Independent Rock Station in DALLAS!!!! YES ITS TRUE!!!!

[TrafficDude1970]

Re: Doc

> > >
> > >
> > > Actually, hell is doing traffic, DUDE!
> > >
> > > Or purgatory ...
> > >
> > > Ask the space cadet, if you know whom I mean, and I
> think
> > > you do .
> > >
> > Buc..er um Trafficdude know's that. On second thought,
> > NAAAH.
>
>
> Come on, come on!
>
> Come clean ... you know the BUTT of the matter.



Notice how many people read the latest posts from batman and kplexcomplex in this thread. haa..haa
>
<P ID="signature">______________
If you can deliver pizza, you can deliver the traffic </P>

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Re: Doc

> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually, hell is doing traffic, DUDE!
> > > >
> > > > Or purgatory ...
> > > >
> > > > Ask the space cadet, if you know whom I mean, and I
> > think
> > > > you do .
> > > >
> > > Buc..er um Trafficdude know's that. On second thought,
> > > NAAAH.
> >
> >
> > Come on, come on!
> >
> > Come clean ... you know the BUTT of the matter.
>
>
>
> Notice how many people read the latest posts from batman and
> kplexcomplex in this thread. haa..haa


Dude: "Bucky" Yeah we sure do. We also notice how many times you change your name especially when one of your Nics gets banned. Kinda like your employment record. Still trying for KLUV? Pete had that "are you kidding?" look when asked.

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Re: Rock, religion & radio! Whoopee!

Reason says
> there's a tornado coming down main street, and people could
> get killed. Rules say "we play ten in a row, and don't break
> format even for a tornado warning no matter what unless you
> want to get fired" (which actually happened here in DFW
> several years ago, for those new to the area).

That was Ken Baker at "Warm 97" in the late 80's I believe. The Twister touched down around Joe Pool Lake. Minimum damage.The PD told him "We are not in the News business" Baker ( being a former News person at WFAA-AM, Newstalk 57) Informed The PD "We are obligated to inform and serve the community" The PD said "We are a music station,if people wanted to know the weather,they would listen elsewhere" Ken then got up and quit. He later resurfaced at KERA-FM. Last I heard he left the business as so many really good people do,and went into public relations.

 

[BrainDeadPrez]

Re: Rock, religion & radio! Whoopee!

You about got it. But it was in the waning days of KZEW, and Ken's quote to the PD was, "If I waited until the next break to give the warning, I'd be reporting the names of the dead," or something like that. Yes, he did indeed quit on his own. That was in the horrible Anchor Media days there, which no one seems to remember fondly, especially since they turned The Zoo into classic rock, split up and later fired LaBella and Rody, then changed to the saccharine "Warm" and "Lite" formats.

Ken Baker = Ken Bateman, far as I know. Bateman cut his teeth on rock in Dallas with Jon Dillon over at the old KFAD and its successors.

> Reason says
> > there's a tornado coming down main street, and people
> could
> > get killed. Rules say "we play ten in a row, and don't
> break
> > format even for a tornado warning no matter what unless
> you
> > want to get fired" (which actually happened here in DFW
> > several years ago, for those new to the area).
>
> That was Ken Baker at "Warm 97" in the late 80's I believe.
> The Twister touched down around Joe Pool Lake. Minimum
> damage.The PD told him "We are not in the News business"
> Baker ( being a former News person at WFAA-AM, Newstalk 57)
> Informed The PD "We are obligated to inform and serve the
> community" The PD said "We are a music station,if people
> wanted to know the weather,they would listen elsewhere" Ken
> then got up and quit. He later resurfaced at KERA-FM. Last I
> heard he left the business as so many really good people
> do,and went into public relations.
>

 

[rbrucecarter]

Unmasked!

> Exactly. Thank you, Bruce Carter for showing exactly what
> rubs us the wrong way about holier-than-thou Christianists.

Wow! I smoked out three anti-Christian bigots with only one post. Better than I could have hoped for!

Fortunately for the rest of us, the opinions of bigots are worthless, and can be ignored.

 

[Phantom]

Re: Doc

> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually, hell is doing traffic, DUDE!
> > > >
> > > > Or purgatory ...
> > > >
> > > > Ask the space cadet, if you know whom I mean, and I
> > think
> > > > you do .
> > > >
> > > Buc..er um Trafficdude know's that. On second thought,
> > > NAAAH.
> >
> >
> > Come on, come on!
> >
> > Come clean ... you know the BUTT of the matter.
>
>
>
> Notice how many people read the latest posts from batman and
> kplexcomplex in this thread. haa..haa


Yeah, it's pitiful ... just two ahead of you traffic dude.

But I like to talk to myself. At least someone intelligent is listening.

And it's The Batman, not Batman.

 

[Phantom]

Re: Doc

> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, hell is doing traffic, DUDE!
> > > > >
> > > > > Or purgatory ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Ask the space cadet, if you know whom I mean, and I
> > > think
> > > > > you do .
> > > > >
> > > > Buc..er um Trafficdude know's that. On second thought,
>
> > > > NAAAH.
> > >
> > >
> > > Come on, come on!
> > >
> > > Come clean ... you know the BUTT of the matter.
> >
> >
> >
> > Notice how many people read the latest posts from batman
> and
> > kplexcomplex in this thread. haa..haa
>
>
> Dude: "Bucky" Yeah we sure do. We also notice how many times
> you change your name especially when one of your Nics gets
> banned. Kinda like your employment record. Still trying for
> KLUV? Pete had that "are you kidding?" look when asked.


Oh man. You mean THE Z MAN?

He is the hippest of the hip.

He is HEAVY, but again ... not my brother.

 

[Phantom]

Re: Unmasked!

> > Exactly. Thank you, Bruce Carter for showing exactly what
>
> > rubs us the wrong way about holier-than-thou
> Christianists.
>
> Wow! I smoked out three anti-Christian bigots with only one
> post. Better than I could have hoped for!
>
> Fortunately for the rest of us, the opinions of bigots are
> worthless, and can be ignored.


Well that was sure a Christ-like post Brucie.

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Re: Unmasked!

> > > Exactly. Thank you, Bruce Carter for showing exactly
> what
> >
> > > rubs us the wrong way about holier-than-thou
> > Christianists.
> >
> > Wow! I smoked out three anti-Christian bigots with only
> one
> > post. Better than I could have hoped for!
> >
> > Fortunately for the rest of us, the opinions of bigots are
>
> > worthless, and can be ignored.
>
>
> Well that was sure a Christ-like post Brucie.
>
"Anti-Christian bigots"? Hardly. I believe The Batman and radio6 will agree with me,we are Christians,just not intolerant to differing opinions as yourself Bruce. Close minded Christians have such a delightful history. Let me give you a few examples; The (BLEEP)(used burning crosses by the way)Hitler (who blamed Jews for killing Christ and monopolizing the world) and used Crosses to exploit his cause at the Nuremburg rally of 1936.That's only two but it drives home the message of Proclaiming to being a close minded Christian plus being intolerant to other's beliefs and opinions.

