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Gadon said:
In terms of people who did use Rutland as a 'way station' to someplace better, not sure if you would know who these people are anyway...

And apparently, neither would anyone else know who they are, other than their moms, since you still can't name a name.

"Greatness" isn't all that hard to define as it relates to working in radio. You know it when you hear it. It is, however, something more than being pleasant, inoffensive and competent. "Greatness" in radio catches people's attention. They talk about what they heard on the radio on the way to work. It becomes part of their daily life in an interactive way. Peers and colleagues from other markets, including Boston, Hartford, Providence, talk about how great Joe Blow is in Rutland. There is an industry buzz, and a community buzz about that person.

The last person I can remember who created such a buzz in Rutland...and it has been a long time...was John Clark, who did morning drive at WSYB for a time. Was he "great"? I dunno, but he was funny, it was compelling listening, and Rutlanders tuned in to see what crazy thing he'd do next. Of course, he went on to own WTSA in Brattleboro for a long time. That's the best I can come up with. You got a better candidate for Rutland greatness?
 
Again, the names wouldn't mean much to you anyway, since you probably never heard these people doing their thing on the airwaves here.. Certainly Jack Healey was a huge talent on his 35+ years in Rutland radio. He won Vermont Sportscaster of the Year from the AP many many times, and is in the Vt. Assn. of Broadcasters Hall of Fame. I cannot think of anyone who has done more to promote the local high school sports scene than Jack both inside and outside of the building.. He's gone internet with neksports.net, and it was reported that in a Rutland / Essex Football Playoff game he had 18,000+ people listening to his audio stream, even while the game was broadcast on local terrestrial radio. One of my former co-workers is tearing it up on morning radio in Des Moines, Iowa on a top rated rocker in town here. Des Moines is market number +/-90.

The person you are talking about was most likely doing radio at a time when their were one full time and one daytime AM signals on the air in Rutland, and that is, "long time ago in galaxy far far and away".

I don;t think there are too many 'peers' left in these markets like there once were, since there is so much 'voice tracking' and 'repeater radio' elements now in place.

There's a couple fer yah, Mr. Lester..
 
Gadon said:
The person you are talking about was most likely doing radio at a time when their were one full time and one daytime AM signals on the air in Rutland, and that is, "long time ago in galaxy far far and away".

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There's a couple fer yah, Mr. Lester..

Actually, you still have named just one person, Jack Healey, and yeah, he's pretty well-known as an excellent sportscaster.

Your "Des Moines" friend....come on, name a name. What are you afraid of?

You make me laugh when you make you demonstrate your ignorance about John Clark. You don't know him, yet you make the ludicrous assumption that just because he worked in a time when there were fewer radio outlets in Rutland, that somehow his on-air work doesn't count. Funny is funny, and compelling radio that creates a local buzz is exactly that, whether there is one frequency or 100 frequencies in town. Clark only worked a couple years in Rutland, but he made a serious splash. And he worked 30 years in Brattleboro....drive 50 miles south and ask folks in the 'Boro if they remember John Clark on WTSA. The guy was exactly the kind of local legend that you claim you love.
 
Lester baby, like I said you probably have never heard of him.

In the case of John Clark, isn't his real last name Healy as well ?? ;) I'm glad he had along and storied career in Brattleboro and lived up to your standards as a professionally trained broadcast specialist.

You don't know him, yet you make the ludicrous assumption that just because he worked in a time when there were fewer radio outlets in Rutland, that somehow his on-air work doesn't count.


You missed my point entirely on this one.. Clark and others like him in "Small Market Radio USA", stood out a lot more, due to the lack of radio etc. choices.. no FM, Ipod, internet, XM/Sirius, Cell Phones, Computer, etc.. Are you with me now on this ??

Also leave the personal attacks out. Maybe Lester Young is your real name, maybe it's not.. I'm the real deal and use my name.. The few and proud that do.. It keeps it all honest.. :D
 
Clark was Kuldiff, who was the former owner.. I get it now, even though I have never heard either one of them on the air. I think this is getting way off topic, since Brattleboro is not the topic of conversation here..
 
Hey it doesn't matter if we staying with the Topic of this discussion...all we have to do is mention Nassau broadcasting and how screwed up they are...somebody will run with it for a few days!
 
Gadon said:
Clark was Kuldiff, who was the former owner.. I get it now, even though I have never heard either one of them on the air.

Um, try Kilduff.

