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In a future filled with electric cars, AM radio may be left behind (off-topic)

Kelly's not wrong. If this service sells, it'll be for everything except the AM functionality for most buyers.
And don't forget live sports. Is the full broadcast of the AM going to be available here, or are the leagues going to demand customers pay for their games to be heard on these services? That's about the only reason I have to tune to the AM band anymore, and not much of one at that being as the team I really want to hear isn't even on the radio in my area.
 
And don't forget live sports. Is the full broadcast of the AM going to be available here, or are the leagues going to demand customers pay for their games to be heard on these services? That's about the only reason I have to tune to the AM band anymore, and not much of one at that being as the team I really want to hear isn't even on the radio in my area.
I would have to think geofencing would be a real consideration for pro sports teams.
 
I would have to think geofencing would be a real consideration for pro sports teams.
And geofencing costs more money.

Was speaking with a TV director who works for a Regional Sports Network the other day. He's concerned that with Sinclair WAY overspending to acquire a bunch of RSN's, hand them over to Bally's to run, then recently Bally's announcing they may not survive as a business in 2023, that sports teams are pricing broadcast rights, right out of business. Of course, the leagues default to; 'fine, you broadcasters or RSN's don't want to pay, then we'll just stream the games'.

Among many of the complications with that threat, come the fact that the teams and leagues have no clue what it takes to stream TV or radio games. All the business and production preparation involved, not to mention having to pay someone like Alphabet or Netflix to carry the games, and the teams/leagues go from making money from selling broadcast rights, to paying someone to broadcast games. Even if the teams/leagues bring everything in-house, they'll have to set up everything from sales to production from scratch. That could take years.

It's honestly gotten to the point of player salaries having become so ridiculous, that teams/leagues just assume they'll make up the difference with equally ridiculous broadcast rights fees. Problem is; those fees have become a deal breaker to most broadcasters.
 
How about not even being able to charge it????
On the surface, sounds like a malfunction with their Tesla's internal BMS (Battery Management System).
And really, how many dino-powered vehicles suffered from some sort of mechanical or battery failure which stranded their owners during this period of cold weather? I'm sure it was unpleasant for the complainant, but being stranded due to a technical problem with a vehicle is nothing unique to EV's.
 
How about not even being able to charge it????
First, what Kelly said.

Second, if this were a common problem, the story wouldn't be "radio host in Virginia with a significant social media following couldn't charge his Tesla in the cold"---it would be "Thousands of Tesla owners stranded as cars won't charge in the cold" or "tens of thousands of EV owners of all brands stranded as cars won't charge in the cold."

BIG difference.
 
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A study on how EV owners cope with decreased range in cold temperatures (spoiler alert: they do):

Not using your EV or being limited by battery range is NOT "dealing with it". It is a limitation that cannot be successfully addressed unless you tow a trailer with another battery in it. Oh, wait, tow range drops too. By a lot.

You could sell your house in MN and move down to FL or you could just keep the old ICE running and ignore all this EV foolishness.

Give someone you know in Buffalo a call and see how their week went.
 
On the surface, sounds like a malfunction with their Tesla's internal BMS (Battery Management System).
And really, how many dino-powered vehicles suffered from some sort of mechanical or battery failure which stranded their owners during this period of cold weather? I'm sure it was unpleasant for the complainant, but being stranded due to a technical problem with a vehicle is nothing unique to EV's.
Drivers who properly maintain their ICE cars rarely have a letdown in nasty weather unless said driver causes his/her failure by stupid driving decisions.
 
First, what Kelly said.

Second, if this were a common problem, the story wouldn't be "radio host in Virginia with a significant social media following couldn't charge his Tesla in the cold"---it would be "Thousands of Tesla owners stranded as cars won't charge in the cold" or "tens of thousands of EV owners of all brands stranded as cars won't charge in the cold."

BIG difference.
VA is one state that has a large variety of weather conditions due to the "beach to the mountains" topography but it's not like living in upper New England or the Plains or upper Midwest states where severe freezing gets well below 0F.
 
Drivers who properly maintain their ICE cars rarely have a letdown in nasty weather unless said driver causes his/her failure by stupid driving decisions.
Really? So vehicle batteries never fail in when the weather turns cold? I've had it happen myself on a two year old battery. Car wouldn't start after work. I didn't go on line and start bashing the situation like it was SO unique. My brother in law had a cold-related problem with his six month old Mercedes SUV that stranded him. Dealer replaced the computer under warranty.
It's delusional to think any vehicle couldn't suffer a stranding-event even if one keeps up with maintenance.
What this is all about are people against anything new just look for specific examples to prove their point.
 
What, that primarily angry, white, male, seniors are the primary remaining listeners to AM? Those are the facts. Just because you personally might fall into that category, doesn't mean stating the fact is meant as a pejorative.
Kelly A must be a perfect human being. Anyone not in his demo (whatever that may be) or with a different opinion is an angry white male or a Luddite, or delusional. He seems to feel the need to constantly judge people and call out those with whom he disagrees.

The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines anger as, "A strong feeling of displeasure and usually of antagonism." Do we see any or that in Kelly A's posts?

Racism is defined as, "The belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another."

