I receive between 25 and 30 DTV channels. That seems pretty good since I sometimes hear of people only being about to pick up three or four channels. However I know there are certain hotspots where people can pick up 40 or 50 channels. Does anyone know the best place to live to get the most free TV?
-
Get involved.
We want your input!
Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.
After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.
After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/
Thanks in advance and have fun!
RadioDiscussions Administrators
In what location can you receive the most "Over the air' channels?
- Thread starter Skynet74
- Start date
25 to 30 digital TV channels...are you counting sub channels? Here in New Britain, CT, if I found a "sweet spot" to pick up channels 3, 8, 18, 20, 24, 26, 30, 59 and 61, I considered it as receiving 9 channels. However, channel 3 (as an example) also uses 3-2, 3-3 and 3-4, while channel 30 (as an example) also uses 30-2 and 30-3.
If I count the subchannels of stations I do receive, then it's 39 (not counting WLS-TV, which broadcasts both on RF 7 & RF 44, & both have virtual channels 7.1, 7.2, & 7.3 & WCIU, which also has 23.1 tied to 26.2 & 48.1 tied to 26.3 ) (Replace the . with a - if your TV or DTV box uses a - )
I should mention this is the Chicago market I'm talking about, & from my location in Gary Indiana. WGN-TV has 1 subchannel, but LATV has been removed from their subchannel, & it's now on WOCK-CD. That's been discussed on another messageboard. WYCC simulcasts 20.1 on 20.2 & WYIN still simulcasts 56.1 on 56.2 & 56.4. WYIN added about a month ago PBS Kids Go on 56.3. Some DTV tuners can pickup WPWR-TV's mobile TV channel 51.6, which shows a weather radar. My DTV tuner in my DTV box doesn't pick it up, & refuses to recognize 51.6 as a legitimate channel. So I don't count that one on my end.
I don't get WOCK-CD because the power is too weak to receive that channel (300 watts, or 405 watts, whichever it is now), WPVN-LD because it's too far north of Chicago to receive, & WWTO because the station is too far from most of Chicagoland that most people don't get this station at all (not that I care). So those 3 stations aren't included in my figure. Here's what I get: Note: all channels are 480i & 4:3 unless noted. All noted 720p & 1080i channels are 16:9
VC RF
WBBM-TV (1080i) 2.1 12
WMAQ (1080i) 5.1 29
Weather radar 5.2 29
Universal Sports 5.3 29
WLS-TV (720p) 7.1 7 & 44 (RF 44 is now the main channel while RF 7 is a translator until 44 is ready for primetime)
Livewell HD (720p) 7.2 7 & 44
Accuweather 7.3 7 & 44
WGN-TV (1080i) 9.1 19
? (formerly LATV) 9.2 19
WTTW (1080i) 11.1 47
WTTW Prime 11.2 47
Create 11.3 47
V-Me 11.4 47
WYCC (1080i) 20.1 21
WYCC in SD 20.2 21
MHZ Worldview 20.3 21
WWME-LD 23.2 39 (sometimes get this one)
WCIU (720p) 26.1 27
WWME-LD (MeTV) 23.1/26.2 27
WMEU-CA (MeToo) 26.3/48.1 27
This TV 26.4 27
FBT 26.6 27
WFLD 32.1 31
WCPX (720p) 38.1 43
Qubo 38.2 43
Ion Life 38.3 43
WSNS (1080i) 44.1 45
Inmi TV 44.2 45
WPWR-TV (720p) 50.1 51
WYIN (720p) 56.1 17
WYIN (720p) 56.2 17 (simulcast of 56.1)
PBS Kids Go (16:9) 56.3 17
WYIN (16:9) 56.4 17 (simulcast of 56.1)
WXFT (1080i) 60.1 50
WXFT in SD 60.2 50
WJYS 62.1 36
WEDE-CA 62.2 36
WJYS-2 62.4 36
WGBO-DT (1080i) 66.1 38
Now if I lived in Porter County Indiana, I wouldn't get WWME-LD, but I would add the South Bend stations since the full power South Bend stations reach Porter County, & that would only be 5 stations (not counting any subchannels).