 

[rbrucecarter]

Re: Unmasked!

I think it is rather a stretch to make broad sweeping statements about my tolerance - or lack thereof - on the basis of:

I listen to Power-FM
I am a Christian
I support the President of the United States

That list doesn't seem to qualify me for the type of villification I have received. Granted, anybody that would create an ID like "braindeadprez" is going to react rather strongly against somebody that supports the president, and I rather expect grandiose leaps of illogical conclusions from him based on his bias against George W. Bush. Some of the others, though, I guess are just as biased against the President, and will continue to make value judgements about a person's whole life based on his support, or non-support of the president.

Gosh, people, the elections were in 2000 and 2004 - get over it - the democrats lost those, Bush can't run again anyway so what's the stinkin' point? Go out and campaign now for Hilary, I am sure she will tax you enough to satisfy even the most liberal among you. Me, personally, I like the money I earned to stay in my wallet.

 

[edwardrmurrow]

Re: Unmasked!

> I think it is rather a stretch to make broad sweeping
> statements about my tolerance - or lack thereof - on the
> basis of:
>
> I listen to Power-FM
> I am a Christian
> I support the President of the United States
>
> That list doesn't seem to qualify me for the type of
> villification I have received. Granted, anybody that would
> create an ID like "braindeadprez" is going to react rather
> strongly against somebody that supports the president, and I
> rather expect grandiose leaps of illogical conclusions from
> him based on his bias against George W. Bush. Some of the
> others, though, I guess are just as biased against the
> President, and will continue to make value judgements about
> a person's whole life based on his support, or non-support
> of the president.
>
> Gosh, people, the elections were in 2000 and 2004 - get over
> it - the democrats lost those, Bush can't run again anyway
> so what's the stinkin' point? Go out and campaign now for
> Hilary, I am sure she will tax you enough to satisfy even
> the most liberal among you. Me, personally, I like the
> money I earned to stay in my wallet.
>
Bruce: What does your diatribe have to do with being a Christian? It would be more suitable if you just said you are a hard core republican. Then again that would be a completely different topic thread. I believe they were commenting on your narrow focus of what a Christian is supposed to be. Personally I don't care what your political leanings are. You seem to be guilty of what you accuse others of,intolerance. Do I hear an amen?

 

[dean1]

Re: Enough of the preaching JD the DJ ... geez

Just sound thinking, which didn't originate with me by any means. Simply a matter of serving the customer - a premise which crosses all philosophical and professional lines. It's the parallels I find fascinating, since the concept appears to work no matter the arena.

Besides...had it been Theology 101, I would have footnoted the texts

> Geez whiz, JD the DJ ...
>
> This a RADIO board ... not Theology 101 by Marconi's
> disciples.
>
>
>
> > This is the kind of thread I usually only get at the
> dinner
> > table.
> >
> > Coupla things:
> >
> > Not all the Pharisees were hypocrites. Nicodemus and
> Joseph
> > of Arimithea come quickly to mind. Paul called himself a
> > "Pharisee of Pharisees", and although he was wrongheaded
> > prior to his conversion, he was far from two-faced. In
> fact,
> > Jesus himself said that if one wanted to measure his or
> her
> > goodness by the ability to abide rules, then that person
> had
> > better be better at following rules than the Pharisees
> > themselves - who came up with 39 different definitions of
> > "work" based on just one verse from Exodus. Today, these
> > people would work in HR.
> >
> > All but one of the main male disciples were hypocrites, or
>
> > worse...and John didn't demonstrate much spine until
> showing
> > up at the cross when every other male disciple ran for
> their
> > lives. Matthew was a Roman collaborator. Simon Zealotus
> was
> > likely an assassin. James and John were ambitious
> hotheads.
> > Peter had trouble with moral consistency almost till the
> day
> > he died. Even Jesus' own brothers didn't believe in him
> > until after Christ's resurrection, and then apparently
> only
> > two of them. Putting it bluntly, they were all a mess.
> > Today, these people would be program directors and
> > consultants.
> >
> > Stay with me.
> >
> > The only individual who had the guts (or foolishness) to
> > actually go first to the cemetery in person was Magdalene,
>
> > whom John says went alone and in the dark. It wasn't about
>
> > research or surveys. It was about something much deeper.
> > Today, Magdalene would be...alone. Just like then. But
> guess
> > who the Bible says Jesus appeared to first?
> >
> > Here's the point - whether we're talking about rock,
> radio,
> > or religion...the same concepts apply. It ain't about
> rules.
> > Never has been. If it was, Paul would have called the
> > idolatrous Athenians idiots and the Christians at Galatia
> > religious...instead of the other way around. Rules get
> > people killed, or at least make them feel discouraged or
> > hopeless...which is pretty much the same thing as dead.
> > Folks who walk into a church and encounter rules they can
> > never live up to walk away. Folks who walk into a church
> and
> > find mercy and compassion stay...and find themselves
> living
> > differently. To paraphrase Jesus, "Love God, and love each
>
> > other. Everything else hinges on these two commandments."
> So
> > it's about relationship, not rules. Get the first one
> right,
> > and the rest will follow. Get the first one wrong, and
> > nothing else will work.
> >
> > Which pretty much describes the state of radio and rock.
> The
> > pioneers and innovators in those two fields took chances
> > (which churches are also supposed to do). The broke
> > boundaries and went with their hearts. They combined
> genres
> > and artforms. That's as hard to do in a church as it is in
>
> > an industry that has "preferred vendors" from whom you
> must
> > buy your TV spots or t-shirts. Life gets sucked out of the
>
> > equation because rules are paramount - and easier for
> those
> > who make them. Jesus said that he is all anyone needs.
> Rules
> > say "that's fine, but here's everything else we think you
> > should do so we'll know whether you measure up". Reason
> says
> > there's a tornado coming down main street, and people
> could
> > get killed. Rules say "we play ten in a row, and don't
> break
> > format even for a tornado warning no matter what unless
> you
> > want to get fired" (which actually happened here in DFW
> > several years ago, for those new to the area).
> >
> > This happens because those who make the rules forget what
> > the point is in the first place.
> >
> > While I might not agree with what you appreciate as good
> > music, good formatics, or good liturgy, I must appreciate
> > you. Rules negate that. They may be very good rules, but
> > eventually human nature will rely on quantification
> through
> > rules rather than empathetic relationship - which is
> > necessary to a healthy church, radio station, piece of
> > music, or heart. Once we apprehend that idea, things
> change.
> > Churches stop running hurting people off. Radio gets
> > creative and vibrant again. Music reaches people, by
> > speaking to and for them. Whether something is
> commercially
> > viable or profitable is no longer an imperative. What
> > matters is whether it creates relationship. Forget the
> > dogma, the preacher, the sign outside, the format, the
> > genre, or the "rules". Does what we do offer cool water to
>
> > the thirsty? Oddly, doing that also works out very well
> for
> > the person with the canteen. Maybe not always in the
> > short-term. In fact, that kind of thinking can get a
> person
> > crucified. But would you rather have things go wrong in
> the
> > presence of honor, or right in its absence?
> >
> > The Gospel survives in spite of its flawed disciples and
> our
> > doctrines for precisely the same reason Magdalene went to
> a
> > grave in the dark. Radio at its best will survive because
> > somewhere out there, there are still one or two folks who
> > make Richard Dreyfuss wanna drive out to the station to
> meet
> > Wolfman in the middle of the night. Music will survive
> > because some 14-year-old kid out there still dreams of
> doing
> > things no one has ever done with an E-slide, and not
> whether
> > his work will "sell". Watching such foolishness confound
> > worldy wisdom is part of what makes life so much fun...at
> > least for me. It drives the rule-makers nuts.
> >
> > One other, less lengthy note: Personally, I don't think
> God
> > sees red and blue states. I think he sees us in a fallen
> > state, and it grieved him enough to do something about it.
>
> > Thankfully when these former things ultimately pass away,
> > our politics, idols, opinions, high-places, sanctimony and
>
> > self-satisfaction will also go in the trash. Heaven is not
> a
> > Norman Rockwell painting, only with no taxes or liberals.
> > It's where the things that break hearts and divide people
> > are not.
> >
> > I would also add that whenever American Christians
> encounter
> > what they believe to be persecution, we ought to reflect
> on
> > what our friends in other countries and times have had to
> > endure. The fact is that persecution has always spread the
>
> > Gospel, which never would have left the Jerusalem city
> > limits had its earliest adherents not been permitted to
> feel
> > very, um...uncomfortable. In any event, Believers are
> > commanded to give thanks in all things. Especially those
> > things that give a chance to show the world that we handle
>
> > things differently.
> >
> > If Jesus wouldn't give that ol' pervert Herod an earful,
> > maybe we shouldn't be so quick to squeal.
> >
> > What fun.
> >
> > Jody
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > I read this board a lot and never post, but I have
> > > noticed
> > > >
> > > > > that we all keep complaining on how there are not
> any
> > > good
> > > >
> > > > > rock stations in DFW since the Eagle left.
> > > > >
> > > > > May I remind you that we have an independent radio
> > > station
> > > >
> > > > > here in Dallas. KVRK, 89.7 Power FM. Yes it is
> > > Christian
> > > >
> > > > > Rock, but its better than the stuff thats played on
> > > > > corporate radio, that we always complain about.
> > Having
> > > > > worked as a vollenteer at Power FM,and being on
> their
> >
> > > > > street team, I know that they REALLY DO CARE about
> > their
> > >
> > > > > listeners, and will even play a song request when
> you
> > > call
> > > >
> > > > > in and request it unlike the other stations.
> > > > >
> > > > > Power FM is a rimshot station and their coverage
> area
> > is
> > >
> > > > > similar to that of the old EDGE when it was at 94.5.
>
> > > THIS
> > > >
> > > > > STATION IS NOT THE SAME AS KLTY. Power FM plays
> some
> > > > great
> > > > > Christian alternative, rock, and even metal. Try it
>
> > > > out!!!!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > No offence mate, but until I hear some good, secular
> > Indie
> > >
> > > > or AAA stuff, I'm not interested. Thank goodness for
> > > SIRIUS.
> > > > I don't even bother with AM/FM anymore!
> > > >
> > > > Whatever happened to KTCU putting a translator in
> > Dallas?
> > > I
> > > > swore I read that was happening somewhere... The
> Choice
> > > used
> > > > to play some quality Indie stuff.
> > > >
> > > I would love for Power FM to upgrade their signal,
> nobody
> > > here in Dallas plays Bleach, Pillar etc.
> > >
> >
>