I am not suggesting that Kelly A is an angry racist, just that he's acting like one.

Here's the thing. He's made clear that he has no use for AM talk radio, so he's probably not a regular listener. That's fine. Conversely, I have no use for oldies formats and I don't listen to them. I have my opinions but I'm not driven by some underlying, seething anger to constantly swoop into those forums and sound off with quick generalizations. That would be trolling, IMO.

Kelly A is quick to call posters "Luddites" without knowing their technological backgrounds. He assumes that I am a white male, although he's never met me. His only basis for that assumption is that I've said I listen to talk radio. So since Kelly A's posts are based on assumptions, not facts, we should take anything he says with the proverbial grain of salt.
 
Kelly A must be a perfect human being. Anyone not in his demo (whatever that may be) or with a different opinion is an angry white male or a Luddite, or delusional. He seems to feel the need to constantly judge people and call out those with whom he disagrees.

The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines anger as, "A strong feeling of displeasure and usually of antagonism." Do we see any or that in Kelly A's posts?

Racism is defined as, "The belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another."

I am not suggesting that Kelly A is an angry racist, just that he's acting like one.

Here's the thing. He's made clear that he has no use for AM talk radio, so he's probably not a regular listener. That's fine. Conversely, I have no use for oldies formats and I don't listen to them. I have my opinions but I'm not driven by some underlying, seething anger to constantly swoop into those forums and sound off with quick generalizations. That would be trolling, IMO.

Kelly A is quick to call posters "Luddites" without knowing their technological backgrounds. He assumes that I am a white male, although he's never met me. His only basis for that assumption is that I've said I listen to talk radio. So since Kelly A's posts are based on assumptions, not facts, we should take anything he says with the proverbial grain of salt.
Interesting third person diatribe. Who you talking to there Wadio? Don't have the stones to challenge me directly?
Seething? Got a good chuckle out of that one, thanks.
 
Not using your EV or being limited by battery range is NOT "dealing with it". It is a limitation that cannot be successfully addressed unless you tow a trailer with another battery in it. Oh, wait, tow range drops too. By a lot.

You could sell your house in MN and move down to FL or you could just keep the old ICE running and ignore all this EV foolishness.

Give someone you know in Buffalo a call and see how their week went.
I did.

None of my non-hypothetical Buffalo friends has gone anywhere since Thursday, of course, whether by ICE, hybrid, EV or dog sled.

That said, my one particular actual Buffalo friend who drives a Hyundai Ioniq back and forth several times a week between offices there and here... he's been making the schlep all this winter and last, and reports no significant real-world loss in battery range. He sometimes stops to do some work at a library here with a charging station, but he says he can easily do the Buffalo-Rochester-Buffalo run (140 miles rt) on a charge, summer or winter, unless the Thruway is closed.
 
Here's the thing. He's made clear that he has no use for AM talk radio, so he's probably not a regular listener. That's fine.
But AM radio has little over 5% of total listening overall, and nearly all is over age 55 and much is over 65.

Almost all the shares are going to news/talk formats, with a few all news remaining without an FM simulcast and some sports stations still seeking one. The rest is ground clutter.
Conversely, I have no use for oldies formats and I don't listen to them.
(Presuming you refer to "classic hits") Yet just that single format has, in nearly every market, more listening that the whole AM band.

(On the chance you are really referring to "oldies") Yet almost no stations remain in that format.
Kelly A is quick to call posters "Luddites" without knowing their technological backgrounds. He assumes that I am a white male, although he's never met me.
And that is because almost exactly 100% of news/talk radio listening goes to whites. And most of them are male.
His only basis for that assumption is that I've said I listen to talk radio. So since Kelly A's posts are based on assumptions, not facts, we should take anything he says with the proverbial grain of salt.
This is really a classic case of "if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."

There are no statistics to prove otherwise. And I've never heard of calling a person to be "white" to be considered "racist".
 
But AM radio has little over 5% of total listening overall, and nearly all is over age 55 and much is over 65.

Almost all the shares are going to news/talk formats, with a few all news remaining without an FM simulcast and some sports stations still seeking one. The rest is ground clutter.

(Presuming you refer to "classic hits") Yet just that single format has, in nearly every market, more listening that the whole AM band.

(On the chance you are really referring to "oldies") Yet almost no stations remain in that format.

And that is because almost exactly 100% of news/talk radio listening goes to whites. And most of them are male.

This is really a classic case of "if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."

There are no statistics to prove otherwise. And I've never heard of calling a person to be "white" to be considered "racist".
David, I don't disagree with anything you've said ... and you've said it in a calm, civil way.

You've also helped make my point. By "oldies radio" I was painting with a broad brush, including discontinued formats, the SiriusXM decades channels, etc. But its much more nuanced than that. So is talk radio.

There's nothing wrong with the words, "white, "angry," "man" or "old," but when you put them together, as in "angry old white man," that's pejorative.

There's nothing wrong with the words, "music," or "cowboy," but if someone who doesn't like Country Music keeps popping up on forums declaring that Country Music is just, "Cowboy Music, that's dismissive and pejorative.

My point is that it doesn't hurt to have a little respect for other posters by not flinging insults that have little to add to the conversation. That's all.
 
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