I should mention this is the Chicago market I'm talking about, & from my location in Gary Indiana. WGN-TV has 1 subchannel, but LATV has been removed from their subchannel, & it's now on WOCK-CD. That's been discussed on another messageboard. WYCC simulcasts 20.1 on 20.2 & WYIN still simulcasts 56.1 on 56.2 & 56.4. WYIN added about a month ago PBS Kids Go on 56.3. Some DTV tuners can pickup WPWR-TV's mobile TV channel 51.6, which shows a weather radar. My DTV tuner in my DTV box doesn't pick it up, & refuses to recognize 51.6 as a legitimate channel. So I don't count that one on my end.
I don't get WOCK-CD because the power is too weak to receive that channel (300 watts, or 405 watts, whichever it is now), WPVN-LD because it's too far north of Chicago to receive, & WWTO because the station is too far from most of Chicagoland that most people don't get this station at all (not that I care). So those 3 stations aren't included in my figure. Here's what I get: Note: all channels are 480i & 4:3 unless noted. All noted 720p & 1080i channels are 16:9
VC RF
WBBM-TV (1080i) 2.1 12
WMAQ (1080i) 5.1 29
Weather radar 5.2 29
Universal Sports 5.3 29
WLS-TV (720p) 7.1 7 & 44 (RF 44 is now the main channel while RF 7 is a translator until 44 is ready for primetime)
Livewell HD (720p) 7.2 7 & 44
Accuweather 7.3 7 & 44
WGN-TV (1080i) 9.1 19
? (formerly LATV) 9.2 19
WTTW (1080i) 11.1 47
WTTW Prime 11.2 47
Create 11.3 47
V-Me 11.4 47
WYCC (1080i) 20.1 21
WYCC in SD 20.2 21
MHZ Worldview 20.3 21
WWME-LD 23.2 39 (sometimes get this one)
WCIU (720p) 26.1 27
WWME-LD (MeTV) 23.1/26.2 27
WMEU-CA (MeToo) 26.3/48.1 27
This TV 26.4 27
FBT 26.6 27
WFLD 32.1 31
WCPX (720p) 38.1 43
Qubo 38.2 43
Ion Life 38.3 43
WSNS (1080i) 44.1 45
Inmi TV 44.2 45
WPWR-TV (720p) 50.1 51
WYIN (720p) 56.1 17
WYIN (720p) 56.2 17 (simulcast of 56.1)
PBS Kids Go (16:9) 56.3 17
WYIN (16:9) 56.4 17 (simulcast of 56.1)
WXFT (1080i) 60.1 50
WXFT in SD 60.2 50
WJYS 62.1 36
WEDE-CA 62.2 36
WJYS-2 62.4 36
WGBO-DT (1080i) 66.1 38
Now if I lived in Porter County Indiana, I wouldn't get WWME-LD, but I would add the South Bend stations since the full power South Bend stations reach Porter County, & that would only be 5 stations (not counting any subchannels).
How about the top of Mount Washington?
Theoretically, you would be able to receive the Portland, Burlington, Boston, Bangor, Sherbrooke (Canada), and Montreal stations with a large, amplified, roof mounted antenna. However, there would be a good deal of signal overlap.
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id=9fbe185bc1da28
As a side note, here in RI, I get the Boston and Providence stations for a total of 16.
Theoretically, you would be able to receive the Portland, Burlington, Boston, Bangor, Sherbrooke (Canada), and Montreal stations with a large, amplified, roof mounted antenna. However, there would be a good deal of signal overlap.
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id=9fbe185bc1da28
As a side note, here in RI, I get the Boston and Providence stations for a total of 16.
Skynet74 said:
From 40 miles north of Dallas-Ft. Worth, I get a total of digital 66 streams (from 29 stations) OTA plus the 3 remaining analog facilities in the market.
tripinva said:
Trip is correct.
Latest scan on my set in the Los Ageles DMA shows a total of 95 (this includes subs)
Of those 95 I have deleted 71 channels because of foreign languages and/or Godcasters
Making a total of viewable channels for my personal preferences at 24.
Washington DC should be pretty good. You have DC and Baltimore close enough to each other. When I lived there in the dark ages, I could easily pick up all of both markets' analog signals, even poor ole' 45.
On top of Curry Hill in Fowlstown, GA (39819) I can pick strong signals from most of the stations from 5 markets. I can only get 20 stations without moving my antenna, but if I'm willing to move it that number goes up to about 50, all in English with only 1 religious station.
Most nights I can even pick up Mobile, Macon and Tampa. That's when the Spanish and religious stations start coming in.