 

[dbryce]

Re: Doc

I didn't mean to go on a tangent of Biblical beliefs. I was using a little satire for humor.

God likes the Presbyterians more because they cause less trouble and bring a covered dish would be an example.

As for what I really believe? I don't even know anymore. Maybe it's a state of dream. I'll be spinning real records at that 100kw radio station in the sky with the voice I wish I always had. God gets more power than the terrestrial stations

When it comes to religion no mater what denomination, there's always going to be some agenda to push in a song. I just can't subscribe to it. For some reason, I can really get in to Country and Blues type gospel, but Christian Rap and Rock is missing something and I can't put my finger on it.

-Doc


> > I was once told that when I die, Jesus has a mansion in
> > place for me to live when I get to heaven. I grinned and
> > thought pleasant thoughts about how I get to garden in the
>
> > back. I was told there was no time for that because I'll
> be
> > praising God. I asked 24/7? Screw that, I'm going to
> hell.
> > They asked why on earth would I want to go to hell? I
> > replied where else can I drink beer, and see something
> > naked? There's no beer in heaven! I have to worship for
> an
> > eternity?
>
> Don't worry, Doc. If you become a Christian someday, you'll
> be allowed to enjoy a good brew. As for seeing something
> naked, the Christian answer to THAT is to find yourself a
> wife you REALLY like seeing naked. And then get naked with
> her as much as you want.
>
> And whoever was teaching you about Heaven should stick to
> teaching pre-school, because that was the kind of
> description you would offer a kid, not an adult. Bottom
> line: What awaits in Heaven is mostly a mystery. But you
> can rest assured that ALL your needs will be completely met.
> <P ID="signature">______________
Doc Bryce Everybody!</P>

 

[dbryce]

Re: Doc

No, I always knew that MY Hell would be chained to a wall being forced to listen to Barry Manalow for eternity.

As for praising Satan? Where did that come from? Did I leak something about worship?

Limbo's actually starting to sound like a great alternative!

-Doc



> Actually, he'll be praising Satan in hell. HIS hell will be
> NO beer, nude women, etc
> >
> <P ID="signature">______________
Doc Bryce Everybody!</P>

 

[dbryce]

Re: Doc

Traffic wasn't that bad.... It was like Limbo. It's a great place to hang out between gigs. Shelter from the storm.

I'd do Traffic again!

-Doc


>
>
> Actually, hell is doing traffic, DUDE!
>
> Or purgatory ...
>
> Ask the space cadet, if you know whom I mean, and I think
> you do .
> <P ID="signature">______________
Doc Bryce Everybody!</P>

 

[Phantom]

Bruce Bush ... I mean, Carter ... well, not Jimmy ... well you know

> I think it is rather a stretch to make broad sweeping
> statements about my tolerance - or lack thereof - on the
> basis of:
>
> I listen to Power-FM
> I am a Christian
> I support the President of the United States


No, actually most base it on your attacking others -- glass houses, the prostitute, etc.

Know what we mean Bruce, or not.

Most don't care what you listen to, whether are or are not a Christian or whether you support the president or not.



> That list doesn't seem to qualify me for the type of
> villification I have received.


No, it doesn't because that is not the list anyone is judging you by Bruce, but you just don't get it.


