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has there ever been a show become more irrelevant than the Kim Peterson Show? Why is this show still on the air? It is pointless to continue.
 
>>>>has there ever been a show become more irrelevant than the Kim Peterson Show?<<<<

Obviously you've never heard Grumpy Hughes in the morning.
 
For the love of all that's holy PLEASE QUIT TALKING ABOUT WGST!!! Talk about anything else! PLEASE!! We all know the station sucks, management sucks...in fact, trees from neighboring states are all leaning towards Atlanta because the station SUCKS so much. Talk about Kicks, talk about 99X, talk about governmental regulations for the radio industry, talk about ANYTHING EXCEPT WGST!!!

And, for the last time...How will this affect Q100?

Thank you and who wants the soap box next? ;D
 
When I was on the air back in the 80's I had , verified by Arbitron, the least listened to radio show in the Atlanta area. I held that distinction for quite a few years.
But I guess you mean now........why don't we just name the ones that ARE relevant......
 
Hey Surfer...just a tip:
When I see something on this board that I'm either sick of, or doesn't interest me, I just ignore it.

Kind of like the way 98.4% of Atlanta radio listeners ignore WGST. :)
 
surfer- it's still an issue because it proves clear channel doesn't have any clue how to program talk radio in a lot of places.
 
taylorengineer said:
When I was on the air back in the 80's I had , verified by Arbitron, the least listened to radio show in the Atlanta area. I held that distinction for quite a few years.
But I guess you mean now........why don't we just name the ones that ARE relevant......
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Okay, relevant radio shows.........


..........I think that just about sums it up. ;)
 
OK, so WGST is to be ignored. Then why is it almost always discussed on this board? Do the people here really think it can be fixed? ???
 
has there ever been a show become more irrelevant than the Kim Peterson Show? Why is this show still on the air?
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To be honest, the show is still on the air because Kim Peterson is the PERFECT profile for a "talk show host"--he is WHITE, MALE, and MIDDLE-AGED to OLD. Those are virtually the ONLY qualifications one must have in order to be a talk show host. Forget the ENTERTAINMENT value. Forget the ability to bring in the ratings or revenue. Forget the ability to create ORIGINAL content. NONE of those factors matter to "the powers that be" in talk radio. As long as you are a white man 40+ years old, you will be granted the opportunity to be a talk show host.

Before anyone even tries to allege that I'm another "race-bating" black whiner, let me be the first to tell you that I'm FAR from that. However, I must identify things for WHAT THEY ARE. I challenge you to find stations that offer a FAIR opportunity to a black talent. You won't find one. I also realize that there are factors in play here that have very little to do with these PDs at these stations...

We (black folks) don't do enough to promote GOOD talk talent with opportunities either, because generally "black" talk stations are TOO OBSESSED with promoting a political philosophy than offering the BEST talent the opportunity to host a talk show. This causes a general (white) PD to believe that ALL "black" talk show hosts are liberal MORONS who believe that "the man is holding us back", and that all the solutions of the black SOCIAL ills can be solved with a government (taxpayer funded) program. Honestly, if I believed that notion, hell I wouldn't hire a black talent, either. Therefore in this case, I do blame the "black" talkers for the negative perception ALL "black" talk show hosts are receiving. For example, WAOK (the laughingstock of the industry), and the Radio One talk projects have been miserable failures NOT because they hire black talents, it is because they hired UNQUALIFIED talents. Furthermore, they focused more on political ideology than on ability to entertain and grow a listener base. Unfortunately, as a result, ALL black talents are virtually "black-balled" (no pun intended of course) from a legitimate opportunity on a general talk station because of the decisions of idiots who program "black" talk stations and networks. The domino effect on the general talk stations is that they limit the pool of talent in which they have to pull from when it comes to having to decide on whom to offer an opportunity to do a talk show.

The point I'm trying to make here is that general talk radio station PDs need to realize ALL "black" talents do NOT subscribe to the idiocy that's on constant display, courtesy of "black" talk stations. There are plenty of us (myself for one) that have the ability to ENTERTAIN, maintain and ATTRACT listeners of ALL races and age groups. These PDs should expand their search for talent to include ALL legitimate candidates--not just middle aged and older white males. That's not the only listening demographic, and that should not be the only talent demographic. The "black" talk networks and stations need to also stop promoting the image of being the "voice" for (ALL) black people. It's paralyzing those of us that don't subscribe to their nonsense. They need to promote themselves as the "voice" for the Democratic Party and be done with it. That's all they want to do anyway.

As for the notion that WGST should be ignored, I can see the point, but I believe that we should express our disdain with that station because it is a waste of a frequency (no matter how weak it is). Many of us do not like WSB, and realize that if there were a station that would actually offer WSB some competition, then it would improve the quality of the programming at WSB. That's why we express our frustration with WGST because it is the closest thing that could offer WSB some competition--but the truth of the matter is that the current programming staff has NO CLUE on how to achieve such a goal. Unfortunately, as long as the management style of Clear Channel remains a "heavy handed" one, virtually NOTHING will change at that station--REGARDLESS of who's programming it. They will continue to make half-assed programming decisions because Clear will always have their hands in the programming matters (i.e., the Denny Shaffer disaster).