And I'm only using a 25 year old VHF rooftop YAGI with a new RG-6 coax. No amps.
Most nights I can even pick up Mobile, Macon and Tampa. That's when the Spanish and religious stations start coming in.
And I'm only using a 25 year old VHF rooftop YAGI with a new RG-6 coax. No amps.
JeeperOne
Banned
Here in Denver, we get the following subchannels in addition to the main channels.....
KWGN 2 (CW) - None offered (Although Tube TV was offered here before it shut down)
KCDO 3 (Retro TV) None offered (Not surprising since the station's COL is Sterling, CO & the local 10:00 PM news is imported from IA by way of KGWN 5 (CBS) Cheyenne, WY)
KCNC 4 (CBS) - None offered (CBS doesn't believe in them)
KRMA 6 (PBS) - All PBS HD subchannels (All simulcast on Comcast Digital Cable)
KMGH 7 (ABC) - 7-2 NewsChannel 247 (A 24/7 loop of latest local newscast -Also simulcast on Comcast Digital Cable Channel 247)
KUSA 9 (NBC) - 9.2 9NEWS WeatherPlus (Complete with the old WeatherPlus logo) & 9.3 Universal Sports (Both simulcast on Comcast Digital Cable Channels 249 & 250 respectively)
KBDI 12 (PBS) Several HD offerings (NOT simulcast on Comcast)
KTFD 14 (TeleFutura) Unsure
KTVD 20 (MyNetwork TV) None offered
KDEN 25 (Telemundo) Unsure
KZCO 27 (Azteca) Unsure
KDVR 31 (Fox) None offered
KRMT 41 (Daystar) Unsure
KCEC 50 (Univision) Unsure
KWHD 53 (Independent) Unsure
KPXC 59 (ION) Usual ION fare (Not simulcast on Comcast however)
All this adds up to.....
PRIMARY CHANNELS 16
SECONDARY SUBCANNELS 5 Confirmed but is no doubt significantly higher when you throw in all the offerings by KRMA 6, KBDI 12 & KPXC 59 as well)
Cheers
KWGN 2 (CW) - None offered (Although Tube TV was offered here before it shut down)
KCDO 3 (Retro TV) None offered (Not surprising since the station's COL is Sterling, CO & the local 10:00 PM news is imported from IA by way of KGWN 5 (CBS) Cheyenne, WY)
KCNC 4 (CBS) - None offered (CBS doesn't believe in them)
KRMA 6 (PBS) - All PBS HD subchannels (All simulcast on Comcast Digital Cable)
KMGH 7 (ABC) - 7-2 NewsChannel 247 (A 24/7 loop of latest local newscast -Also simulcast on Comcast Digital Cable Channel 247)
KUSA 9 (NBC) - 9.2 9NEWS WeatherPlus (Complete with the old WeatherPlus logo) & 9.3 Universal Sports (Both simulcast on Comcast Digital Cable Channels 249 & 250 respectively)
KBDI 12 (PBS) Several HD offerings (NOT simulcast on Comcast)
KTFD 14 (TeleFutura) Unsure
KTVD 20 (MyNetwork TV) None offered
KDEN 25 (Telemundo) Unsure
KZCO 27 (Azteca) Unsure
KDVR 31 (Fox) None offered
KRMT 41 (Daystar) Unsure
KCEC 50 (Univision) Unsure
KWHD 53 (Independent) Unsure
KPXC 59 (ION) Usual ION fare (Not simulcast on Comcast however)
All this adds up to.....
PRIMARY CHANNELS 16
SECONDARY SUBCANNELS 5 Confirmed but is no doubt significantly higher when you throw in all the offerings by KRMA 6, KBDI 12 & KPXC 59 as well)
Cheers
Toronto has to be one the most unique situations in the broadcasting world, other than some European countries, where not only do they get their own local broadcast fare but stations from another country. From what I can read, signals from Buffalo can reach that city without much difficulty, save for the Batavia ION station. In some areas, people have trouble receiving the local NBC and FOX stations. With tropo, Torontonians could receive stations from Erie, Cleveland, Syracuse, Rochester and even from places like Pittsburgh, Youngstown and Detroit. Compared with them, Montreal and Vancouver don't enjoy nearly as much access to American stations because of topography and signal strength.