> Granted, anybody that would
> create an ID like "braindeadprez" is going to react rather
> strongly against somebody that supports the president, and I
> rather expect grandiose leaps of illogical conclusions from
> him based on his bias against George W. Bush.


Well, I wouldn't use that post name either. It is disrespectful.

Just as disrespectful as your referring to "Hillary" rather than Sen. Clinton below.


> Some of the
> others, though, I guess are just as biased against the
> President, and will continue to make value judgements about
> a person's whole life based on his support, or non-support
> of the president.


Bruce, that is about as unclear as mud.


> Gosh, people, the elections were in 2000 and 2004 - get over
> it - the democrats lost those,


Bruce, as much as you hate the term -- it's Democrats ... cap D.


>>Bush can't run again anyway


Another Master of the Obvious ...


so what's the stinkin' point? Go out and campaign now for
> Hilary,


It's Hillary Bruce -- double l.

And, I sure Rodham-Clinton drives you insane .


> Me, personally, I like the
> money I earned to stay in my wallet.


Well, with that deficit, this president is pickpocketing your children's and your grandchildren's pockets.

The biggest spending president in U.S. history -- no one is close.

But live for today, eh Bruce?

 

[Phantom]

Revelation ...

Thinking you are reading way too much into this, which is perfectly normal for someone who says he has just discovered religion, Christ, God", etc.

But to each his own.

Not sure Christ was into radio ... especially today .

Maybe He loves oldies though. Oops, you don't call them that anymore, do you? .

And thanks for skipping the footnotes

Next assignment: Interpret Revelation.

Yep, Revelation ... (no s on the end by the way).



> Just sound thinking, which didn't originate with me by any
> means. Simply a matter of serving the customer - a premise
> which crosses all philosophical and professional lines. It's
> the parallels I find fascinating, since the concept appears
> to work no matter the arena.
>
> Besides...had it been Theology 101, I would have footnoted
> the texts
>
> > Geez whiz, JD the DJ ...
> >
> > This a RADIO board ... not Theology 101 by Marconi's
> > disciples.
> >
> >
> >
> > > This is the kind of thread I usually only get at the
> > dinner
> > > table.
> > >
> > > Coupla things:
> > >
> > > Not all the Pharisees were hypocrites. Nicodemus and
> > Joseph
> > > of Arimithea come quickly to mind. Paul called himself a
>
> > > "Pharisee of Pharisees", and although he was wrongheaded
>
> > > prior to his conversion, he was far from two-faced. In
> > fact,
> > > Jesus himself said that if one wanted to measure his or
> > her
> > > goodness by the ability to abide rules, then that person
>
> > had
> > > better be better at following rules than the Pharisees
> > > themselves - who came up with 39 different definitions
> of
> > > "work" based on just one verse from Exodus. Today, these
>
> > > people would work in HR.
> > >
> > > All but one of the main male disciples were hypocrites,
> or
> >
> > > worse...and John didn't demonstrate much spine until
> > showing
> > > up at the cross when every other male disciple ran for
> > their
> > > lives. Matthew was a Roman collaborator. Simon Zealotus
> > was
> > > likely an assassin. James and John were ambitious
> > hotheads.
> > > Peter had trouble with moral consistency almost till the
>
> > day
> > > he died. Even Jesus' own brothers didn't believe in him
> > > until after Christ's resurrection, and then apparently
> > only
> > > two of them. Putting it bluntly, they were all a mess.
> > > Today, these people would be program directors and
> > > consultants.
> > >
> > > Stay with me.
> > >
> > > The only individual who had the guts (or foolishness) to
>
> > > actually go first to the cemetery in person was
> Magdalene,
> >
> > > whom John says went alone and in the dark. It wasn't
> about
> >
> > > research or surveys. It was about something much deeper.
>
> > > Today, Magdalene would be...alone. Just like then. But
> > guess
> > > who the Bible says Jesus appeared to first?
> > >
> > > Here's the point - whether we're talking about rock,
> > radio,
> > > or religion...the same concepts apply. It ain't about
> > rules.
> > > Never has been. If it was, Paul would have called the
> > > idolatrous Athenians idiots and the Christians at
> Galatia
> > > religious...instead of the other way around. Rules get
> > > people killed, or at least make them feel discouraged or
>
> > > hopeless...which is pretty much the same thing as dead.
> > > Folks who walk into a church and encounter rules they
> can
> > > never live up to walk away. Folks who walk into a church
>
> > and
> > > find mercy and compassion stay...and find themselves
> > living
> > > differently. To paraphrase Jesus, "Love God, and love
> each
> >
> > > other. Everything else hinges on these two
> commandments."
> > So
> > > it's about relationship, not rules. Get the first one
> > right,
> > > and the rest will follow. Get the first one wrong, and
> > > nothing else will work.
> > >
> > > Which pretty much describes the state of radio and rock.
>
> > The
> > > pioneers and innovators in those two fields took chances
>
> > > (which churches are also supposed to do). The broke
> > > boundaries and went with their hearts. They combined
> > genres
> > > and artforms. That's as hard to do in a church as it is
> in
> >
> > > an industry that has "preferred vendors" from whom you
> > must
> > > buy your TV spots or t-shirts. Life gets sucked out of
> the
> >
> > > equation because rules are paramount - and easier for
> > those
> > > who make them. Jesus said that he is all anyone needs.
> > Rules
> > > say "that's fine, but here's everything else we think
> you
> > > should do so we'll know whether you measure up". Reason
> > says
> > > there's a tornado coming down main street, and people
> > could
> > > get killed. Rules say "we play ten in a row, and don't
> > break
> > > format even for a tornado warning no matter what unless
> > you
> > > want to get fired" (which actually happened here in DFW
> > > several years ago, for those new to the area).
> > >
> > > This happens because those who make the rules forget
> what
> > > the point is in the first place.
> > >
> > > While I might not agree with what you appreciate as good
>
> > > music, good formatics, or good liturgy, I must
> appreciate
> > > you. Rules negate that. They may be very good rules, but
>
> > > eventually human nature will rely on quantification
> > through
> > > rules rather than empathetic relationship - which is
> > > necessary to a healthy church, radio station, piece of
> > > music, or heart. Once we apprehend that idea, things
> > change.
> > > Churches stop running hurting people off. Radio gets
> > > creative and vibrant again. Music reaches people, by
> > > speaking to and for them. Whether something is
> > commercially
> > > viable or profitable is no longer an imperative. What
> > > matters is whether it creates relationship. Forget the
> > > dogma, the preacher, the sign outside, the format, the
> > > genre, or the "rules". Does what we do offer cool water
> to
> >
> > > the thirsty? Oddly, doing that also works out very well
> > for
> > > the person with the canteen. Maybe not always in the
> > > short-term. In fact, that kind of thinking can get a
> > person
> > > crucified. But would you rather have things go wrong in
> > the
> > > presence of honor, or right in its absence?
> > >
> > > The Gospel survives in spite of its flawed disciples and
>
> > our
> > > doctrines for precisely the same reason Magdalene went
> to
> > a
> > > grave in the dark. Radio at its best will survive
> because
> > > somewhere out there, there are still one or two folks
> who
> > > make Richard Dreyfuss wanna drive out to the station to
> > meet
> > > Wolfman in the middle of the night. Music will survive
> > > because some 14-year-old kid out there still dreams of
> > doing
> > > things no one has ever done with an E-slide, and not
> > whether
> > > his work will "sell". Watching such foolishness confound
>
> > > worldy wisdom is part of what makes life so much
> fun...at
> > > least for me. It drives the rule-makers nuts.
> > >
> > > One other, less lengthy note: Personally, I don't think
> > God
> > > sees red and blue states. I think he sees us in a fallen
>
> > > state, and it grieved him enough to do something about
> it.
> >
> > > Thankfully when these former things ultimately pass
> away,
> > > our politics, idols, opinions, high-places, sanctimony
> and
> >
> > > self-satisfaction will also go in the trash. Heaven is
> not
> > a
> > > Norman Rockwell painting, only with no taxes or
> liberals.
> > > It's where the things that break hearts and divide
> people
> > > are not.
> > >
> > > I would also add that whenever American Christians
> > encounter
> > > what they believe to be persecution, we ought to reflect
>
> > on
> > > what our friends in other countries and times have had
> to
> > > endure. The fact is that persecution has always spread
> the
> >
> > > Gospel, which never would have left the Jerusalem city
> > > limits had its earliest adherents not been permitted to
> > feel
> > > very, um...uncomfortable. In any event, Believers are
> > > commanded to give thanks in all things. Especially those
>
> > > things that give a chance to show the world that we
> handle
> >
> > > things differently.
> > >
> > > If Jesus wouldn't give that ol' pervert Herod an earful,
>
> > > maybe we shouldn't be so quick to squeal.
> > >
> > > What fun.
> > >
> > > Jody
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > I read this board a lot and never post, but I have
>
> > > > noticed
> > > > >
> > > > > > that we all keep complaining on how there are not
> > any
> > > > good
> > > > >
> > > > > > rock stations in DFW since the Eagle left.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > May I remind you that we have an independent radio
>
> > > > station
> > > > >
> > > > > > here in Dallas. KVRK, 89.7 Power FM. Yes it is
> > > > Christian
> > > > >
> > > > > > Rock, but its better than the stuff thats played
> on
> > > > > > corporate radio, that we always complain about.
> > > Having
> > > > > > worked as a vollenteer at Power FM,and being on
> > their
> > >
> > > > > > street team, I know that they REALLY DO CARE about
>
> > > their
> > > >
> > > > > > listeners, and will even play a song request when
> > you
> > > > call
> > > > >
> > > > > > in and request it unlike the other stations.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Power FM is a rimshot station and their coverage
> > area
> > > is
> > > >
> > > > > > similar to that of the old EDGE when it was at
> 94.5.
> >
> > > > THIS
> > > > >
> > > > > > STATION IS NOT THE SAME AS KLTY. Power FM plays
> > some
> > > > > great
> > > > > > Christian alternative, rock, and even metal. Try
> it
> >
> > > > > out!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > No offence mate, but until I hear some good, secular
>
> > > Indie
> > > >
> > > > > or AAA stuff, I'm not interested. Thank goodness for
>
> > > > SIRIUS.
> > > > > I don't even bother with AM/FM anymore!
> > > > >
> > > > > Whatever happened to KTCU putting a translator in
> > > Dallas?
> > > > I
> > > > > swore I read that was happening somewhere... The
> > Choice
> > > > used
> > > > > to play some quality Indie stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > I would love for Power FM to upgrade their signal,
> > nobody
> > > > here in Dallas plays Bleach, Pillar etc.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