And it says volumes that you've never heard either of them on the air, rookie.
 
rookie.
ha ha ha ha...Good one.... I appreciate your zeal for Brattleboro radio, Les Baby, and the fact you are making it sound like the center of the northern New England radio universe.. I'll have to really pay attention to the radio dial, and every personality whether live or 'repeatered' so I can never falter on radio in 'The People's Republic of Brattleboro" ever again ;D.. How is T J Buckley's doing ??
 
Gadon said:
rookie.
ha ha ha ha...Good one.... I appreciate your zeal for Brattleboro radio, Les Baby, and the fact you are making it sound like the center of the northern New England radio universe.. I'll have to really pay attention to the radio dial, and every personality whether live or 'repeatered' so I can never falter on radio in 'The People's Republic of Brattleboro" ever again ;D.. How is T J Buckley's doing ??

I wouldn't know about TJ Buckley's, I've never eaten there.

For that matter, I don't live anywhere near Brattleboro, nor do I consider it the center of the radio universe. Neither, for that matter, is RutVegas, as is becoming abundantly clear in this thread, given that the only name submitted for radio greatness in that backwater toilet of a town is Jack Healey, who has indeed done some superior radio work.
 
Well, I'm glad, Les Baby, that we agree on the Jackster.. The station that still calls their sports coverage award winning, probably hasn't won too many awards since Jack left the building.

Rutland certainly is not the center of the, "Northern New England Radio Info Universe", and just like any market USA, big or small, was a lot more interesting and compelling before consolidation and big corpororate radio mushroomed on the scene..

Calling Rutland a 'backwater toilet of a town' is quite the insult to me, as well as to many Rutlanders who read these boards.. You should try TJ Buckley's, it's a place of 'class', you could use some....
 
Gadon said:
Calling Rutland a 'backwater toilet of a town' is quite the insult to me, as well as to many Rutlanders who read these boards..

It's only an insult to you personally if you choose to make it one. You are not the town, and the town is not you.

But the town is an ugly blot on the Vermont landscape, with a crime-and-drugs problem that is far larger than a community of that size should have. Rutland's reputation was never a good one, but it has markedly nosedived in the last decade or so. And no Chamber of Commerce or local radio cheerleading is going to change that reality.
 
Will said:
Exactly. I call it the (expletive)belt. Draw a circle around Rutland, Albany, New Haven and Springfield. There's your belt.

I thought I was the only one who felt that way about that corridor.

I intentionally turned down job offers in Albany and Springfield when I worked in radio precisely for that reason. There's just something really unpleasant about those regions.

Once i saw a piece of graffiti that made me laugh because it was so true: "Albany is the a**hole of New York, and Troy is 8 miles up it."
 
Going back to the original direction of the post, all I can say Arnie Poondogger, is that be thankful there is a morning show on your favorite AM station in Rutland after all.. Their company recently put the 'kaboom' on their news talk sister station in Albany... Check out Hudson Valley boards.. Bigger market, bigger reaction.. Yowzah ! :eek:
 
Lester Young said:
But the town is an ugly blot on the Vermont landscape, with a crime-and-drugs problem that is far larger than a community of that size should have. Rutland's reputation was never a good one, but it has markedly nosedived in the last decade or so. And no Chamber of Commerce or local radio cheerleading is going to change that reality.

What is so awful about Rutland? While I haven't really spent any time there, mostly just passed thru it didn't seem particularly decrepit. It's got to be one of the few cities in the state that has any commerce whatsoever. Seems weird to drive thru a Vermont city on a Sunday or after noon on a Saturday and actually see businesses open!
 
First time using my cell phone to enter a response, so no guarantees how well it comes out. Anyway, I'm trying to figure out the controversy over how great someone should be in Rutland, when even major markets don't appear to have many winners of that esteemed club these days. Can anyone name a person (or group) NOT NATIONALLY SYNDICATED in each (or any) of the top 20 markets?
 
Mark Decker said:
Can anyone name a person (or group) NOT NATIONALLY SYNDICATED in each (or any) of the top 20 markets?

Good point, although I think it's easy to pick some outstanding local talent if sports or talk radio is included in the mix. For instance, Howie Carr and Steve Leveille in Boston....whether you like them or not, they are strictly local, and they make compelling listening with two very different styles.

Music format stars? That's tough. The days of Dale Dorman as a radio god are a long time in the rear view mirror.
 
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