The solution to all this mess is that Clear needs to stop trying to program WGST from San Antonio, hire a PD that KNOWS the Atlanta market and will make programming decisions accordingly, and TRUST him or her to do their damn job. If Clear would get their damn hands out of areas in which they obviously have NO expertise, and place those responsibilities with those that do, then they can go back to doing what they do best--count money, that is if they actually do that well...
 
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How can you explain the success of Hermain Cane on WSB? Sounds like you are angry you didn't get hired at GST. Maybe it's not because you are black. I have never heard your show, but have you done any major market radio? Why should GST hire you instead of Dave Paul, Brian Wilson, or JD Wells?

You make some good points but man you sound as [EDIT]

btw you won't get hired by ripping on the folks you want to work for. .
Jmho.

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BJ. You sound really bitter.
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I'm sure you are white, and this is relevant. You will NEVER understand my grievance. Do you study ratings? I'm sure not. Since you ADMITTED that you haven't heard my show, then you are NOT at any liberty to intelligently comment on my grievance...

How can you explain the success of Herman Cane on WSB?
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If you call that successful, then I'd hate to see what a failure is. If you think that Herman Cain is entertaining, then I would strongly question your taste in ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing personal against Herman Cain--he is a BRILLIANT guy, and a great man, but a talk show host? There's a reason he is on Saturdays, DESPITE his alleged "success", as you claim. While you are mentioning Herman Cain (ONE black guy versus "umpteen" middle-aged to OLD white guys), why don't you enlighten us on ALL the OTHER black guys on the air? This isn't ONLY about me, sir, this is about the LACK of an opportunity of a black host to get on the air REGARDLESS of their ability to do a talk show.

If the (ratings) numbers were great, sir, then I wouldn't have a grievance at all. I don't know what you are actually defending, but I strongly urge you to STUDY this industry in order to FULLY understand my grievance. F.Y.I., it's not ONLY with WGST, but I will say that WGST's numbers are NOT impressive. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to understand this.

Maybe it's not because you are black. I have never heard your show, but have you done any major market radio?
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Can you please enlighten us on Chris Krock's credentials, and Denny Shaffer's credentials? While you are doing that, enlighten us on Randall Bloomquist's credentials. When you come up empty in this regard, then you will realize how stupid the previous statements you made are. However, you are definitely entitled to write such idiocy.

You make some good points but man you sound as bitter as Cynthia McKinney.
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Instead of criticizing my grievance, why don't you identify the statements I made that were inaccurate, followed by a correction. I'm sure you won't be able to do this. Again, I strongly suggest that you STUDY this INDUSTRY (f.y.i. this industry isn't limited to WGST) before you charge me for being bitter. My grievances are legitimate. If you were black, INTELLIGENT, and an aspiring talent, then you would understand that. Why don't you LISTEN TO THE SHOW FIRST next time before you PRE-judge me.
 
BJ, GST doesn't want to take risks. The station is being run into the ground. They don't want to fix anything or dare to hire anyone exciting or new or different. They don't care. They're wallowing in a the gutter and they just don't care.

You really shouldn't be so surprised.
 
InstrumentofTRUTH said:
BJ. You sound really bitter.
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I'm sure you are white, and this is relevant. You will NEVER understand my grievance.
How can you explain the success of Herman Cane on WSB?
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If you call that successful, then I'd hate to see what a failure is. If you think that Herman Cain is entertaining, then I would strongly question your taste in ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing personal against Herman Cain--he is a BRILLIANT guy, and a great man, but a talk show host? There's a reason he is on Saturdays, DESPITE his alleged "success", as you claim. Instead of criticizing my grievance, why don't you identify the statements I made that were inaccurate, followed by a correction. I'm sure you won't be able to do this.
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Last time I checked, Herman Cain sat in for Boortz on 7 different occasions, during the week, on his syndicated network. Boortz wont be @ WSB forever, that's why they are grooming Krok for when Boortz retires. They may then place Cain in Krok's pm slot, adding some diversity to the daily lineup.

One thing you could learn from Cain: he's not a homophobe and doesn't air his views on that subject on his website or his show. You really shouldn't slam him being on saturdays, when your sign off claims you are on saturdays yourself, in a much smaller market.

Get the chip off your shoulder, and put down the hatorade ;)
 
Last time I checked, Herman Cain sat in for Boortz on 7 different occasions, during the week, on his syndicated network. Boortz wont be @ WSB forever, that's why they are grooming Krok for when Boortz retires. They may then place Cain in Krok's pm slot, adding some diversity to the daily lineup.

One thing you could learn from Cain: he's not a homophobe and doesn't air his views on that subject on his website or his show. You really shouldn't slam him being on saturdays, when your sign off claims you are on saturdays yourself, in a much smaller market.
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I really hate expressing other's blatant idiocy, but I must in this regard. What I hate even more is when people PRE-judge my statements before actually RESEARCHING the statements that I make. By the time I am Herman Cain's AGE (which is at LEAST 20 years from now), I will be in Rush Territory--COUNT ON IT. To compare where I am in my career and where he is isn't an intelligent comparison. I wouldn't be surprised if YOU didn't listen to Cain--because if you did, then you would understand the statements I made about his show. When I talk about talk show hosts, I don't demean their person (especially if I don't know who they are), I do critique their SHOWS based on observations AFTER LISTENING. I strongly suggest that you LISTEN to shows before making IGNORANT assessments.