 

[dean1]

Re: You should know better

I get accused of doing that alot, Bat. Justifiably. But...

I didn't "just" discover religion. I grew up with, and it never did anything for me. What happened was that I discovered my own futility. No one gets treatment until they realize they have cancer. I had cancer of the soul. Still in treatment, and the damn stuff keeps wanting to come back. Thankfully, I know a very good doctor.

Since you put it out there, Jesus was into food, wine, arts & crafts, history, philosophy, politics, the law, fishing, and current events. Sounds like a natural for radio to me. I suspect he would have listened to Russ Martin.

No...we don't call them "oldies" any more. Not much chance of attracting a younger cume doing that.

Footnotes are too much trouble. Those who care either know where to look or will grab a concordance. Those who don't care couldn't care less.

As for Revelation, most say it was either written to the 1st Century church in code in order to confuse the Roman authority, or it's a roadmap of things to come. My personal view is that it's both. Like just about everything else in the Bible, its author and message exist outside of time...and therefore have application on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions.

Which is why I thought it might be fun to take the three different subjects that started in this thread and put them side by side. Not preaching. Just looking for a common solution to multiple problems.

Jody

> Thinking you are reading way too much into this, which is
> perfectly normal for someone who says he has just discovered
> religion, Christ, God", etc.
>
> But to each his own.
>
> Not sure Christ was into radio ... especially today .
>
> Maybe He loves oldies though. Oops, you don't call them
> that anymore, do you? .
>
> And thanks for skipping the footnotes
>
> Next assignment: Interpret Revelation.
>
> Yep, Revelation ... (no s on the end by the way).
>
>
>
> > Just sound thinking, which didn't originate with me by any
>
> > means. Simply a matter of serving the customer - a premise
>
> > which crosses all philosophical and professional lines.
> It's
> > the parallels I find fascinating, since the concept
> appears
> > to work no matter the arena.
> >
> > Besides...had it been Theology 101, I would have footnoted
>
> > the texts
> >
> > > Geez whiz, JD the DJ ...
> > >
> > > This a RADIO board ... not Theology 101 by Marconi's
> > > disciples.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is the kind of thread I usually only get at the
> > > dinner
> > > > table.
> > > >
> > > > Coupla things:
> > > >
> > > > Not all the Pharisees were hypocrites. Nicodemus and
> > > Joseph
> > > > of Arimithea come quickly to mind. Paul called himself
> a
> >
> > > > "Pharisee of Pharisees", and although he was
> wrongheaded
> >
> > > > prior to his conversion, he was far from two-faced. In
>
> > > fact,
> > > > Jesus himself said that if one wanted to measure his
> or
> > > her
> > > > goodness by the ability to abide rules, then that
> person
> >
> > > had
> > > > better be better at following rules than the Pharisees
>
> > > > themselves - who came up with 39 different definitions
>
> > of
> > > > "work" based on just one verse from Exodus. Today,
> these
> >
> > > > people would work in HR.
> > > >
> > > > All but one of the main male disciples were
> hypocrites,
> > or
> > >
> > > > worse...and John didn't demonstrate much spine until
> > > showing
> > > > up at the cross when every other male disciple ran for
>
> > > their
> > > > lives. Matthew was a Roman collaborator. Simon
> Zealotus
> > > was
> > > > likely an assassin. James and John were ambitious
> > > hotheads.
> > > > Peter had trouble with moral consistency almost till
> the
> >
> > > day
> > > > he died. Even Jesus' own brothers didn't believe in
> him
> > > > until after Christ's resurrection, and then apparently
>
> > > only
> > > > two of them. Putting it bluntly, they were all a mess.
>
> > > > Today, these people would be program directors and
> > > > consultants.
> > > >
> > > > Stay with me.
> > > >
> > > > The only individual who had the guts (or foolishness)
> to
> >
> > > > actually go first to the cemetery in person was
> > Magdalene,
> > >
> > > > whom John says went alone and in the dark. It wasn't
> > about
> > >
> > > > research or surveys. It was about something much
> deeper.
> >
> > > > Today, Magdalene would be...alone. Just like then. But
>
> > > guess
> > > > who the Bible says Jesus appeared to first?
> > > >
> > > > Here's the point - whether we're talking about rock,
> > > radio,
> > > > or religion...the same concepts apply. It ain't about
> > > rules.
> > > > Never has been. If it was, Paul would have called the
> > > > idolatrous Athenians idiots and the Christians at
> > Galatia
> > > > religious...instead of the other way around. Rules get
>
> > > > people killed, or at least make them feel discouraged
> or
> >
> > > > hopeless...which is pretty much the same thing as
> dead.
> > > > Folks who walk into a church and encounter rules they
> > can
> > > > never live up to walk away. Folks who walk into a
> church
> >
> > > and
> > > > find mercy and compassion stay...and find themselves
> > > living
> > > > differently. To paraphrase Jesus, "Love God, and love
> > each
> > >
> > > > other. Everything else hinges on these two
> > commandments."
> > > So
> > > > it's about relationship, not rules. Get the first one
> > > right,
> > > > and the rest will follow. Get the first one wrong, and
>
> > > > nothing else will work.
> > > >
> > > > Which pretty much describes the state of radio and
> rock.
> >
> > > The
> > > > pioneers and innovators in those two fields took
> chances
> >
> > > > (which churches are also supposed to do). The broke
> > > > boundaries and went with their hearts. They combined
> > > genres
> > > > and artforms. That's as hard to do in a church as it
> is
> > in
> > >
> > > > an industry that has "preferred vendors" from whom you
>
> > > must
> > > > buy your TV spots or t-shirts. Life gets sucked out of
>
> > the
> > >
> > > > equation because rules are paramount - and easier for
> > > those
> > > > who make them. Jesus said that he is all anyone needs.
>
> > > Rules
> > > > say "that's fine, but here's everything else we think
> > you
> > > > should do so we'll know whether you measure up".
> Reason
> > > says