This is what I see as the Toronto OTA lineup:
WGRZ (NBC) Buffalo - 2.1, 2.2 (Universal Sports) and 2.3 (RTN)
WIVB (CBS) Buffalo - 4.1, no subchannels, obviously
CBLT (CBC) Toronto - 5.1, also has analog 5 until 8/2011
WKBW (ABC) Buffalo - 7.1, no subchannels
CFTO (CTV) Toronto - 9.1, analog 9 until 8/2011
CHCH Hamilton - 11.1, analog 11 until 8/2011
WNED (PBS) Buffalo - 17.1, 17.2 (PBS-SD), 17.3 (Thinkbright)
CICA (TVO) Toronto - 19 analog, will switch to digital in 2011
WNLO (CW) Buffalo - 23.1, no subchannels
CBLFT (SRC) Toronto - 25.1, analog 25 until 8/2011
WNYB (TCT) Jamestown - 26.1, 26.2 (TCT-HD)
WUTV (Fox) Buffalo - 29.1, supposedly TheCoolTV will be on 29.2 soon
CIII-TV-41 (Global) Toronto - 41.1, 41 analog until 8/2011
CFMT (Omni) Toronto - 47.1, 47 analog until 8/2011
WNYO (MNTV) Buffalo - 49.1, 49.2 (MNTV-SD)
CKXT (Sun TV) Toronto - 52.1, 52 analog until 8/2011
CITY (CityTV) Toronto - 57.1, 57 analog until 8/2011
CJMT (Omni-2) Toronto - 69.1, 69 analog until 8/2011
I'm not including the ION station in Batavia, which is Tropo-only for Toronto, the low-power stations nor WNGS, which is still in the middle of sorting itself out.
Some Canadians even prefer watching American stations over the air because of the programming choices and no simsubbing.
Windsor is even in more of a weird situation because all the stations from Detroit and Toledo blast into the area and there are only a few Canadian stations available.
This is what I see as the Toronto OTA lineup:
WGRZ (NBC) Buffalo - 2.1, 2.2 (Universal Sports) and 2.3 (RTN)
WIVB (CBS) Buffalo - 4.1, no subchannels, obviously
CBLT (CBC) Toronto - 5.1, also has analog 5 until 8/2011
WKBW (ABC) Buffalo - 7.1, no subchannels
CFTO (CTV) Toronto - 9.1, analog 9 until 8/2011
CHCH Hamilton - 11.1, analog 11 until 8/2011
WNED (PBS) Buffalo - 17.1, 17.2 (PBS-SD), 17.3 (Thinkbright)
CICA (TVO) Toronto - 19 analog, will switch to digital in 2011
WNLO (CW) Buffalo - 23.1, no subchannels
CBLFT (SRC) Toronto - 25.1, analog 25 until 8/2011
WNYB (TCT) Jamestown - 26.1, 26.2 (TCT-HD)
WUTV (Fox) Buffalo - 29.1, supposedly TheCoolTV will be on 29.2 soon
CIII-TV-41 (Global) Toronto - 41.1, 41 analog until 8/2011
CFMT (Omni) Toronto - 47.1, 47 analog until 8/2011
WNYO (MNTV) Buffalo - 49.1, 49.2 (MNTV-SD)
CKXT (Sun TV) Toronto - 52.1, 52 analog until 8/2011
CITY (CityTV) Toronto - 57.1, 57 analog until 8/2011
CJMT (Omni-2) Toronto - 69.1, 69 analog until 8/2011
I'm not including the ION station in Batavia, which is Tropo-only for Toronto, the low-power stations nor WNGS, which is still in the middle of sorting itself out.
Some Canadians even prefer watching American stations over the air because of the programming choices and no simsubbing.
Windsor is even in more of a weird situation because all the stations from Detroit and Toledo blast into the area and there are only a few Canadian stations available.
JeeperOne
Banned
To complete my earlier post, here's a complete breakdown of the channels available here.....
KWGN 2 (CW) NO SUBCHANNELS
KCDO 3 (Retro TV) NO SUBCHANNELS
KCNC 4 (CBS) NO SUBCHANNELS (CBS doesn't believe in them!)
