it's like being an NBC affiliate and not clearing Johnny Carson (Milwaukee and Baltimore used to do that). I do know People Are Talking always won that time slot. Maybe TPIR wasn't yet the cult classic in the early 80s as it is now.
 
For a broadcast station-
I'd like to see one more full day of WOR-9 (before it became WWOR) from the early-to-mid 80s. Shows like "Ironsides", "The Saint", great coverage of Mets games, just an all-around good tv station (wish I could remember their weather guy's name, he was a real character)...

For a cable network-
Has to be the early Nick At Nite with shows like "Donna Reed", "Mr. Ed", "My Three Sons" and the movie that ran every morning around..what, 2, 3 a.m. ?

Great thread, btw.
 
Re: KPIX and network preemptions

> Channel 20 did indeed clear The Price Is Right for many
> years.
>
> It's just strange to me to be a CBS affiliate and not
> carry TPIR, it's like being an NBC affiliate and not
> clearing Johnny Carson (Milwaukee and Baltimore used to do
> that). I do know People Are Talking always won that time
> slot. Maybe TPIR wasn't yet the cult classic in the early
> 80s as it is now.
>
But didn't the Group W stations have to carry an hour of local
programming each day? I remember KDKA pre-empting As The World
Turns in favor of Pittsburgh 2 Day, and WBZ (when it was an NBC
affiliate) turning down NBC's 12:30 programs in favor of the
Boston version of People Are Talking.

You would think, however, that KPIX would have pre-empted CBS's
9-10 AM (PT) game shows, because TPIR was an anchor of CBS daytime
even in the '80s.
 
Re: KPIX and network preemptions

> >
> But didn't the Group W stations have to carry an hour of
> local
> programming each day? I remember KDKA pre-empting As The
> World
> Turns in favor of Pittsburgh 2 Day, and WBZ (when it was an
> NBC
> affiliate) turning down NBC's 12:30 programs in favor of the
>
> Boston version of People Are Talking.
>
> You would think, however, that KPIX would have pre-empted
> CBS's
> 9-10 AM (PT) game shows, because TPIR was an anchor of CBS
> daytime
> even in the '80s.
>

They probably did. That sounds like something Group W would have done.
KDKA and WBZ did indeed do what you described. It was part of what made Group W
unique. But not The Price Is Right!
 
(wish I could remember their
> weather guy's name, he was a real character)...
>

His name was Lloyd Lindsey Young. He would open his weather segment by saying "Helloooooo, (name of city/town in the NYC metropolitan area)". He really was a character.
 
Game Show Network from its early days as well as USA network from 1985-1994

Why? Because I am a big fan of game shows. Plus, USA aired short-lived sitcoms such as: It's Your Move, Double Trouble, and Throb. Also they reran Street Hawk.
 
WTBS in its 80s phase when it was still a local station, transmitting as a SuperStation to the national audience...local commercials and all.

KDOC/56 Anaheim Los Angeles...from 1982-87, when it produced more local shows than any other L.A. TV station. Not always great, but it was different and unique. It also looked like cable access does today in a lot of places.
 
I'd vote to see the sign on and first few days of WTWS-26 New London, CT along with a few old news/weather casts from Theresea Berry.
 
WKBN-TV in Youngstown, Ohio, some weekday in the late 70's or early 80's, mainly because of their
"Money Movie" that they ran in the afternoons from 4-6. Was a mix of some pretty good old-time favorites (the original Cheaper By The Dozen), cult classics (James Coburn's The President's Analyst),
and some intriguing clinkers (Jack Palance as Che Guevara). This would be interrupted a few times an hour by a phone call out to ask someone out there if they knew how much money was in the Money Movie jackpot. If the person on the line was watching and knew the amount, they'd win that much money. If not the Jackpot would increase for the next call. If the person did not know, they could still win a consolation prize of five dollars, simply for telling the host who's picture was on the five dollar bill. (after watching this program for several years, I came to the conclusion that 80% of the population of Youngstown, Ohio has not a clue who'se picture is on the five!)

They had a screen on which they projected random phone number prefixes from their service area in
Ohio and Pennsylvania, and four tumblers that randomly alternated the last four digits. The host,
(usually Rich Morgan, who I believe is still with the station) would freeze the screen and get a prefix
("this time we are calling New Castle, Pennsylvania...), and then he would stop the tumblers to get his
last four digits (they would pan away from that at a stategic time, so every crank caller would not start dialing the same number).

The interesting part was that, since the number was totally random, they never had any idea what they would get. Often it was an invalid number, they would try again, but sometimes they got 3 bad numbers in a row, were out of time and just had to increase the pot and move on. But I will never forget one day when Rich Morgan dialed a number and they answered....

"United Parcel Service...."