> > > > there's a tornado coming down main street, and people
> > > could
> > > > get killed. Rules say "we play ten in a row, and don't
>
> > > break
> > > > format even for a tornado warning no matter what
> unless
> > > you
> > > > want to get fired" (which actually happened here in
> DFW
> > > > several years ago, for those new to the area).
> > > >
> > > > This happens because those who make the rules forget
> > what
> > > > the point is in the first place.
> > > >
> > > > While I might not agree with what you appreciate as
> good
> >
> > > > music, good formatics, or good liturgy, I must
> > appreciate
> > > > you. Rules negate that. They may be very good rules,
> but
> >
> > > > eventually human nature will rely on quantification
> > > through
> > > > rules rather than empathetic relationship - which is
> > > > necessary to a healthy church, radio station, piece of
>
> > > > music, or heart. Once we apprehend that idea, things
> > > change.
> > > > Churches stop running hurting people off. Radio gets
> > > > creative and vibrant again. Music reaches people, by
> > > > speaking to and for them. Whether something is
> > > commercially
> > > > viable or profitable is no longer an imperative. What
> > > > matters is whether it creates relationship. Forget the
>
> > > > dogma, the preacher, the sign outside, the format, the
>
> > > > genre, or the "rules". Does what we do offer cool
> water
> > to
> > >
> > > > the thirsty? Oddly, doing that also works out very
> well
> > > for
> > > > the person with the canteen. Maybe not always in the
> > > > short-term. In fact, that kind of thinking can get a
> > > person
> > > > crucified. But would you rather have things go wrong
> in
> > > the
> > > > presence of honor, or right in its absence?
> > > >
> > > > The Gospel survives in spite of its flawed disciples
> and
> >
> > > our
> > > > doctrines for precisely the same reason Magdalene went
>
> > to
> > > a
> > > > grave in the dark. Radio at its best will survive
> > because
> > > > somewhere out there, there are still one or two folks
> > who
> > > > make Richard Dreyfuss wanna drive out to the station
> to
> > > meet
> > > > Wolfman in the middle of the night. Music will survive
>
> > > > because some 14-year-old kid out there still dreams of
>
> > > doing
> > > > things no one has ever done with an E-slide, and not
> > > whether
> > > > his work will "sell". Watching such foolishness
> confound
> >
> > > > worldy wisdom is part of what makes life so much
> > fun...at
> > > > least for me. It drives the rule-makers nuts.
> > > >
> > > > One other, less lengthy note: Personally, I don't
> think
> > > God
> > > > sees red and blue states. I think he sees us in a
> fallen
> >
> > > > state, and it grieved him enough to do something about
>
> > it.
> > >
> > > > Thankfully when these former things ultimately pass
> > away,
> > > > our politics, idols, opinions, high-places, sanctimony
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > self-satisfaction will also go in the trash. Heaven is
>
> > not
> > > a
> > > > Norman Rockwell painting, only with no taxes or
> > liberals.
> > > > It's where the things that break hearts and divide
> > people
> > > > are not.
> > > >
> > > > I would also add that whenever American Christians
> > > encounter
> > > > what they believe to be persecution, we ought to
> reflect
> >
> > > on
> > > > what our friends in other countries and times have had
>
> > to
> > > > endure. The fact is that persecution has always spread
>
> > the
> > >
> > > > Gospel, which never would have left the Jerusalem city
>
> > > > limits had its earliest adherents not been permitted
> to
> > > feel
> > > > very, um...uncomfortable. In any event, Believers are
> > > > commanded to give thanks in all things. Especially
> those
> >
> > > > things that give a chance to show the world that we
> > handle
> > >
> > > > things differently.
> > > >
> > > > If Jesus wouldn't give that ol' pervert Herod an
> earful,
> >
> > > > maybe we shouldn't be so quick to squeal.
> > > >
> > > > What fun.
> > > >
> > > > Jody
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > I read this board a lot and never post, but I
> have
> >
> > > > > noticed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > that we all keep complaining on how there are
> not
> > > any
> > > > > good
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > rock stations in DFW since the Eagle left.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > May I remind you that we have an independent
> radio
> >
> > > > > station
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > here in Dallas. KVRK, 89.7 Power FM. Yes it is
>
> > > > > Christian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rock, but its better than the stuff thats played
>
> > on
> > > > > > > corporate radio, that we always complain about.
>
> > > > Having
> > > > > > > worked as a vollenteer at Power FM,and being on
>
> > > their
> > > >
> > > > > > > street team, I know that they REALLY DO CARE
> about
> >
> > > > their
> > > > >
> > > > > > > listeners, and will even play a song request
> when
> > > you
> > > > > call
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > in and request it unlike the other stations.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Power FM is a rimshot station and their coverage
>
> > > area
> > > > is
> > > > >
> > > > > > > similar to that of the old EDGE when it was at
> > 94.5.
> > >
> > > > > THIS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > STATION IS NOT THE SAME AS KLTY. Power FM plays
>
> > > some
> > > > > > great
> > > > > > > Christian alternative, rock, and even metal.
> Try
> > it
> > >
> > > > > > out!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No offence mate, but until I hear some good,
> secular
> >
> > > > Indie
> > > > >
> > > > > > or AAA stuff, I'm not interested. Thank goodness
> for
> >
> > > > > SIRIUS.
> > > > > > I don't even bother with AM/FM anymore!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whatever happened to KTCU putting a translator in
> > > > Dallas?
> > > > > I
> > > > > > swore I read that was happening somewhere... The
> > > Choice
> > > > > used
> > > > > > to play some quality Indie stuff.
> > > > > >
> > > > > I would love for Power FM to upgrade their signal,
> > > nobody
> > > > > here in Dallas plays Bleach, Pillar etc.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

