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Is any Nashville station flipping to Christmas this year?

WHPY-FM doesn't cover Lobelville anymore since they were able to move stations in that area around to keep at least one station licensed to Lobelville (that would be WMAK).

WGSQ has already downgraded to a class C0, otherwise, WHPY should have been short spaced. It was a class C, but with C0 facilities. I doubt WGSQ will further downgrade. It was unwilling to do so in 2011, at least they didn't at first.
 
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Wonder why WGSQ downgraded to a Class "C0" in the first place? I would have to look into that application and find out the reason for the WGSQ downgrade, but it's non of my business, so I will not. I don't metal in somebody else's business, then rumors start to fly around. I stick with true fact only.

Grace Broadcasting bought and moved AM 1570 to Lobelville from Centerville because there is a FCC Rule that if a Terrestrial Station is the only licensed facility in the city of license, it can not move. What was WNKX-AM in Centerville was bought by Grace, moved to Lobelville to satisfy the FCC Rule and allow the 94.5 allocation to move. Grace Broadcasting is still the licensee of WMAK-AM 1570 in Lobelville. I looked it up real quick. Last I heard was Grace has a LMA agreement with another party that has leased the 1570 facility.

I've seen this kind of stuff go on for the past 25 years.

BTW: You do know there is a WHPY-AM in Clayton, North Carolina. That station is on 1590 and has 5,000 watts daytime, directional, two tower pattern. It also has 25 watts at night on a two tower pattern. What bugs me is that WHPY-AM has been on since 1994, and how did the FCC allow the 94.5 FM facility use the calls WHPY-FM? WHPY-AM is owned by Fellowship Baptist Church, Inc. in Clayton, NC. There must be some attorney's loop hole to allow that to happen.
 
Rebel Rouser said:
Wonder why WGSQ downgraded to a Class "C0" in the first place?

how did the FCC allow the 94.5 FM facility use the calls WHPY-FM? WHPY-AM is owned by Fellowship Baptist Church, Inc. in Clayton, NC. There must be some attorney's loop hole to allow that to happen.
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Rebel, there's nothing secretive about either action. By failing to construct its facilities to a full Class C status, WGSQ was automatically downgraded to a C0 facility. With respect to WHPY, FCC's regs allow for multiple uses of a call sign if the primary holder (usually the AM station) agrees to a secondary usage. Both rules have been in effect for at least a decade.
 
Thanks for making those 2 questions clear with an answer. I'm sure with the case of WGSQ, when this rulemaking came up, the former owner(s) or Clear Channel forgot and failed to keep their full "Class C" status for WGSQ. I can understand because when a corporate group has multiple stations in many markets, it's hard to keep up with the status with each one of them. I *think* that rulemaking was late 90s or early 2000s?

As far as call letters assignment go, I really don't keep up with the rule changes on that. So many stations change calls due to many reasons, like format change, the former owner(s) had a dark cloud hanging over the facility, etc. I'm sure it's somewhere in Part 73 of the rules, I just haven't bothered or had reason to look. Thanks for you information.
 
WGSQ was allowed to keep its full C status even though it did not meet minimum height because the FCC granted it before January 2001. However, there's several conditions that would have allowed it to be automatically downgraded, and WHPY's application would have 'triggered' it to downgrade. WGSQ elected to file an application to move the antenna to 451 meters HAAT, but for whatever reason, it was downgraded anyway.
 
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I just know many people and I told the administrator I would not mock Firepoint, but if he is wrong, then bring up the true fact. Firepoint's problem is he tries to dictate what every station in the market should be doing. Also caries on a lot misunderstandings about the truth. Apparently, he doesn't have the money to buy into a simple AM daytime only station to program it how he wants, so I ponder why he is here complaining.
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Well, Scott, I suppose we can add LIAR to the ever-growing list of charges that I have against you. I never said ANYTHING remotely resembling what you alleged that I have said here. Sorry if your station is struggling, Scott, but bashing the rest of us, and LYING about us AIN'T gonna change that.

The irony of all this is that I had actually considered QUITTING this board, specifically because of trolls like you, but then I leave for a while, and return and find that you have gotten so desperate for attention that you would dig up THREE-YEAR-OLD messages from me to attack.
 
Rebel Rouser said:
While it's on my mind, and this is what Firepoint can not understand, today's terrestrial radio is about the bottom line. Making some kind of profit by cutting the number of staff, airing programming that makes them money. Cumulus and Clear Channel are good example of it. You can have all the listeners in the world, but when it comes down to that book and numbers, that what ad agencies look at, like the Buntin Group, that handles advertising for the TN Lottery and Krogers. They don't care if a small, very small minority of the people that post on these boards like it or not, they are going to do what needs to be done to keep the business going, and the ones that report to investors on Wall Street, they better show a profit.

