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In Memoriam: Tampa Bay Talk Radio 1967-1999

We're coming up on another sad anniversary. It was ten years ago next month (December 3, 1999) that the last vestige of local talk radio died in Tampa Bay. 970 changed from a great local station to a syndicated outpost and occasionally a syndication incubator.

December 3, 1999, was when 970 brought down the curtain on the career of the great Bob Lassiter, and fired Marvelous Marvin. Mark Larsen got out of 970 on his own initiative -- but probably just ahead of the sweep-out-localism broom.

Up until that point, through the 32-year history of talk radio in Tampa (dating from the talk launch of WINQ 1010) there was always someone else waiting to pick up the torch of local talk. WINQ handed off to the talk shows on music stations ("Open Mike" on WLCY and "Point of View" on WDAE). Then came WPLP, WNSI, WFLA, WTKN, WEND, and finally (for a time) WSUN. But when 970 abandoned local in 1999, no one else was there to pick it up. Certainly not WWBA which was in the throes of daytime brokered programming such as the "Frank Foster Show" and the man named Hale who was always talking about bridal arrangements. (?) Certainly not WTAN
where some of the refugees and wannabe's wound up (Rocky D, Glenn Klein).

Yes, Lassiter was followed by Glenn Beck, but clearly Tampa was just the first stop on the railway, as his employers would soon railroad him into syndication. Meantime, we've lost our local talk radio, our local flavor, and the innovation that for a time made Tampa one of the top (arguably the most creative, or at least second to Miami) talk radio market in America.

Let those who can remember mourn our loss, and those who can't mourn the fact that they were born too late.
 
The sad thing is that where I work, many of my co-workers were inspired to get into radio because of the syndication boom that occurred after 9/11. Glenn cries a lot about that day, but one can't help but wonder if those are tears of joy, because 9/11 made his career... but I digress.

My less informed co-workers frequently talk about the "golden age of talk radio" which in their estimation is the Beck/Limbaugh/Hannity lineup that most CC stations have. I understand that to those of us in the know, this can only be explained as some sort of mental illness. But there are many young and eager people working their way up in radio right now that consider these people to be heros. That doesn't say much for the future of talk radio.
 
Where are Jack Harris and Tedd Webb piped in from? I thought they did a local talk radio show, but from the above posts I have to believe otherwise now?
 
The New Guy said:
Where are Jack Harris and Tedd Webb piped in from? I thought they did a local talk radio show, but from the above posts I have to believe otherwise now?
WFLA 970 goes the extra mile during the week to have 4 hours of live and local programming each morning (Harris and Webb minus Sharon Taylor),in the form of political opinions, entertainment and news, traffic and weather; much like the Dove 105.5 goes the extra mile for 4 hours of live and local programming each weekday.

It will be interesting to sample the show again, once a replacement for Sharon Taylor is hired.

drt
 
The New Guy said:
Where are Jack Harris and Tedd Webb piped in from?

They are piped in from Gandy blvd - long distance is the next best thing to being there.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
drt said:
WFLA 970 goes the extra mile during the week to have 4 hours of live and local programming each morning (Harris and Webb minus Sharon Taylor),in the form of political opinions, entertainment and news, traffic and weather; much like the Dove 105.5 goes the extra mile for 4 hours of live and local programming each weekday.

"Goes the extra mile"??? Please tell me that was a tongue in cheek comment.
 
Cedric said:
drt said:
WFLA 970 goes the extra mile during the week to have 4 hours of live and local programming each morning (Harris and Webb minus Sharon Taylor),in the form of political opinions, entertainment and news, traffic and weather; much like the Dove 105.5 goes the extra mile for 4 hours of live and local programming each weekday.

"Goes the extra mile"??? Please tell me that was a tongue in cheek comment.
I guess I should have been more "worldly" and said, they (WFLA and the Dove 105.5) go the extra kilometer!!

btw- I've noticed that 1520 has been going the extra mile/kilometer lately and signing off within 30 minutes of the time they're supposed to sign off as a daytime only station.(instead of broadcasting 24/7!)

It's nice to see all of these stations going the extra mile!! :)
 
Michael’s list of favorite local talk hosts from days past. (please note just because I liked them does not mean they were that great

1. Mr. Lassiter (Great)
2 Neil Rogers (kinda local)
3. Mark McGee (AKA Weird Beard) (Very Good)
4. John Eastman (Very Good)
5. Mark Beiro
6. Dick Norman (Great)
7. Jack Ellery
8 Mark Larsen (Close to great at one time)
9. Liz Richards
10. The guy who Eastman replaced at WDAE
 
I'm going to be the contrarian here by saying that, while I think all of us who work or worked in radio preferred to hear local talk show hosts, I don't think the average listener cares that much whether the talk is local or not. I say that because I think Rush Limbaugh has excellent ratings on many stations, and WFLA is No. 1 among the AM stations in the market with good numbers with non-local programming. I used to like to listen to the local AM stations in small towns as I was driving on long trips to get the flavor of the town, etc., so I miss that, and of course the employment opportunities for on air people have diminished greatly, but, again, I don't see that non-radio people care that much whether or not the talk show host is in the same town. Also the economics of radio have made it difficult to afford good talent at the local level -- that is, the investment in the extra salaries might not pay off in higher billing. So I think it's sad how the industry has changed but I think these changes have been inevitable because of the increased competition radio has from other things such as smart phones, the Internet, satellite radio and TV, etc. I hope I didn't anger too many people!
 
I think there are qualitative differences between local talk and nationally syndicated talk. The former is more "two-way" (in fact,the format used to be called "two way talk radio") and depended a lot more on caller interaction, which contributed to the station's local flavor. Nationally syndicated is much more one-way and calls are more heavily screened, making it easier to make the host look infallible. Using more caller input is one way to deflect the cost of high salaries. You don't always need a strong host -- in fact, sometimes it can work at cross purposes to being caller driven. Tampa Bay had great callers in the 80's and probably would again if they had something to call into.

WFLA 's growth as a talk station really began with locals like Lassiter and Dick Norman, and when the syndication arrived, it simply built on the platform of that success. The 12+ share pulled by general talk in the fall of 1987 (8.8 on WFLA and WPLP) was bigger than the shares usually pulled by remaining stations in the format (WFLA, WWBA, and WGUL) during the last years of the diary era. Across the state, Miami's talk shares are lower now -- much lower -- than they were in the days of three and a half thriving local English-language talk stations.
 
Jeff Miller said:
I'm going to be the contrarian here by saying that, while I think all of us who work or worked in radio preferred to hear local talk show hosts, I don't think the average listener cares that much whether the talk is local or not. I say that because I think Rush Limbaugh has excellent ratings on many stations, and WFLA is No. 1 among the AM stations in the market with good numbers with non-local programming.

Based on recent moves by CC, how long until they take their 970 format to FM, 97.9 perhaps?
 
Based on recent moves by CC, how long until they take their 970 format to FM, 97.9 perhaps?

It's already there on the hd-2 channel.

They weren't happy about the 970 signal into Pasco and Hernando County (never have been). Since the 97.9 stick is in Holiday, it made sense.

HD radio has a ways to go to be viable in an emergency, though.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
RMarino said:
badjef said:
HD radio has a ways to go to be viable in an emergency, though.

Some might say WFLA has a ways to go to be viable in an emergency too :D
Maybe, but there are 7 other stations in the same building as WFLA. If push came to shove, there is a lot of devoted and highly talented people that would show up pretty quickly if needed.

I doubt that the same could be said in a larger market.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
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