 

[dean1]

Re: Oops...

> I get accused of doing that alot, Bat. Justifiably. But...
>
> I didn't "just" discover religion. I grew up with, and it
> never did anything for me. What happened was that I
> discovered my own futility. No one gets treatment until they
> realize they have cancer. I had cancer of the soul. Still in
> treatment, and the damn stuff keeps wanting to come back.
> Thankfully, I know a very good doctor.
>
> Since you put it out there, Jesus was into food, wine, arts
> & crafts, history, philosophy, politics, the law, fishing,
> and current events. Sounds like a natural for radio to me. I
> suspect he would have listened to Russ Martin.
>
> No...we don't call them "oldies" any more. Not much chance
> of attracting a younger cume doing that.
>
> Footnotes are too much trouble. Those who care either know
> where to look or will grab a concordance. Those who don't
> care couldn't care less.
>
> As for Revelation, most say it was either written to the 1st
> Century church in code in order to confuse the Roman
> authority, or it's a roadmap of things to come. My personal
> view is that it's both. Like just about everything else in
> the Bible, its author and message exist outside of
> time...and therefore have application on multiple levels and
> in multiple dimensions.
>
> Which is why I thought it might be fun to take the three
> different subjects that started in this thread and put them
> side by side. Not preaching. Just looking for a common
> solution to multiple problems.
>
> Jody
>
> > Thinking you are reading way too much into this, which is
> > perfectly normal for someone who says he has just
> discovered
> > religion, Christ, God", etc.
> >
> > But to each his own.
> >
> > Not sure Christ was into radio ... especially today .
> >
> > Maybe He loves oldies though. Oops, you don't call them
> > that anymore, do you? .
> >
> > And thanks for skipping the footnotes
> >
> > Next assignment: Interpret Revelation.
> >
> > Yep, Revelation ... (no s on the end by the way).
> >
> >
> >
> > > Just sound thinking, which didn't originate with me by
> any
> >
> > > means. Simply a matter of serving the customer - a
> premise
> >
> > > which crosses all philosophical and professional lines.
> > It's
> > > the parallels I find fascinating, since the concept
> > appears
> > > to work no matter the arena.
> > >
> > > Besides...had it been Theology 101, I would have
> footnoted
> >
> > > the texts
> > >
> > > > Geez whiz, JD the DJ ...
> > > >
> > > > This a RADIO board ... not Theology 101 by Marconi's
> > > > disciples.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > This is the kind of thread I usually only get at the
>
> > > > dinner
> > > > > table.
> > > > >
> > > > > Coupla things:
> > > > >
> > > > > Not all the Pharisees were hypocrites. Nicodemus and
>
> > > > Joseph
> > > > > of Arimithea come quickly to mind. Paul called
> himself
> > a
> > >
> > > > > "Pharisee of Pharisees", and although he was
> > wrongheaded
> > >
> > > > > prior to his conversion, he was far from two-faced.
> In
> >
> > > > fact,
> > > > > Jesus himself said that if one wanted to measure his
>
> > or
> > > > her
> > > > > goodness by the ability to abide rules, then that
> > person
> > >
> > > > had
> > > > > better be better at following rules than the
> Pharisees
> >
> > > > > themselves - who came up with 39 different
> definitions
> >
> > > of
> > > > > "work" based on just one verse from Exodus. Today,
> > these
> > >
> > > > > people would work in HR.
> > > > >
> > > > > All but one of the main male disciples were
> > hypocrites,
> > > or
> > > >
> > > > > worse...and John didn't demonstrate much spine until
>
> > > > showing
> > > > > up at the cross when every other male disciple ran
> for
> >
> > > > their
> > > > > lives. Matthew was a Roman collaborator. Simon
> > Zealotus
> > > > was
> > > > > likely an assassin. James and John were ambitious
> > > > hotheads.
> > > > > Peter had trouble with moral consistency almost till
>
> > the
> > >
> > > > day
> > > > > he died. Even Jesus' own brothers didn't believe in
> > him
> > > > > until after Christ's resurrection, and then
> apparently
> >
> > > > only
> > > > > two of them. Putting it bluntly, they were all a
> mess.
> >
> > > > > Today, these people would be program directors and
> > > > > consultants.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stay with me.
> > > > >
> > > > > The only individual who had the guts (or
> foolishness)
> > to
> > >
> > > > > actually go first to the cemetery in person was
> > > Magdalene,
> > > >
> > > > > whom John says went alone and in the dark. It wasn't
>
> > > about
> > > >
> > > > > research or surveys. It was about something much
> > deeper.
> > >
> > > > > Today, Magdalene would be...alone. Just like then.
> But
> >
> > > > guess
> > > > > who the Bible says Jesus appeared to first?
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's the point - whether we're talking about rock,
>
> > > > radio,
> > > > > or religion...the same concepts apply. It ain't
> about
> > > > rules.
> > > > > Never has been. If it was, Paul would have called
> the
> > > > > idolatrous Athenians idiots and the Christians at
> > > Galatia
> > > > > religious...instead of the other way around. Rules
> get
> >
> > > > > people killed, or at least make them feel
> discouraged
> > or
> > >
> > > > > hopeless...which is pretty much the same thing as
> > dead.
> > > > > Folks who walk into a church and encounter rules
> they
> > > can
> > > > > never live up to walk away. Folks who walk into a
> > church
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > > find mercy and compassion stay...and find themselves
>
> > > > living
> > > > > differently. To paraphrase Jesus, "Love God, and
> love
> > > each
> > > >
> > > > > other. Everything else hinges on these two
> > > commandments."
> > > > So
> > > > > it's about relationship, not rules. Get the first
> one
> > > > right,
> > > > > and the rest will follow. Get the first one wrong,
> and
> >
> > > > > nothing else will work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which pretty much describes the state of radio and
> > rock.
> > >
> > > > The
> > > > > pioneers and innovators in those two fields took
> > chances
> > >
> > > > > (which churches are also supposed to do). The broke
> > > > > boundaries and went with their hearts. They combined
>
> > > > genres
> > > > > and artforms. That's as hard to do in a church as it
>
> > is
> > > in
> > > >
> > > > > an industry that has "preferred vendors" from whom
> you
> >
> > > > must
> > > > > buy your TV spots or t-shirts. Life gets sucked out
> of
> >
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > equation because rules are paramount - and easier
> for
> > > > those
> > > > > who make them. Jesus said that he is all anyone
> needs.
> >
> > > > Rules
> > > > > say "that's fine, but here's everything else we
> think
> > > you
> > > > > should do so we'll know whether you measure up".
> > Reason
> > > > says
> > > > > there's a tornado coming down main street, and
> people
> > > > could
> > > > > get killed. Rules say "we play ten in a row, and
> don't
> >
> > > > break
> > > > > format even for a tornado warning no matter what