While you are reviewing the overall issue, I hope you take time to figure out this question:
What white host would be on the air if they had the EXACT same show (delivery) as Herman Cain? Answer: Zero. If you understood the notion of "tokenism", then you would understand my claim here. The LAST thing that "the powers that be" want to do is put a black-hosted show on the air that is actually GOOD. Why? Because it justifies their excuses for continuing to deny other blacks a legitimate opportunity to host a talk show. For example, I've been TOLD that "no one" wants to hear a black conservative because they are BORING (like Herman Cain, the lecturer). I've also heard the "see, I've tried" excuse from those who offer opportunities to people like Cain and Elder--WHEN THEY KNOW FULL WELL that these guy's shows have NO entertainment value at all. I suggest that you study the BIG PICTURE that I'm trying to paint for you, then you will become much more educated in this matter.

As for Chris Krock (of ------), he has as much of a chance to "successfully" become the air-apparent of Boortz, as I have winning the Triple Crown in Major League Baseball. I really wish that those of you who wish to comment on these matters at least took the time to LISTEN TO THESE SHOWS before commenting. It makes you look very ignorant when you comment on things you obviously know NOTHING about. Chris Krock LITERALLY sounds like he is going to sleep WHEN HE IS DOING HIS SHOW. He has NO ability to entertain, no substance, and NO PERSONALITY. In order to be a "radio personality" (especially a morning show host), you have to HAVE personality. He doesn't have personality. What he does have is white skin, and that's why he got this opportunity from Wisconsin, mind you. Why don't you ask people from his FORMER market what they think about Chris Krock? Since you obviously haven't listened to his show, they could fill you in on his capabilities. There is NO black person that is on anybody's air that has the same "talent" (used loosely) that Chris Krock has.

As for the allegations of my being a homophobe, this is yet ANOTHER example of you making IGNORANT statements without researching the issue. If you took time to LISTEN to or READ (fat chance there) anything I've done, you would instantly realize that I'm nowhere near a homophobe. I'm not going to explain this any further, nor do I need to.

Get the chip off your shoulder, and put down the hatorade ;)
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You white folks really kill me. You have NO knowledge of what we as blacks go through, and are totally BLINDED of what's really going on out here, and that's unfortunate. It is blindness like this that gives creditability to "the civil rights establishment", when it is clearly not warranted. If people like you would receive and VERIFY the grievances people like myself make, then you would understand that my grievances are legitimate, and based on FACTUAL information. [EDIT]


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With all due respect to all involved:

Last I checked, this was a radio message board - researching content before responding is not a requirement to sign up and post, and all opinions are welcome.

Carry on...Dano
 
With all due respect to all involved:

Last I checked, this was a radio message board - researching content before responding is not a requirement to sign up and post, and all opinions are welcome.
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I don't think I ever made reference to the requirement of research in order to post. Let's not be downright stupid. I'm hoping I'm not speaking to children here. I shouldn't have to explain that one should LISTEN or RESEARCH something before attempting to sound INTELLIGENT on a particular issue--REGARDLESS if it's their "opinion" or not. Even opinions should be rooted on PERSONAL observations, or facts, not wishes or baseless thoughts. Saying that something doesn't taste good--THAT YOU HAVEN'T TASTED BEFORE is stupid on your behalf. At least taste it or smell it, before you make a judgment on it... That's all I'm saying. I shouldn't have had to explain this so clearly.
 
The last time I checked radio was a business. The majority of these businesses are going to make the decisions that are going to make their stock holders the most money. If that means running programs called "Pet Chat" or "Polka Party 2006" that's what they're going to do. If that causes you as a relatively intelligent black talk show host to build a business case that shows you can be entertaining and bring in the revenue stream that will make the suits happy, then I guess that's what you have to do. But to paint the talk show industry with your broad brush that no one wants to hire you unless you are 40+ and white is not correct. Unfortunately for you, right now, 40+ angry white guys are what people want to hear and advertisers are buying it up. I will say though, I do admire your passion for your craft.
 
>>To spend time on such blatant idiocy would be idiocy on my behalf. I will say that it's amazing how defensive white people are when LEGITIMATE issues are raised that challenges the "system". I guess when they say that a STRONG black male voice is intimidating to whites, this is what they mean. Keep proving my point for me. I'll resume to respond to INTELLIGENT comments from others, even if I disagree with them.<<

Larry Elder, a black conservative talk host, has done very well for himself hosting PM drive on KABC in Los Angeles for the past 10 years. He has also been syndicated by ABC for the last 5.

Similarly, Ken Hamblin was very successful as a nationally syndicated black conservative talk host.

What is your explanation for these? Are they more talented than you, or [EDIT]?

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