HOST - "Hi, this is Rich Morgan on the TV-27 Money Movie. You can win our Money Movie
jackpot, just by telling me how much money is in our Money Movie jackpot at this hour."

CALL - "....(pregnant silence)................hold on!

He put Morgan on hold, which was very awkward because it was live, and he had to scramble to fill time.
He read some promos for upcoming CBS shows on 27 that evening. After what seemed like forever, the caller came back on the line and said....

" ......the Crew says fifty-nine dollars!"

HOST - Well, the Crew is wrong. This hour we had thirty-seven dollars and sixty-nine cents in the
Money Movie jackpot. But you can still win a consolation prize of five dollars, simply by telling me
who's picture is on the five-dollar bill."

CALL - "....(pregnant silence)................................................................hold on!

By this point Morgan was in total panic mode, because he had blown his hard-break by at least 60 seconds! He was out of promos to read and just looked at the camera, stammering about nothing to fill time. Finally, the caller came back on....

"The Crew says Lincoln!"

HOST - "Well, the crew is right! Whom am I speaking with today?"

CALL - "....(pregnant silence).....................United Parcel Service!"

HOST - "Yes, I know, but who do we send the money to..."

CALL - "Just send it to United Parcel Service in Yougstown. We'll get it!"

(-click-)

HOST - (pregnant pause)...................."So, this hour we gave away five dollars to
United Parcel Service in Youngstown!"


It was absolutely classic! What I shame that my first VHS machine was at least five years away!
 
WGN, Channel 9 Chicago in the mid-60's when they had LIVE programs all over the place.

558 sign on
- 6am Top of the Morning w/Orion Samuelson
- 6:30 News
6:45 Cartoons (Warner Bros.)
- 7-8:30 Ray Rayner and Friends
- 8:30 Romper Room
9-10:30 You Bet Your Life and some other old stuff
10:30-noon Mike Douglas
- noon BOZO
- 1 news
1:15 movie
2:30 Highway Patrol, Rescue 8, Whirlybirds
- 4 3 Stooges
- 5-5:45 Garfield Goose & Friends
- 5:45 news
6-6:30 Mon; Huckleberry Hound
Tue Yogi Bear
Wed Quickdrwa McGraw
Thu Woody Woodpecker
Fri Rocky & His Friends
 
WPIX 11 in New York, WVAH 23 in Charleston-Huntington, West Virginia, WGN in Chicago, WSBK in Boston, and KPLR 11 in St. Louis.
 
Independent channel 51 in Fort Lauderdale (no, not Miami) in the
70s before it became a Spanish station, when the late Dave Dixon
(who later went on to a long career in Detroit radio) played old
movies and old TV shows like Highway Patrol, with plenty of great
jazz by Bix Beiderbecke in between. We'lll mis you, Dave.

Independent channel 6 in Miami, when with the late Big Wilson,
it did something similar.

American Movie Classics, when it showed real classics from long
before I was born, not overplayed movies from the 60s, 70s, 80s,
and 90s.

Nick at Nite and TVLand, when they hadn't become afraid to play
the great B & W comedies of the 50s. Will we ever see the likes of
Dobie Gillis or Ernie Kovacs again, in this era when everything for
the masses must be in color and preferably stereo and HD, too?

Educational stations, when their mission was culture, not political
correctness and liberal propaganda.

And independent channel 39 (now WB), back in the 80s when
you could watch both Howard Stern and GLOW late Saturday
nights. Howard was fuinny back then.

73s
 
WPXI/11 Pittsburgh also called itself 11 Alive; the folks
at WXIA used to laugh about this, since WPXI is a sister
station to WXIA's archrival WSB/2.

Combined Communications (bought by Gannett in '79) used
Alive in the IDs of four of its stations; besides WXIA,
they were: KOCO/5 Alive Oklahoma City, WPTA/21 Alive
Ft. Wayne, IN, WLKY/32 Alive Louisville.

CCC's Phoenix flagship KTAR-TV used "12Alive" until the call letter change to KPNX (back to "Channel 12" also)
 
WSAH/43 Bridgeport, CT from its days at WICC-TV/43. (That can never happen tho as the station burned down in the early 60s several years after they went dark and all of it's shows destroyed).

WHCT/18 Hartford, CT when they were CBS briefly in the 50s.

WWLP Springfield, MA when they were Channel 61.

WGGB Springfield, MA when they were WHYN Channel 55.

WRLP/32 Greenfield, MA. (This now dark station was a simul of WWLP)

WTXX/20 Waterbury, CT from when they were NBC/53 WATR.
 
PaulBWalkerJr said:
I'd vote to see the sign on and first few days of WTWS-26 New London, CT along with a few old news/weather casts from Theresea Berry.
Click to expand...

Don't forget the Manager's Minute with Jim Kontoleon, WWF/E wrestling, AWA wrestling and Yankees baseball from WPIX! :)
 
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