> > unless
> > > > you
> > > > > want to get fired" (which actually happened here in
> > DFW
> > > > > several years ago, for those new to the area).
> > > > >
> > > > > This happens because those who make the rules forget
>
> > > what
> > > > > the point is in the first place.
> > > > >
> > > > > While I might not agree with what you appreciate as
> > good
> > >
> > > > > music, good formatics, or good liturgy, I must
> > > appreciate
> > > > > you. Rules negate that. They may be very good rules,
>
> > but
> > >
> > > > > eventually human nature will rely on quantification
> > > > through
> > > > > rules rather than empathetic relationship - which is
>
> > > > > necessary to a healthy church, radio station, piece
> of
> >
> > > > > music, or heart. Once we apprehend that idea, things
>
> > > > change.
> > > > > Churches stop running hurting people off. Radio gets
>
> > > > > creative and vibrant again. Music reaches people, by
>
> > > > > speaking to and for them. Whether something is
> > > > commercially
> > > > > viable or profitable is no longer an imperative.
> What
> > > > > matters is whether it creates relationship. Forget
> the
> >
> > > > > dogma, the preacher, the sign outside, the format,
> the
> >
> > > > > genre, or the "rules". Does what we do offer cool
> > water
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > the thirsty? Oddly, doing that also works out very
> > well
> > > > for
> > > > > the person with the canteen. Maybe not always in the
>
> > > > > short-term. In fact, that kind of thinking can get a
>
> > > > person
> > > > > crucified. But would you rather have things go wrong
>
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > presence of honor, or right in its absence?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Gospel survives in spite of its flawed disciples
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > our
> > > > > doctrines for precisely the same reason Magdalene
> went
> >
> > > to
> > > > a
> > > > > grave in the dark. Radio at its best will survive
> > > because
> > > > > somewhere out there, there are still one or two
> folks
> > > who
> > > > > make Richard Dreyfuss wanna drive out to the station
>
> > to
> > > > meet
> > > > > Wolfman in the middle of the night. Music will
> survive
> >
> > > > > because some 14-year-old kid out there still dreams
> of
> >
> > > > doing
> > > > > things no one has ever done with an E-slide, and not
>
> > > > whether
> > > > > his work will "sell". Watching such foolishness
> > confound
> > >
> > > > > worldy wisdom is part of what makes life so much
> > > fun...at
> > > > > least for me. It drives the rule-makers nuts.
> > > > >
> > > > > One other, less lengthy note: Personally, I don't
> > think
> > > > God
> > > > > sees red and blue states. I think he sees us in a
> > fallen
> > >
> > > > > state, and it grieved him enough to do something
> about
> >
> > > it.
> > > >
> > > > > Thankfully when these former things ultimately pass
> > > away,
> > > > > our politics, idols, opinions, high-places,
> sanctimony
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > self-satisfaction will also go in the trash. Heaven
> is
> >
> > > not
> > > > a
> > > > > Norman Rockwell painting, only with no taxes or
> > > liberals.
> > > > > It's where the things that break hearts and divide
> > > people
> > > > > are not.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would also add that whenever American Christians
> > > > encounter
> > > > > what they believe to be persecution, we ought to
> > reflect
> > >
> > > > on
> > > > > what our friends in other countries and times have
> had
> >
> > > to
> > > > > endure. The fact is that persecution has always
> spread
> >
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > Gospel, which never would have left the Jerusalem
> city
> >
> > > > > limits had its earliest adherents not been permitted
>
> > to
> > > > feel
> > > > > very, um...uncomfortable. In any event, Believers
> are
> > > > > commanded to give thanks in all things. Especially
> > those
> > >
> > > > > things that give a chance to show the world that we
> > > handle
> > > >
> > > > > things differently.
> > > > >
> > > > > If Jesus wouldn't give that ol' pervert Herod an
> > earful,
> > >
> > > > > maybe we shouldn't be so quick to squeal.
> > > > >
> > > > > What fun.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jody
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > I read this board a lot and never post, but I
> > have
> > >
> > > > > > noticed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > that we all keep complaining on how there are
> > not
> > > > any
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > rock stations in DFW since the Eagle left.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > May I remind you that we have an independent
> > radio
> > >
> > > > > > station
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > here in Dallas. KVRK, 89.7 Power FM. Yes it
> is
> >
> > > > > > Christian
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rock, but its better than the stuff thats
> played
> >
> > > on
> > > > > > > > corporate radio, that we always complain
> about.
> >
> > > > > Having
> > > > > > > > worked as a vollenteer at Power FM,and being
> on
> >
> > > > their
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > street team, I know that they REALLY DO CARE
> > about
> > >
> > > > > their
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > listeners, and will even play a song request
> > when
> > > > you
> > > > > > call
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > in and request it unlike the other stations.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Power FM is a rimshot station and their
> coverage
> >
> > > > area
> > > > > is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > similar to that of the old EDGE when it was at
>
> > > 94.5.
> > > >
> > > > > > THIS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > STATION IS NOT THE SAME AS KLTY. Power FM
> plays
> >
> > > > some
> > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > Christian alternative, rock, and even metal.
> > Try
> > > it
> > > >
> > > > > > > out!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No offence mate, but until I hear some good,
> > secular
> > >
> > > > > Indie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > or AAA stuff, I'm not interested. Thank goodness
>
> > for
> > >
> > > > > > SIRIUS.
> > > > > > > I don't even bother with AM/FM anymore!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Whatever happened to KTCU putting a translator
I forgot. He was also into laughter, his buddies, parties, and dancing. And music...so maybe he wouldn't have listened to Russ all the time.

> in
> > > > > Dallas?
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > swore I read that was happening somewhere... The
>
> > > > Choice
> > > > > > used
> > > > > > > to play some quality Indie stuff.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I would love for Power FM to upgrade their signal,
>
> > > > nobody
> > > > > > here in Dallas plays Bleach, Pillar etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>