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Indiana Stations And Community Of License

Looks to me like they're going to solve this problem by creating more non-commercial FMs.
 
All these new noncommercial stations will change educational radio listening.
No longer will you be able to drive 465 listening to those high school stations.
Once you are outside the primary service area, something else will come in.

It will be this way all over the state. Listening to that NPR station 60 miles
or even 45 out may be tough.
 
Does this mean that the Marty Hensley's and the EMF's will dominate (on a scale of Clear Channel), or will this be truly a "local" station??
 
It would be nice if many, if not all, of these new LPFMs end up with "new" broadcasters instead of becoming religious repeaters. Or even repeaters for commercial stations like what WSHW is doing.
 
It wouldn't be hard to argue that even the EMF stations serve some local unmet need.
I've heard stations BS before about how they do something no one else can.
Look at commercial stations who sell using Arbitron based on some niche audience.

BTW: The details are not yet on the localism page ( http://www.fcc.gov/localism/ ), but there individual statements and other releases are currently on the FCC homepage ( http://www.fcc.gov/ ).
 
I would hope that the FCC quits handing out main studio waivers like candy.

If the new non-coms were genuinely required to have a main studio presence in their city of license, this alone would go some way toward a goal of "localism."
 
Main Studio Waivers have been with us for many years. WENS was the first local station with an "Arizona Waiver" when it moved studios to Indy.

The FCC routinely grants waivers. No note this will change with full powers.

Shine 99 has a translator not an LPFM. The can't receive their signal at Zionsville though and don't rebroadcast. They originate new programming at Zionsville, making it "like" LPFM.
 
Flying-Dutchman said:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-279043A1.pdf

Many stations that have turned their back on their community of license. Now they
are going to have to serve them after all! Good move FCC!
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Not so fast pardn'er. There is a law of unintended consequence here that we haven't figured out. From the outside this looks good, but there is a loop hole in there somewhere so that it will not work as it appears. Give it a little time first.
 
Translator is what I meant. Sorry!

How much local/original programming on 107.5? When I'm in Zville, I listen and it sounds like the same Shine 99.
 
RDO said:
Translator is what I meant. Sorry!

How much local/original programming on 107.5? When I'm in Zville, I listen and it sounds like the same Shine 99.
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I was listening to Shine 99 the other day, and they are co-billing it as "99.7 in North Central Indiana, and 107.5 in Zionsville, Shine 99"
 
WFBQ, WRZX, and WNDE all have licenses that say Indianapolis. Guess this won't impact
Clear Channel in Indy.

However, Greenfield, Shelbyville, Noblesville, Fishers, Speedway, and Brownsburg may require
more public service.
 
ChiefEngineer said:
Main Studio Waivers have been with us for many years. WENS was the first local station with an "Arizona Waiver" when it moved studios to Indy.

The FCC routinely grants waivers. No note this will change with full powers.

Shine 99 has a translator not an LPFM. The can't receive their signal at Zionsville though and don't rebroadcast. They originate new programming at Zionsville, making it "like" LPFM.
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While I do not entirely object to the waivers, I would like broadcasters to have to make a more in-depth explanation of why such a waiver is necessary for a given station. And I don't think out-of-state broadcasters should be given a waiver merely for their own convenience.

Also, how are they getting away with "originating" so much programming on a translator for WSHW? Is there actually a backhaul of some sort (ISDN line?) from Frankfort to Zionsville? Or do they have a studio? An automation computer in a broom closet?
 
What about Lafayette? We have stations in town licensed to Delphi, Brookston, Battleground,

and Attica. These stations may now be required to form citizen's advisory boards in those towns

and start airing small town community affairs.
 
While I do not entirely object to the waivers, I would like broadcasters to have to make a more in-depth explanation of why such a waiver is necessary for a given station. And I don't think out-of-state broadcasters should be given a waiver merely for their own convenience.

Also, how are they getting away with "originating" so much programming on a translator for WSHW? Is there actually a backhaul of some sort (ISDN line?) from Frankfort to Zionsville? Or do they have a studio? An automation computer in a broom closet?
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Waivers for non com and commercial are different.

All non coms are required to have advisory boards.

Programming and originating programming: Issues are receiving the programming via over the air OTA. Any programming that airs on commerical translators is REQUIRED to be received OTA.

If the programming is not OTA it is originating programming. No studio, just ISDN. This makes it not a translator.

Many LPFM's are used as satellites of a national organization. Radio 74 International. No studios , just towers and satellites.
 
Who is this going to make happy? Only an old pirate and his mates from Philly. Of them, only Dutchman has had a taste of what it's like to be a station owner with a license.

How did the Dutchman make his millions? Selling FCC licenses that could be moved to large
cities. Guess he won't be able to do this anymore.

Shot yourself in the wallet with your BIG MOUTH! Hope the so called public good was worth it.
 
I confused about something, I thought translators were only allowed to rebroadcast the signal of the originating station, in other
words no original programming at all. I thought the rules were the same for comm and non comm broadcasters. If anyone could
clarify what the differences are between translators,boosters and LPFM'S and what they can and can not be used for I would
appreciate it. I thought I knew the differences but this thread opened some Questions in my mind. I was also wondering if the
FCC is going to allow low powered AM stations to broadcast on translators or boosters to help improve there coverage. I know
this is not an engineering board, but I saw an engineer on here so I thought I would ask.

Thanks, Greenboy
 
I have long thought radio stations should be forced to provide a certain amount of content for the community that are supposed to be serving. Now, I am normally for as limited amount of government involvement as possible when it comes to privately owned businesses, but if governments are going to protect frequencies (FCC) then they should be able to dictate that the signals provide some good for the community they are licensed in.

Communities are starving for local content. Instead they are getting sold out for guys only in it to make money. I have absolutely nothing against people making the big bucks, but to totally abuse the premise of many of these stations' existence in the first place (serving a community) is just wrong. Local sports, town meetings, breaking weather and traffic info is needed in small towns, not just big ones.
 
ChiefEngineer said:
Shine 99 has a translator not an LPFM. The can't receive their signal at Zionsville though and don't rebroadcast. They originate new programming at Zionsville, making it "like" LPFM.
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W298BB 107.5 Zionsville, IN - Licensed 4/26/07 (license filed 3/22/07)
It is a "fill-in" translator for WSHW 99.7 Frankfort, IN.

As a fill in, they can receive the signal via any terrestrial means needed (not just over the air like commercial translators that are not fill-ins). Per their construction permit (issued December 18th, 2006) they are receiving the signal "over the air".

Translators CANNOT originate (more than 30 seconds per hour), they must repeat another station.
In W298BB's case the signal could be reaching the transmitter by other means (although they really should have told the FCC that when they filed the CP MOD) but they cannot be originating programming.

Unless you are making a serious accusation such as them treating 107.5 as a separate station (more than the allowed 30 seconds a hour) or "programming the translator" by using a distant full power to provide service to the Zionsville community instead of serving the community of license.
 
LPFM is a low powered noncommercial local service.

A booster is used to rebroadcast an FM station on the other side of a mountain. A booster is on the same frequency.

A translator is a rebroadcast station. It rebroadcasts a full power, a low power, an AM daytimer, or
another translator.

AN LPAM is part 15 limited to one tenth watt into ten feet of antenna. LPAM currently can
be received for a few miles on a good radio. There is a petition before the FCC requesting
a licensed LPAM service just like LPFM. It is pending action.
 
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