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Is AMC losing Dish Network to blame for Mad Men's Emmy wipeout this year?

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johnnya2k6

Mad Men was going in to Sunday's Primetime Emmy Awards with the most nominations and their quest to become the most-honored Best Drama ever with five in a row. But it all came to an end when Showtime's Homeland stole all their thunder, leaving Mad Men empty-handed.

So, what do I think cost them Emmy #5? Probably the fact that Dish Network pulled the plug on AMC not too long ago, leading many Mad Men (and Breaking Bad) fans to look for other alternatives (DirecTV, Netflix, or back to cable) for their fix. That's pretty much my theory...and I'm a Dish customer by the way, so their loss must've been Homeland's gain.
 
johnnya2k6 said:
Mad Men was going in to Sunday's Primetime Emmy Awards with the most nominations and their quest to become the most-honored Best Drama ever with five in a row. But it all came to an end when Showtime's Homeland stole all their thunder, leaving Mad Men empty-handed.

So, what do I think cost them Emmy #5? Probably the fact that Dish Network pulled the plug on AMC not too long ago, leading many Mad Men (and Breaking Bad) fans to look for other alternatives (DirecTV, Netflix, or back to cable) for their fix. That's pretty much my theory...and I'm a Dish customer by the way, so their loss must've been Homeland's gain.
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It has nothing to do with that. Emmys are determined by members of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences who watch all of the submissions and then secretly vote on who they think the best show/best actor on the ballot. It has nothing to do with how many people actually watch the show nationwide.
 
Well, it's pretty safe to say that unless if you're The Daily Show or The Amazing Race (except for in 2010 when they lost to Top Chef) or now Modern Family, you can't win the same category forever. Oh, and Hill Street Blues and The West Wing have also won four in a row in the early '80s and early 2000's, though at one time in 1992, Northern Exposure -- a CBS show -- beat out L.A. Law and three other NBC shows for that prize!

Lost and 24 were the last network Best Drama winners in 2005 and 2006 (following The Sopranos), in the years since, it's been all cable. During The Insider's Emmy wrap-up on Monday (9/24), they touched on cable's Emmy dominance in recent years, saying that unlike network TV, the boundaries are pushed even further especially when it comes to the blend of language, sex, and violence that viewers crave.

By the way...the only cable Best Comedy winner is Sex and The City (2001); that genre has always been effective on the network side.
 
Homeland is a better show, that is squarely the blame for Mad Men getting Emmy snubbed.

It's really just that easy to figure out.
 
I have not watched "Homeland," but in my opinion, compared to previous years, "Mad Men" Season 5 was boring. With few exceptions, it was a weak and whiny character gab-fest. Instead of anticipating the next week's episode, I found myself asking when will the one now showing end. One or two bad episodes were not flukes. The series did not improve as the season progressed.
 
I love both Homeland and Mad Men, so I wouldn't say Homeland is a "better show." But remember that Mad Men has been around for years now, and has won many Emmys and other awards. So the win for Homeland was just the "new" effect - the industry wanted to reward a new and very worthy show more than they wanted to give yet another award to an old (but still worthy) show.

Note that Breaking Bad didn't win as many as usual this year, but did win for Best Supporting Actor (Aaron Paul) That show is also on AMC.
 
AMC used to be a great channel for movies, but lately, ( in the past 2 or 3 years) they have gone to h#&$ in a hand basket. Same old movies with way too many commercials.
 
I love Homeland and can't wait for this Sunday's season premiere. I remember watching the first episode last year and not really getting into it, but I'm glad I stuck with it.

I have never seen Mad Men as the subject matter never really interested me.
 
By the way, Game Of Thrones also won big...at the Creative Arts Emmys the previous weekend.

As for Mad Men? Newsweek went all out to do a special "retro" issue to help promote Season 5, which was a cheesy move IMO.
 
FRR said:
AMC used to be a great channel for movies, but lately, ( in the past 2 or 3 years) they have gone to h#&$ in a hand basket. Same old movies with way too many commercials.
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Amen to that!
AMC should change its name to America's Most Commercials. ::)
 
FRR said:
AMC used to be a great channel for movies, but lately, ( in the past 2 or 3 years) they have gone to h#&$ in a hand basket. Same old movies with way too many commercials.
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They're also one of the better basic cable channels for original TV shows, and that definitely counts for something. Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Walking Dead, Hell on Wheels, and even The Killing (which was hurt more by the writers than anything).
 
Mark_Giardina said:
FRR said:
AMC used to be a great channel for movies, but lately, ( in the past 2 or 3 years) they have gone to h#&$ in a hand basket. Same old movies with way too many commercials.
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Amen to that!
AMC should change its name to America's Most Commercials. ::)
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I thought that title went to TV Land: More Commercials...

-crainbebo
 
Using your logic, "Homeland" wouldn't stand a chance at taking home the Emmy for Outstanding Drama Series, because its viewer numbers on Showtime are rather small, and Showtime is available in about one-fifth of the households as AMC, even accounting for the lack of Dish Network viewers.

And as someone pointed out, all the submitted shows are sent to the Emmy voters who can watch them at their leisure and then vote, regardless of whether that voter even subscribes to Showtime, or has AMC on their cable system, etc.
 
I notice three months after Dish dropped the AMC networks that AMC is still throwing dirt at Dish through advertising. I wouldn't be surprised if DirecTV had some monetary interest in AMC's "switch from Dish" promotion. AMC just wants to dig an even deeper hole for themselves and make sure their channels never get carried by Dish again.
 
crainbebo said:
Mark_Giardina said:
AMC should change its name to America's Most Commercials. ::)
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I thought that title went to TV Land: More Commercials...

-crainbebo
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All Viacom networks, not just TV Land, could stake that claim.
 
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