KRMA 6 (PBS) 6.2 V-Me 6.3 PBS Create 6.4 Reading (Audio Only) (All except 6.4 simulcast on Comcast Digital Cable)
KMGH 7 (ABC) 7.2 KZCO-SD (Azteca America) (This can't be right)
KUSA 9 (NBC) 9.2 9NEWS WeatherPlus (Complete with the old WeatherPlus logo) 9.3 Universal Sports (Both simulcast on Comcast Digital Cable Channels 249 & 250 repectively)
KBDI 12 (PBS) 12.2 Documentary Channel 12.3 World View (Foreign Programs) (Part of PBS?) (None simulcast on Comcast)
KTFD 14 (TeleFutura) NO SUBCHANNELS
KTVD 20 (MyNetwork TV) NO SUBCHANNELS
KDEO 23 (EWTN) 23.2 MyFamily TV (Classic TV/Local Programming) 23.3 EWTN 2 (Spanish Religion) 23.4 V I D A (Spanish Religion) (EWTN National is the only feed carried on Comcast & Satellite)
KDEN 25 (Telemundo) NO SUBCHANNELS (This is the CORRECT listing for KDEN)
======================================
KDEN 28 28.1 HSN (24/7 Home Shopping) 28.2 MTV/TR3s (English/Spanish Music Videos) 28.4 TV FE (Spanish Religion) (This listing CANNOT be right as only ONE station can hold the KDEN call)
======================================
KDVR 31 (Fox) NO SUBCHANNELS
KRMT 41 (Daystar) NO SUBCHANNELS
KCEC 50 (Univision) 50.2 LATV (Spanish)
KWHD 53 (Independent) NO SUBCHANNELS (Although 53.2 supposedly simulcasts 53.1)
KPXC 59 (ION) Usual ION fare
TOTALS:
Main Channels - 17 (16 IF you DO NOT count KDEN being on 28)
Subchannels - 17 (14 IF you DO NOT count KDEN being on 28 & 53.2 simulcasting 53.1)
====================================================
TOTAL CHANNELS ON DENVER OTA HDTV - 31
Source is here
Cheers ;D
KWGN 2 (CW) NO SUBCHANNELS
KCDO 3 (Retro TV) NO SUBCHANNELS
KCNC 4 (CBS) NO SUBCHANNELS (CBS doesn't believe in them!)
KRMA 6 (PBS) 6.2 V-Me 6.3 PBS Create 6.4 Reading (Audio Only) (All except 6.4 simulcast on Comcast Digital Cable)
KMGH 7 (ABC) 7.2 KZCO-SD (Azteca America) (This can't be right)
KUSA 9 (NBC) 9.2 9NEWS WeatherPlus (Complete with the old WeatherPlus logo) 9.3 Universal Sports (Both simulcast on Comcast Digital Cable Channels 249 & 250 repectively)
KBDI 12 (PBS) 12.2 Documentary Channel 12.3 World View (Foreign Programs) (Part of PBS?) (None simulcast on Comcast)
KTFD 14 (TeleFutura) NO SUBCHANNELS
KTVD 20 (MyNetwork TV) NO SUBCHANNELS
KDEO 23 (EWTN) 23.2 MyFamily TV (Classic TV/Local Programming) 23.3 EWTN 2 (Spanish Religion) 23.4 V I D A (Spanish Religion) (EWTN National is the only feed carried on Comcast & Satellite)
KDEN 25 (Telemundo) NO SUBCHANNELS (This is the CORRECT listing for KDEN)
======================================
KDEN 28 28.1 HSN (24/7 Home Shopping) 28.2 MTV/TR3s (English/Spanish Music Videos) 28.4 TV FE (Spanish Religion) (This listing CANNOT be right as only ONE station can hold the KDEN call)
======================================
KDVR 31 (Fox) NO SUBCHANNELS
KRMT 41 (Daystar) NO SUBCHANNELS
KCEC 50 (Univision) 50.2 LATV (Spanish)
KWHD 53 (Independent) NO SUBCHANNELS (Although 53.2 supposedly simulcasts 53.1)
KPXC 59 (ION) Usual ION fare
TOTALS:
Main Channels - 17 (16 IF you DO NOT count KDEN being on 28)
Subchannels - 17 (14 IF you DO NOT count KDEN being on 28 & 53.2 simulcasting 53.1)
====================================================
TOTAL CHANNELS ON DENVER OTA HDTV - 31
Source is here
Cheers ;D
When I asked the question.. YES I also met sub channels. I am including everything. After my TV is done scanning I always end up with at least 25 channels. The other night conditions were favorable and that number went up to 35 channels. I was getting the three Ion stations from three different markets for a total of 9 channels.
- Status