Just because a station is gearing it's format to females doesn't mean that a vast majority of males won't listen. Simply untrue. People like Firepoint don't understand the business model of today, if with these small "mom and pop" stations. This is all politics.
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A mention of Buntin. Dead giveaway that this is Scott, back under a new screen name.

To those of you who messaged me on it, you were right, and I was wrong. This is definitely Scott. It is not (as I originally thought) the guy from the 'boro who had an axe to grind with me over WAMB and The Game. But since Scott first bashed me over WAMB, you can see why I thought that it was the guy from the 'boro, who shall remain nameless.
 
WHPY was able to slide the signal as far East as the 94.5 signal originally licensed to Lobelville would allow. I believe it was a 50kw signal and now all WHPY is using is 12,500 watts. If WGSQ had allowed (I.E. been paid) to alter the non directional signal to allow more coverage and/power from WHPY, then WHPY could have covered a few more miles to the East of Nashville. Not a huge difference, but still a bit more. Zimmers weren't really interested in that. Additionally,upgrading 94.7 would have caused an interesting signal as it's already so high up the hills of Cookeville that the signal still powerhouses itself to many parts of Nashville with eastern exposure. Adding more Tower height would possibly have actually weaked the Cookeville proper signal and there's not much need to o so far away from Cookeville. Not sure which tower WGSQ is in these days, but there are some pretty good towers to work with in the upper Cumberland and maybe the taller HAAT would have pushed it to a tower farther east. NOT SURE I am totally accurate on these facts about WGSQ having not been near that market much since the early 80s. I think I am pretty sure on the Hippie facts, though.
 
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WHPY was able to slide the signal as far East as the 94.5 signal originally licensed to Lobelville would allow. I believe it was a 50kw signal and now all WHPY is using is 12,500 watts. .
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Yes, their licensed transmitter output is 12,500 watts. However, that 12k is being fed into a single bay antenna which equates to a negative gain (with feed line loss and 0 dB gain on the antenna) to create an actual E.R.P. of 5,100 watts at 109 meters. WHPY as licensed is a Class A. Mr. Tibbs is correct about the downgrade from a C2. Still, in real numbers, the true comparison would be 50,000 watts to 5,100 watts not 12.5 kW. As a reminder, the maximum facilities for a fully spaced Class A are 6,000 watts at 100 meters. In the case of WHPY, the lower E.R.P is compensating for the slightly higher (29.5 feet) center of radiation at 109 meters. Ostensibly, the station's 70 dBu city grade contour runs from just East of White Bluff to the Belle Meade and Forest Hills town boundaries and from Fairview to the northern most tip of the Bellevue city limits. Thus, the 70 dBu signal does encompass all of Bellevue.
 
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Well, Scott, I suppose we can add LIAR to the ever-growing list of charges that I have against you. I never said ANYTHING remotely resembling what you alleged that I have said here. Sorry if your station is struggling, Scott, but bashing the rest of us, and LYING about us AIN'T gonna change that.

The irony of all this is that I had actually considered QUITTING this board, specifically because of trolls like you, but then I leave for a while, and return and find that you have gotten so desperate for attention that you would dig up THREE-YEAR-OLD messages from me to attack.
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Mr. Firepoint

I am not a liar, and also this Buntin or Batman guy, don't know who your talking about and don't care. Now, you call me everything you want or think. You can't show any facts about anything or anybody. Call me Jim Parsons. (HA!) Funniest Comedian I've seen on TV!

Three Year Old Messages? Hun? Tell you what, I do have a email address. If you think I am who you say I am, then email me.

Finally, this will be my last post on this board. If Frankberry "who is over this message board", if you would, kindly delete this account. Firepoint, I wonder why you hide your name? Poor Baby, can't take the heat, can you?

For the rest of you who don't have issues like this man does, have a nice day, week, year, life, etc, etc. I'm now dead.
 
Christmas music on the radio can never match the memories that I have associated with old Christmas records that my parents bought me back during my childhood, most of which I still have. They are scratchy now, of course, but no problems with that. It is the memories that those records bring back for me.

The wife did indeed turn on Mix 92.9 over the weekend while I was outside channeling my inner Clark Griswald, but even she understands the memories that I have associated with all those old records. She understands where I am coming from. We will probably dig out those old records this coming weekend, and sit back and listen to a few of them. Memories!
 
Back on topic of the original thread, WSM AM flipped to Christmas during the night last night. They're playing mostly country and bluegrass artists. Thankfully they have a very wide playlist, so you're not hearing the same songs over and over. Not sure what they're going to do with the Opry, and I can't figure out whether the DJ is voice tracking or not. They don't usually do voice tracking on WSM until Christmas Eve, but I really can't tell as I haven't heard this DJ before. The one thing they did have on this morning was an obnoxious infomercial that poses as a talkshow, and they'll probably have the preachers tomorrow, which means I'll get woken up by them or that stupid infomercial at four o'clock in the morning, thrill. It's been a while since I listened to WSM.
 
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